Arcimede$ IRS Transcripts

[coach belly]

If you didn't asking him to get involved and he doesn't have permission from Singer to get involved, why is he here trying to broker anything?

arci called me out...he asked me to come "save the day"...the quote is above.

This challenge was evidently attempted long before I joined here.

When I first started reading the forum, arcimede$ was constantly calling Singer a liar.

I couldn't figure out why, and asked "what is the lie?"

Well that simple question set the mental patient / phony boloney arcimede$ off, and kickstarted the renewal of the challenge.

Check the Nov 2015 threads

"What is my "long term" for video poker?"

& "Did I ever show a profit?"

[james40]

Your delusions are strong bro, I'm tired of reading this mess. "Good luck in saving the day".

arci called me out...he asked me to come "save the day"...the quote is above.

This challenge was evidently attempted long before I joined here.

When I first started reading the forum, arcimede$ was constantly calling Singer a liar.

I couldn't figure out why, and asked "what is the lie?"

Well that simple question set the mental patient / phony boloney arcimede$ off, and kickstarted the renewal of the challenge.

Check the Nov 2015 threads

"What is my "long term" for video poker?"

& "Did I ever show a profit?"

[quahaug]

Proves the old adage stand up to a bully and he'll run away. Well Rob ran away with his tail between his legs. Thanks Alan for exposing him by saying you wouldn't ban him and make him see the thing through. Arci was right all along these past dozen years.

[Alan Mendelson]

Also, his win goal was only $2500.

And if he went to Vegas once a week? That covers the $100,000 per year.

[arcimede$]

And if he went to Vegas once a week? That covers the $100,000 per year.

Not quite. Remember, the losses are either $57K or $17K. It doesn't take many losses to negate those wins. While the wins aren't limited to $2500, the fact he claims a high win rate and few sessions at the highest denominations would indicate his wins would be on the low side.

Of course, you're also assuming he really did gamble as he claimed. Nothing in his past would support that assumption. The more likely interpretation is his entire persona is a lie and that covers all of his claims.

[arcimede$]

arci called me out...he asked me to come "save the day"...the quote is above.

Nonsense. If you couldn't tell I was subtlely predicting you would pop out and support Singer, then you are amazingly dense.

This challenge was evidently attempted long before I joined here.

So, why do you keep claiming to know all about said challenge if you weren't even here?

When I first started reading the forum, arcimede$ was constantly calling Singer a liar.

I couldn't figure out why, and asked "what is the lie?"

So, you admit you just showed up but felt like jumping into the middle? yeah, right.

Well that simple question set the mental patient / phony boloney arcimede$ off, and kickstarted the renewal of the challenge.

Nonsense.

Check the Nov 2015 threads

We were here long before then. We know what was going on. All you did was jump in with massive confusion and silly comments. Your confusion has yet to end. Maybe you should have just butted out.

[coach belly]

So, you admit you just showed up but felt like jumping into the middle? yeah, right.

Yeah, that's right.

I'm a card player, I never touched the machines until AC added bartop machines a few years ago.

I first heard about Rob Singer from some dingbat in AC who insisted that VP machines
could be programmed by the casino to be hot or cold at certain times of the day.

I googled him and found the special plays videos with Alan. Rob seemed lucid and pleasant enough.

A little more searching and I landed here.

I came to this forum without bias. I knew virtually nothing of Singer, Dancer, Crimm, Dietz, Witteles, Mendelson, etc.

The first thread I read was "Big Casino Wins and Jackpots"

About 10 posts into an otherwise friendly discussion, you pop in with some jerky wise crack,
soon followed by you calling him a liar, that his wins were faked, his photos were faked, lies, lies, all lies,
like some broken record.

I kept on reading, and your sniping vitriol was repeated on virtually every thread where he commented.

Finally...just this November...I pointed out that you have repeatedly called him a liar, and simply asked "what is the lie?"

Of course you immediately attacked me, calling me names, that I am a liar, that I am a Rob Singer alias, etc, etc.

Of course what Rob has written about you has been cruel and unpleasant, but from my perspective...you antagonized him, apparently you have been antagonizing him for YEARS.

And then, you antagonized me...without provocation....sooner or later you attacked everybody.

You sir are an asshole...plain and simple...but I'm sure you already knew that.

I tried to find out the truth about Singer's claims, you were in position to make that happen...AND YOU BLEW IT.

Instead I find myself here arguing with a stubborn, myopic, sick old man, some self-proclaimed math genius,
so-called Advantage Player, who's played $1 VP fulltime for years and managed to earn a whopping $1 per hour.

You are a sociopath and a joke.

[Alan Mendelson]

I first heard about Rob Singer from some dingbat in AC who insisted that VP machines
could be programmed by the casino to be hot or cold at certain times of the day.

I am not exactly sure what you heard but there is a bit of truth to this. A couple of years ago centrally controlled gaming systems were developed which would allow a casino from a central computer to alter the paybacks on individual and banks of machines and even the entire casino if they wanted to. In effect they could make machines hot or cold.

I am not sure if any casino now uses this system. There are rules for its use in Nevada.

It's possible that some casino in New Jersey uses it -- I don't know.

It's also possible that what you heard was someone discussing the new technology.

With this central computer system, for example, a casino could switch all of its Jacks or Better games from 9/6 to 9/5 during evening hours, and then back to 9/6 during the morning. Or a casino could switch the payback on slot machines from 87% to 92% during a promotional period.

The regulations for their use in Nevada include some safeguards such as a player can't be on the machine when it's changed.

[coach belly]

A couple of years ago centrally controlled gaming systems were developed which would allow a casino from a central computer to alter the paybacks on individual and banks of machines and even the entire casino if they wanted to.

Revel was rumored to have that for some slot banks, but that's not what she was talking about.

She was talking about regular old Game Kings, being hot or cold during certain times of the day, without the paytables changing, and that the casino programmed them that way.

She talked about Rob Singer and his hot and cold machine theory. Isn't that one of his claims, that the machines aren't necessarily random, and he can find hot and cold machines?

I can't recall Singer claiming that here, but I believe it's been alluded to here by his critics.

He hints of it briefly in the podcast at the link provided by Spock.

[jbjb]

The casinos do not program the machines to do anything. Shuffle a deck of cards and deal VP hands yourself all day and you'll see the same "hot/cold" phenomenon.

[Count Room]

I am not exactly sure what you heard but there is a bit of truth to this. A couple of years ago centrally controlled gaming systems were developed which would allow a casino from a central computer to alter the paybacks on individual and banks of machines and even the entire casino if they wanted to. In effect they could make machines hot or cold.

I am not sure if any casino now uses this system. There are rules for its use in Nevada.

It's possible that some casino in New Jersey uses it -- I don't know.

It's also possible that what you heard was someone discussing the new technology.

With this central computer system, for example, a casino could switch all of its Jacks or Better games from 9/6 to 9/5 during evening hours, and then back to 9/6 during the morning. Or a casino could switch the payback on slot machines from 87% to 92% during a promotional period.

The regulations for their use in Nevada include some safeguards such as a player can't be on the machine when it's changed.

Are we certain this confusion is not about the Class II & Class III slot machines (including VP machines)? Class III machines are what we are used to seeing every time we walk into most casinos. Their paybacks are at a fixed rate. The Class II machines are usually found in Indian casinos with looser regulations. Their paybacks can be altered on the fly even though they look like normal Class III machines, usually to suit casino-wide bingo style payoffs operating in the background as far as I know.

[Alan Mendelson]

No... it's called server based technology. Here are some articles about it:

http://grochowski.casinocitytimes.co...ed-slots-60104

http://www.cnet.com/news/for-casino-...in-the-cards/#!

http://www.gamingtoday.com/articles/...s#.Vo53xL1Z1PE

[slobdinger]

No... it's called server based technology. Here are some articles about it:

http://grochowski.casinocitytimes.co...ed-slots-60104

http://www.cnet.com/news/for-casino-...in-the-cards/#!

http://www.gamingtoday.com/articles/...s#.Vo53xL1Z1PE

It's against Nevada Gaming Regulations to create hot and cold streaks in machines. But it appears with this server based stuff they can change a payscale, say from 9/6 Jacks to 9/5 Jacks after a machine has been idle for 4 minutes. But the problem with this is the payscale change would be noticed by players. It would lead to a lot of complaints. It would have been all over the internet forums like Alan's, WoV, vpFREE, etc., by now if it were occuring.

[Alan Mendelson]

One of the articles said it was planned for that project that was to replace the Stardust. I heard that the casinos in City Center once considered it.

[slobdinger]

Where this would be troubling would be with reel slots and video line games--unless a law were in place that they had to change the payscale to reflect the lower payback. And even if that were a law many players would still get caught in the trap. If they were allowed to change the payback by putting in a reel or video line game with the same payscale that was programmed with less winning combinations that would be very bad for players.

[arcimede$]

No... it's called server based technology. Here are some articles about it:

http://grochowski.casinocitytimes.co...ed-slots-60104

http://www.cnet.com/news/for-casino-...in-the-cards/#!

http://www.gamingtoday.com/articles/...s#.Vo53xL1Z1PE

This is no different than before except for the speed at which the changes occur. Casinos could always change the games by going in and changing the paytables (VP) or payback (slots). Now it can be done electronically but only on idle machines.

[Alan Mendelson]

This is no different than before except for the speed at which the changes occur. Casinos could always change the games by going in and changing the paytables (VP) or payback (slots). Now it can be done electronically but only on idle machines.

Absolutely true -- this technology speeds up the process.

But it's the new "speed" for making changes that creates a problem for players. I recall the initial discussions about this technology and the examples given included:

It's Saturday morning and the tour buses are arriving -- time to increase the hold on penny slots.
It's Saturday night and there is a big fight in town -- time to lower the paytables on video poker.

What the technology allows is what I would call "opportunity pricing." By pressing a few buttons the casino can immediately change its games with the new technology while in the past it meant two-man teams going machine to machine swapping chips.

Since manpower and time are now saved, opportunity pricing can be used more often.

[Count Room]

I'm still clinging to the ledge of Singer belief by my fingernails. Let me be a Devil's Advocate by saying absence of Rob's tax info doesn't necessarily constitute evidence of absence of Rob's wins.

Yes, it seems that Rob's credibility is all but shot at this point barring some huge surprise coming soon.

If Rob was lying about all these results over the years, why would he spend all this time and mental energy doing so over a 10-15 year period making perhaps tens of thousands of forum posts spanning many different internet message boards?

I can't imagine how much sheer mental energy Rob spent (not to mention the thousands of hours spent over the years) bolstering what many people are suspecting is a lie. What sane person would pursue such a tragic waste of time and life energy?

Just....some nagging questions I had to get off my chest....

PS. I know arci might say it's due to some sort of narcissism, but that explanation feels inadequate for some reason...

[james40]

I'm still clinging to the ledge of Singer belief by my fingernails. Let me be a Devil's Advocate by saying absence of Rob's tax info doesn't necessarily constitute evidence of absence of Rob's wins.

Yes, it seems that Rob's credibility is all but shot at this point barring some huge surprise coming soon.

If Rob was lying about all these results over the years, why would he spend all this time and mental energy doing so over a 10-15 year period making perhaps tens of thousands of forum posts spanning many different internet message boards?

I can't imagine how much sheer mental energy Rob spent (not to mention the thousands of hours spent over the years) bolstering what many people are suspecting is a lie. What sane person would pursue such a tragic waste of time and life energy?

Just....some nagging questions I had to get off my chest....

PS. I know arci might say it's due to some sort of narcissism, but that explanation feels inadequate for some reason...

Narcissistic Personality Disorder

Narcissistic personality disorder is a destructive preoccupation with one’s own personal adequacy, power and prestige. People with this disorder crave for admiration, have an unreasonably strong sense of entitlement and are often preoccupied with unrealistic fantasies of success, beauty and ideal love. Unlike malignant narcissism, narcissistic personality disorder is defined as a mental illness in DSM-V (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, the Fifth Edition).

[redietz]

First of all, whether Rob won or lost is, to me, irrelevant in many ways. What's relevant is his assigning a reason to why he won or lost that doesn't really make sense. His holding up his personal success as evidence of his "strategies" being superior to plain advantage play is like a lottery winner deciding he/she won due to some reason and then touting that reason.

I actually thought Rob had won what he claimed in the years he claimed, but I'm now getting the sense that he may not have or, alternatively, he may have won it, then lost it in the years following, which would explain his reticence to share recent tax returns.

There's no disgrace in losing, unless Rob's harping about stepping up in denomination after wins was, as some have speculated, projection referencing himself. Even then at least he's giving out a valuable piece of advice. It is pretty convoluted, when you think about it, for someone to teach that stepping up in denomination after losing is a good thing and stepping up after winning is a bad thing. That kind of schizophrenic strategy is a tough sell if logic and math mean anything.

All of this "step up in denomination/quit when ahead" stuff was just illogical, non-mathematical bad advice. His "hate the casinos/do what they don't want" advice, however, was spot on, I think.