Arcimede$ IRS Transcripts

[arcimede$]

To this degree, I agree with coach belly. I do not think Rob lied about himself. In other words, all of the speculations regarding arci and advantage video poker players, and other people, because they were presented as facts, could be considered lies. But I don't think Rob would consider himself a liar in that he very carefully avoided specifics regarding himself. Those three "mathematicians?" Never named, for example. Rob may have been counting his accountant, his son-in-law, and the neighbor kid taking eighth grade geometry, but they could all be considered "mathematicians," since the word itself does not necessarily refer to professionalism or any accreditation. Number of sessions won and amounts? Nothing ever precisely claimed. Times the martingale failed? Always avoided, but he never said it had never failed. He simply said the big wins outnumber the big losses by a lot. True, in terms of number of wins versus number of losses. But not necessarily true, in fact probably false, if net dollars total are the criteria. Rob never made it the criteria. Again, there is probably a reason for that.

Singer has given numbers for many things back on freevpfree. He even specified the nationalities of his 3 math guys. So, your comment is not valid.

[coach belly]

I never "agreed to" send in forms for 2000-2009. How many lies is this now?

"any years available" just like it says...you phony.

The following disputes your weasely reasons for not sending returns

I can confirm one thing--the returns are not automatically destroyed after 7 years. This is our government that we are talking about--returns are available for many years beyond the seven year period just due to the way our government/IRS operate. I have been able to get returns for decedent's well beyond 7 years when necessary. There is no guaranty--but what's the harm in requesting them.

Since Rob has agreed to pay the cost, where is the downside Arci?

If I were as certain that Singer is a liar as most of you are, I would do anything I could to expose him once and for all. Get the effin returns, in full, ordered from the IRS!!

[redietz]

Coach seems to have adopted the perspective that Rob should only back up his claims if someone who made no claims does what coach says. Rob seems to have an aversion to making anything after 2009 available for inspection. Why would that be?

[Spock]

But I don't think Rob would consider himself a liar in that he very carefully avoided specifics regarding himself. Those three "mathematicians?" Never named, for example.

Actually, they were:

Las Vegas Poker Players: Be Very Afraid

Near the bottom of the page:

James Hudong--Hong Kong (now China if you weren't aware).
Franz Schaeffler--Germany
Graham (can't remember right now)--UAE, of Australian decent.

Number of sessions won and amounts? Nothing ever precisely claimed.

There were, such as in This podcast where he said (at 17:20)

This year I had a very unusually lucky year, I hit four royals, I played 25 hours total, and I won directly from the machines 192,000 dollars.

Most of the later posts he made in the "big wins" section of this forum also state the approximate time he played and what his profit was.

There are scores of things he stated out there, but because he wrote more on forums than Tolstoy wrote in "War and Peace" it's easy to forget them.

[james40]

I think coach is possessed by the ghost of Rob Singer.

[jbjb]

Actually, they were:

Las Vegas Poker Players: Be Very Afraid

Near the bottom of the page:

James Hudong--Hong Kong (now China if you weren't aware).
Franz Schaeffler--Germany
Graham (can't remember right now)--UAE, of Australian decent.

There were, such as in This podcast where he said (at 17:20)

This year I had a very unusually lucky year, I hit four royals, I played 25 hours total, and I won directly from the machines 192,000 dollars.

Most of the later posts he made in the "big wins" section of this forum also state the approximate time he played and what his profit was.

There are scores of things he stated out there, but because he wrote more on forums than Tolstoy wrote in "War and Peace" it's easy to forget them.

Absolute gold!! I laughed....a lot!!!

[james40]

This was the funniest thing I have seen today.

"There are scores of things he stated out there, but because he wrote more on forums than Tolstoy wrote in "War and Peace" it's easy to forget them."

[jbjb]

I liked all the speculation and pictures on who the three math guys were :-)

[james40]

The Three Stooges was LOL.

I liked all the speculation and pictures on who the three math guys were :-)

[coach belly]

Coach seems to have adopted the perspective that Rob should only back up his claims if someone who made no claims does what coach says.

Your are incorrect there, Oscar Madsion.

My perspective is not that Rob should not release his tax information unless arcimede$ complies with the conditions that he agreed to...rather that he will not. There's a difference.

Will Rob release the info after arcimede$ complies? I don't know, but I'm not willing to dismiss the possibility like everybody else has,
so let's find out...OK?

Round and around we go...but it's not about what I say...it's about what arci said he would do...and he hasn't done that.

Rob seems to have an aversion to making anything after 2009 available for inspection. Why would that be?

My understanding is that arcimede$' "prove it, liar" challenge covers the years 2000-2009.

So, anything after 2009 is not germane...it's a smokescreen...a red herring...the Chewbacca defense.

[james40]

""So, anything after 2009 is not germane...it's a smokescreen...a red herring...the Chewbacca defense."

Hey...get your own material.

Has Rob Singer has appointed you to represent him in this matter? If not, you are negotiating something you have absolutely nothing to do with. Or do you???

I can't believe you are beating this dead horse after the principal player has left the forum.

[redietz]

Singer has given numbers for many things back on freevpfree. He even specified the nationalities of his 3 math guys. So, your comment is not valid.

I was referencing this forum alone, but I stand corrected.

[coach belly]

I can't believe you are beating this dead horse after the principal player has left the forum.

Then you must really be confused by your own self...reading along, commenting and asking questions.

Don't you have any more cartoons to watch?

[coach belly]

Almost forgot to answer the question from the peanut gallery....

Has Rob Singer has appointed you to represent him in this matter? If not, you are negotiating something you have absolutely nothing to do with. Or do you???

Singer never asked for my help.

Actually I was called out by arcimede$ to mediate the dispute, and I'm trying to force results and closure, but the parties are being difficult, so the effort is taking many posts.

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Originally Posted by arcimede$

"Now, where is belly boy to save the day?"

[Alan Mendelson]

I'm trying to force results and closure,

There is no need. The results are known. It's time for closure.

Rob emailed me that he will not be returning. But we still have plans for dinner in February. Perhaps I can talk him into coming back.

I knew Rob would never present his tax returns for the reasons I gave earlier. I am sure that somewhere along the line he exaggerated something and he's afraid that one little wrong stitch will unravel everything. And that's too bad.

It's too bad he exaggerated something, and it's too bad he couldn't admit to a mistake. After all it might have been a minor mistake.

I never doubted his big wins. I never doubted that he could win on average $100,000 a year. I did question his "business deductions" and I am still not sure he did what he said he did and that might be one of his exaggerations.

Realistically, winning a hundred thou a year playing $10 and $25 video poker is not so impossible. In fact it's very possible with a little luck and with the disciplined approach that he used about quitting and going home, and then starting over another day.

What everyone else criticizes as a Martingale approach actually could win if you have the sufficient bankroll to move up to the bigger denominations.

And then everyone is forgetting something that's very important: Rob didn't always play with "special plays" or with a "martingale." Most of the time he played conventional strategy -- but he played it at higher levels than the rest of us.

Another thing: he made a big deal out of his special play winners and of course he would do that. If he said he was just another "conventional video poker player who won big" he would just be another "conventional video poker player who won big." He wanted to make a name for himself and so he emphasized what made him different-- the special plays and his strategy of quitting when ahead and hating the casinos.

I think that's what appealed to the Gaming Today publisher -- Rob had a different slant on gambling. He was not run of the mill.

I think if Rob came out and said most of his wins were because of conventional play and a big bankroll everyone's reaction would be a big yawn -- and that would not set him apart from Dancer and Scott and Grochowski. Hence -- the Rob Singer methodology was promoted.

This is just another example of why I've always said my friend Rob Singer is his own worst enemy. He just created problems for himself.

[arcimede$]

The following disputes your weasely reasons for not sending returns

No, it doesn't. Where do you get the idea that someone's opinion overrides what is printed on the forms?

"Copies of Forms 1040, 1040A, and 1040EZ are generally available for 7 years from filing before they are destroyed by law"

Hey, feel free to call the IRS and argue with them. I'm simply quoting what is right on form 4506.

[arcimede$]

Actually I was called out by arcimede$ to mediate the dispute, and I'm trying to force results and closure, but the parties are being difficult, so the effort is taking many posts.

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Originally Posted by arcimede$

"Now, where is belly boy to save the day?"

Looks like belly boy doesn't understand the concept of sarcasm. LOL.

[james40]

Yes, this one.

Then you must really be confused by your own self...reading along, commenting and asking questions.

Don't you have any more cartoons to watch?

[arcimede$]

Realistically, winning a hundred thou a year playing $10 and $25 video poker is not so impossible. In fact it's very possible with a little luck and with the disciplined approach that he used about quitting and going home, and then starting over another day.

From what Rob has written in the past he played very little at those denominations. In his first 250 sessions he claimed to have played the $25 denomination 3 times and lost one one of those. That limits him to 2 jackpots at $25. I think he claimed to have won 88% of the time. This would mean he lost 30 times. IIRC, he didn't play at the $10 level even that often (something around 20). Hence, most of his sessions contained play at $5 or less. Also, his win goal was only $2500.

In my simulations the few winners that showed up did hit big jackpots at high denominations. From Singer's own words that did not happen.

[james40]

Looks like belly boy doesn't understand the concept of sarcasm. LOL.

If you didn't asking him to get involved and he doesn't have permission from Singer to get involved, why is he here trying to broker anything?