Big Casino Wins and Jackpots

[mickeycrimm]

I will put up $10,000 to your $100. Challenge to take place in Butte, Montana. I will sit there and watch you lose $10,000 to the game. Terms non negotiable. Take it or leave it.

Nothing in these terms has changed, belly. Take it or leave it. My terms are non negotiable because I wont allow you to Rob Singer my ass with changing terms and conditions.

And who put up the link to Kalispell on google maps? What is the point of it?

[mickeycrimm]

Can Alan hold our money in escrow...if he agrees?

What's the name of the joint in Butte?

I think I'll need a 100 play machine to get through a million hands in anything close to a reasonable amount of time.

Is it OK to play a 100 play machine? Will each deal count as 100 hands?

And..why are you getting nasty all of the sudden?

You APs seem sure do like to resort to name-calling when you get frustrated...you act like children.

No multi-hand games in Montana. The name of the casino wont be divulged until you arrive in Butte....alone. Alan will not be holding my money. Non negotiable.

[Alan Mendelson]

In all fairness... I wouldn't expect anyone to travel to Montana without a guarantee that the winner will be able to collect. So I think the money should be placed in escrow with somebody.

Secondly, would you mind stating the exact terms of this bet, Mickey? Please state the rules, etc., exactly. Thanks.

[Rob.Singer]

It's not even funny watching mickey twitch & squirm at the thought of having somebody come tear his playhouse down. And isn't it just like a phony "AP" to start dancing with and ducking the terms of any challenge once it begins to look real, and to start foul-mouthing as it becomes apparent his only way out is thru the bottom of a bottle.

Accept it mickey, you are a loser and you're proving it more and more every single day....

[mickeycrimm]

Terms and conditions have already been stated' Alan. I'm not Rob Singer (Argentino). I don't welsh bets. Yellow Belly can take it or leave it.

[mickeycrimm]

It's not even funny watching mickey twitch & squirm at the thought of having somebody come tear his playhouse down. And isn't it just like a phony "AP" to start dancing with and ducking the terms of any challenge once it begins to look real, and to start foul-mouthing as it becomes apparent his only way out is thru the bottom of a bottle. Accept it mickey, you are a loser and you're proving it more and more every single day....

I won't be backing down from the bet, Rob. If the ignoramus wants to go through with it then he will lose $10,000 on the game well before 1,000,000 hands. His chance of winning the bet is about 0.0000000000001%. Not only that, but it's going to cost him at least $100 a day in meals and lodging while he is getting his ass kicked. LOL!!!

So bring it on, Yellow Belly.

[mickeycrimm]

Probably a stupid question, but I'm not sure I understand the purpose of the flush 50 strategy. The obvious benefit is simplicity because I can use a single strategy throughout my play. But would it be "wrong" to vary my strategy? I would use flush 25 strategy during normal mode, and flush 125 during flush attack mode.

You won't gain an advantage playing this way.

8/5 DB is a 94.19% game, the flush frequency is 91.7.
8/25 DB is a 137.77% game, the flush frequency is 42.0

When using the 25 coin flush strategy for the first three flushes the expectation is to lose 15.9833 bets (91.7 X 3 X 5.81%).
Then using the 125 coin flush strategy for the fourth flush the expectation is to win 15.8634 bets (42 X 37.77%).

By using this strategy you turn a 101.83% game into a 99.25% game.

[blackhole]

Blackhole, is ignorance bliss?

You have the nerve to make this comment. Why don't you re-read your last ten posts in this thread? It's like listening to a kid who thinks he's a tough guy. How could someone be over 60 years old and possibly still be acting like a child? Didn't you pick up any wisdom along your journey. Why don't you demonstrate some class and just stop talking. For you not to realize how much your embarrassing yourself is becoming sad and reaching the pathetic stage.

[mickeycrimm]

You have the nerve to make this comment. Why don't you re-read your last ten posts in this thread? It's like listening to a kid who thinks he's a tough guy. How could someone be over 60 years old and possibly still be acting like a child? Didn't you pick up any wisdom along your journey. Why don't you demonstrate some class and just stop talking. For you not to realize how much your embarrassing yourself is becoming sad and reaching the pathetic stage.

You were looking in the mirror when you wrote this, right?

[mickeycrimm]

Prediction: If belly is dumb enough to take the bet he will drop out of it not to many days into it. He will start to see the handwriting on the wall as his money keeps disappearing and he see's how many royals he will have to hit to get out of the hole. And of course, as the hotel and meal tabs keep adding up.

[bocce ball]

By using this strategy you turn a 101.83% game into a 99.25% game.

Thanks for the explanation.

I see the math, but it's not intuitive to me. My screw-up seems to be that when I play aggressively in flush attack mode, I minimize the number of hands played with an advantage.

In the real world, if I found the game, I would of course recognize the value of a "Motel 6," but for straight-through play I would classify the game as unplayable due to my incorrect analysis. Which would allow you to enjoy a high return without competition from me.

Similar concepts would apply to some currently available games. One possible example would be a standalone ("unlinked") progressive with a high jackpot. My total profit may be higher playing a somewhat normal strategy rather than aggressively targeting the progressive.

[coach belly]

Fat Belly has no intention of taking the bet. He's trying to play "gotcha."

I'm still willing to accept your bet as stated below...100 to 1 that I won't be ahead after one million hands on a 98% game.

No add-on nonsense conditions...we play it straight just like you wrote it from the start.

I would have no problem laying someone 100 to 1 that they won't be ahead on a 98% game after 1 million hands.

My intention is to take the original bet, but you have shown yourself to be a phony by adding conditions and restrictions that make the whole thing impractical and unrealistic...even though my chance of winning the bet is about 0.0000000000001%.

Challenge to take place in Butte, Montana. Terms non negotiable. Take it or leave it.

The name of the casino wont be divulged until you arrive in Butte....alone.

Alan will not be holding my money. Non negotiable.

No problem?...what assurance is there that you'll even show up?

99% chance coach won't go through with this in a fair manner

[mickeycrimm]

No problem?...what assurance is there that you'll even show up?

What assurance do I have that you will show up?

[mickeycrimm]

My intention is to take the original bet, but you have shown yourself to be a phony by adding conditions and restrictions that make the whole thing impractical and unrealistic...even though my chance of winning the bet is about 0.0000000000001%.

Then get your ass on up here. What? Do you think I'm going to shell out the money to go to the east coast and sit there wasting my time for days watching you blow $10,000. Get real, dude. I'm not going to your backyard. You will come to my backyard if you want the bet. I cant believe you are stupid enough to think you can beat a 98% game through 1 million hands anyway. I think all you are doing is jerking my chain. That's why I'm jerking yours. Get your ass on up here if you want the bet.

[coach belly]

What assurance do I have that you will show up?

We put the money in escrow with Alan.

Whoever doesn't show up forfeits the bet.

[coach belly]

Do you think I'm going to shell out the money to go to the east coast.

No I don't....but I'll come to Vegas for this...no problem.

You're a lot closer to Vegas than I am.

A million hands is 10000 deals on a 100-play machine.

At 500 hands per hour, that's 20 hours... so 4 hours per day for 5 days will get it done.

Seems reasonable...is my math correct?

[mickeycrimm]

No I don't....but I'll come to Vegas for this...no problem.

You're a lot closer to Vegas than I am.

A million hands is 10000 deals on a 100-play machine.

At 500 hands per hour, that's 20 hours... so 4 hours per day for 5 days will get it done.

Seems reasonable...is my math correct?

Yes, your math is correct but your reading comprehension sucks. The bet will take place in Butte, Montana. And I've never said anything about a 100 play. If you want to waste my time then I will waste yours. You will play it on a single line game. You either accept my terms or haul ass.

[quahaug]

What denom? If $800 maximum payout?

[coach belly]

You will play it on a single line game.

Yet another stipulation from the pot who calls the kettle black.

I have observed Rob's negotiations for challenges extensively in the past. His technique is to keep changing the terms and conditions until you get tired of trying to make the bet and go away.

That's your recollection about somebody else, and this what you actually just did....

Challenge to take place in Butte, Montana. Terms non negotiable. Take it or leave it.

The name of the casino wont be divulged until you arrive in Butte....alone.

Alan will not be holding my money. Non negotiable.

You will play it on a single line game. You either accept my terms or haul ass.

I'm going to hold you to what you wrote originally...before you started adding conditions that made the bet impractical.

I would have no problem laying someone 100 to 1 that they won't be ahead on a 98% game after 1 million hands.

[mickeycrimm]

What denom? If $800 maximum payout?

He will be betting $1.25 per hand. I will find a 98% game even though the royal payout will only be $800.