I know all this stuff,and was into it before I even knew Rob- I didn't just jump into VP without knowledge. I even had VP help programs on my computer which would stop my play whenever I made a "mistake" on my selections. My favorite play was when I "mistakenly" held 3 to royal and had to override program- I hit the royal. I still have my favorite VP book which goes into great detail on various hands- even has a section on what to hold on progressive VP jackpots. But this is real LIVE casino play and I can recognize the difference between past play and what's going on now. I don't recall many days when I played without at least two quads. And when I sit by a player visiting from Vegas and he tells me he's been playing 12 hours and 4 6's is his first quad- that's a red light to me. To top that off, two of my former coworkers who keep asking me where I've been have hit bottom at this place-one going through a divorce. Screw that.