Alan, you see how mickey cherry-picked the minority part of the conclusion I input (1 in 11) while ignoring that I said 1 in 6 is by far the proper, majority solution to the problem based on how the question was presented. In other words, he discovered he needed to dance around the facts because he also is frustrated over not being able to turn you.

These guys are not geniuses....they're not even college graduates (and in mickey's case, he likely is not a HIGH SCHOOL graduate!). So a debate like this would never favor people who rode past the education window on bicycles with rusty chains and baseball cards clothspinned to their wheel housings.

I wouldn't be surprised if it were wizard using one of his aliases who posted the dice problem. After all, his job with the foreigners who own the site is to generate views....and if he gets fired he doesn't want to ever get into the same pickle of having to beg for money again.