BS AP's

[bocce ball]

9/5 DDB is 97.87%, or slightly higher if the straight flush is enhanced.

[mickeycrimm]

I took the photo to debunk a certain hypothesis and other false assertions that were presented as facts.

But you didn't debunk anything. I can tell by the screenshot that its an off-brand manufacturer. "Hundred Play" is trademarked by Action Gaming so this manufactuer can't use that name. They had to come up with a different name. Whether its called hundred play or hundred hand, when you hit the deal button you are dealt just one hand, not 100 hands. You choose the cards you want to hold then take one hundred DRAWS to it. The draws are correlated. They all have the same ER.

[coach belly]

But you didn't debunk anything.

Sure I did...I debunked the following

"100-play video poker" is never labeled "100-hand video poker."

It's easy enough to debunk this. If anyone finds a machine that is labeled a "100-hand" machine, that would settle it. My hypothesis is that nobody's going to find one.

[coach belly]

I can tell by the screenshot that its an off-brand manufacturer.

The manufacturer is WMS Gaming.

Are they "off-brand", or is this more AP BS?

[mickeycrimm]

I can tell by the screenshot that its an off-brand manufacturer.

The manufacturer is WMS Gaming. Are they "off-brand", or is this more AP BS?

Yes, they are not IGT and can't use the name "Hundred Play."

[coach belly]

they are not IGT and can't use the name "Hundred Play."

WMS is off brand to IGT as Nike is off brand to Adidas, and Nike is not considered "off brand".

Aren't "Hundred Hand" and "Hundred Play" the same game ?

Hundred Play requires you to select the number of hands to be played. What does that mean?

Does IGT have some exclusivity on the game of 100-hand VP, or did they call their 100-hand game "Hundred Play" to trademark that name?

[Rob.Singer]

You got it right coach, and all mickey's doing is a bad job of trying to save face. He has a hard time of it when he has to eat crow, and I can just imagine how his "AP ego" is dealing with the fact that the other "AP's" here have now seen him make a complete fool of himself yet again. Yellow boy strikes again!

Next up is redietz. I guess he'll be removing another of his famous allegations from his "PR Packet" rather quickly. Yes...."100 play vp is NEVER labeled 100 hand vp" 40 years of "gaming experience", and this is what we get? So now he'll serve up another in a long line of his corny hypothesis-laced writings.

Ditz is about right.

[mickeycrimm]

they are not IGT and can't use the name "Hundred Play."

Aren't "Hundred Hand" and "Hundred Play" the same game ? Hundred Play requires you to select the number of hands to be played. What does that mean? Does IGT have some exclusivity on the game of 100-hand VP, or did they call their 100-hand game "Hundred Play" to trademark that name?

What does the fact that when you hit the deal button you are dealt only one hand mean?

[mickeycrimm]

You got it right coach, and all mickey's doing is a bad job of trying to save face. He has a hard time of it when he has to eat crow, and I can just imagine how his "AP ego" is dealing with the fact that the other "AP's" here have now seen him make a complete fool of himself yet again. Yellow boy strikes again!

Next up is redietz. I guess he'll be removing another of his famous allegations from his "PR Packet" rather quickly. Yes...."100 play vp is NEVER labeled 100 hand vp" 40 years of "gaming experience", and this is what we get? So now he'll serve up another in a long line of his corny hypothesis-laced writings.

Ditz is about right.

Rob, you are so predictable. I've never seen one labeled "hundred hand." Has anyone else around here ever seen one except fatbelly? It's a rarity. And that's why Redietz has probably seen a lot of hundred plays but never seen a hundred hand. Easy mistake to make.

[redietz]

You got it right coach, and all mickey's doing is a bad job of trying to save face. He has a hard time of it when he has to eat crow, and I can just imagine how his "AP ego" is dealing with the fact that the other "AP's" here have now seen him make a complete fool of himself yet again. Yellow boy strikes again!

Next up is redietz. I guess he'll be removing another of his famous allegations from his "PR Packet" rather quickly. Yes...."100 play vp is NEVER labeled 100 hand vp" 40 years of "gaming experience", and this is what we get? So now he'll serve up another in a long line of his corny hypothesis-laced writings.

Ditz is about right.

There are two definitions of hypothesis. I'm not surprised Rob is unaware of them:

Google says:

1) a supposition or proposed explanation made on the basis of limited evidence as a starting point for further investigation.
2) a proposition made as a basis for reasoning, without any assumption for its truth.

Wikipedia says:

1) A hypothesis is a proposed explanation for a phenomenon.

I don't have any problem being wrong. I'm wrong quite often. And I don't have any problem admitting having been wrong. That's what hypotheses are about. In fact, when one has a hypothesis, one designs experiments or observations not to affirm the hypothesis, but to disconfirm it. That means I'm looking for 100-hand vp, not for myriad 100-play vp machines.

Let me give you an example of being wrong. Rob just said, in the post above, that I claim to have
"40 years of gaming experience." Once again, Rob has placed quotation marks around the phrase, stating direct attribution. I have never said that on this forum, and there is no such quote. I do not use that phrase.

Now let's see if Rob will admit to being wrong.

[regnis]

The way I look at it is that one dealt hand played 100 times (i.e. 100 play) is different than 100 different dealt hands (i.e. 100 different deals on a single play game).

[bocce ball]

Now let's see if Rob will admit to being wrong.

You must be new here.

[Biloxi Bill]

You guys are being too hard on Rob...he is just in a bad mood today...he has to take his wife for her monthly hair and nail appointment at PetSmart

[jbjb]

The way I look at it is that one dealt hand played 100 times (i.e. 100 play) is different than 100 different dealt hands (i.e. 100 different deals on a single play game).

IGT has two games with different names, why, I don't know. But Double Pay and Deal Draw are exactly the same.

[regnis]

The way I look at it is that one dealt hand played 100 times (i.e. 100 play) is different than 100 different dealt hands (i.e. 100 different deals on a single play game).

IGT has two games with different names, why, I don't know. But Double Pay and Deal Draw are exactly the same.

Unresponsive to my post JB-lol.

I, for no reason at all, will only play the Deal draw game. I will not play the double pay.

[jbjb]

I won't play either one.

[regnis]

I have never had a dealt Royal. I will waste $200 every time I am at the local casino that has that game chasing the $60,000 dealt royal.

Yes--the game is crap with bad tables and high variance.

I am probably ahead on the game cause I got 4 deuces dealt a few times.

[jbjb]

It would be an interesting game on 100 play/hand.

[Alan Mendelson]

When you play 100 hand or 100 play video poker you are in fact playing 100 games simultaneously.

When you hit the deal button the cards you choose on the deal automatically are held for all 100 games. When you hit the draw each individual hand gets its own replacement cards just as you would on 100 individual games.

[mickeycrimm]

When you play 100 hand or 100 play video poker you are in fact playing 100 games simultaneously.

When you hit the deal button the cards you choose on the deal automatically are held for all 100 games. When you hit the draw each individual hand gets its own replacement cards just as you would on 100 individual games.

When you are drawing to 100 different hands you might have a pair of aces in one of the hands , a KQ offsuit in one of the hands, a four flush in one of the hands, an open-ended straight draw in one of the hands, a high card in one of the hands, etc., etc., etc. But in 100 play you are drawing to the same hand.