The Package

[Rob.Singer]

He said some things, you vehemently disagreed and you made your points. Can we just move on now.

I will sincerely try to.

So sensitive.....

[redietz]

It's very simple, Rob. I'll make it easy for you. Overnight a cashier's check to Alan for $1000. When he receives it, he announces that, then I'll hoof it over to Alan's and drop off $1000. Thereupon, I will provide photos and a video shot that day of the aforementioned person with me, with his wife, with his dogs, and with his sister, hanging in my office in his house.

If I don't provide the above, I lose. if I do, you lose.

Easy peasy.

Now I'm sure you'll want to ship that check as fast as possible so you can debunk all of the BS I've posted on this site. Please, don't do it, man. I can't afford to lose the money. I beg you, don't do it.

What a clown.

And there you go again....hoping that an obscure photo or video without identifications is some type of proof. So now MORE snail mail? You thinking of mailing it from your boyfriend's home on the west coast?

Where's his name? Let's have it red. Post SOMETHING thus time other than your bs.

Rob, if you're such a lean, mean betting machine, put up some cash, my friend. Otherwise it's not an advantage play.

Obviously, the person I'm talking about has current Facebook, LinkedIn, and various professional organization postings and links where his photo appears in every listing. There are videos of him accepting awards, and his smiling face is there in each one. He was featured in at least one Aviation Weekly profile.

So if his smiling face winds up in the same video as my smiling face, did I recruit someone off the street to have plastic surgery? And if the video takes place in his home, what, I rented his house and recruited someone to have plastic surgery? Not even you could believe that.

Rob, I never fully realized you don't really believe your own garbage, but now I do. I have a pretty narrow definition of troll, as I believe naysayers and disbelievers should have their say, but it's pretty clear you don't really believe what you're saying. You just ramble to try to get some reaction. I mean, if you had any commitment to your opining, the cashier's check to Allan would be in the mail, and the bet would be made.

But you're just clowning around in a mean-spirited, psychotic way.

In any event, I've never really viewed you as a complete clown, but that is what you are. I hate using the word "troll," but you're it. You don't believe what you write. Man, that is sad. Five thousand friggin' posts, and you don't really believe your own narrative and conclusions.

Or maybe you do. Why don't you send Alan into retirement with a bet to remember us by? Send him a check. Alan, you let me know when that check arrives, and I will hand deliver cash to your doorstep.

C'mon, Rob, Believe what you write, man. Have some integrity.

P.S. I hope all gentle readers realize Rob will never make the wager. Alan already has the name and has probably googled it. Alan already has the address and may have googled it. Rob knows the reality. He's just trying to get me to cough up a name with no money changing hands. Good luck with that, Rob.

Just a reminder that Rob could get that check in the mail today to Alan and provide a little further suspense in today's VCT proceedings. If he really wanted to make a quick 1K, he could overnight it. I'm curious as to Rob's courageous response. Surely he'll have something to say.

[Rob.Singer]

Red you look foolish. It's too similar to your silly "PR Pack", and it's apparent how you still don't get how or why you're being laughed at over your a-humma...a-humma...bbbbut tries to talk your way out of the "I mailed it from someone else's house in Calif. where I put HIS return sticker on the envelope!" or some such crap..

If this guy has a name, just post it. We can all look him up and see you two together. And I wouldn't waste my time with a $1k bet. But typical of all the things you claim, you never, ever support any of it with evidence and give a bevy of dumb excuses instead, hoping it'll all just go away and be forgotten so you can feel safe again.

That spells phony.

[redietz]

Red you look foolish. It's too similar to your silly "PR Pack", and it's apparent how you still don't get how or why you're being laughed at over your a-humma...a-humma...bbbbut tries to talk your way out of the "I mailed it from someone else's house in Calif. where I put HIS return sticker on the envelope!" or some such crap..

If this guy has a name, just post it. We can all look him up and see you two together. And I wouldn't waste my time with a $1k bet. But typical of all the things you claim, you never, ever support any of it with evidence and give a bevy of dumb excuses instead, hoping it'll all just go away and be forgotten so you can feel safe again.

That spells phony.

Hey Rob, there's about half a dozen people on this forum, including Alan, who have his name and have probably looked him up. You're just not in the loop, buddy. Everyone is appreciating the extent to which you're out on a limb, opining from your perch and making a horse's ass of yourself. Mickey wasn't kidding in his earlier post. You're making an idiot of yourself -- again. My living here has not been a secret project.

Hell, anyone, including Alan, is welcome to drop in anytime. Rob, you'll need the address, I take it.

But if you want to put a few buckaroos where your mouth is, be my guest. Make it a 5K bet, if you choose. I await your courageous decision.

[Rob.Singer]

You're such a doofus red. Why are you always writing as if you're actually speaking to another while patting him on the shoulder? Your style is so poor....

That aside, you also used too many words to deflect posting his name here. And with all your corny wordsmithing, as usual none of it gives any clarity as to why you don't or can't. And you wonder why you look like such a phony??

[Alan Mendelson]

Actually, I don't have his name. Redietz told me in advance that he was mailing it from a friend's home while traveling. That made perfect sense to me. I didn't even bother to ask Tony what the return address was because I think it's a non issue.

But in preparation for when I do get to see the envelope, I asked redietz to comment on the address because you'd all expect to see a photo of the envelope and I would take one and post it. I would however, block out most of the address including the name because it's no one's business.

Even if redietz had put his own address on the envelope I would have blocked out his address.

But now I'm curious: why didn't you put your own return address on the envelope? Is it because you are away from home for a considerable time, OR is this a second home? People do have SECOND homes. And before you react Rob, you have told us of SEVERAL homes including your place in Arizona while you lived in your RV in Nevada.

[redietz]

You're such a doofus red. Why are you always writing as if you're actually speaking to another while patting him on the shoulder? Your style is so poor....

That aside, you also used too many words to deflect posting his name here. And with all your corny wordsmithing, as usual none of it gives any clarity as to why you don't or can't. And you wonder why you look like such a phony??

Rob, you seem to be struggling for a response here. I have no interest in providing clarity to you. Why would I? Put up the cash or stay out of the loop. Makes no difference to me, except I'm going to have a helluva shopping spree at Kohl's if you do.

If you get that cashier's check to Alan today, I get $10 Kohl's cash for every $50 I spend. That's a boatload of Kohl's cash.

[Alan Mendelson]

If you get that cashier's check to Alan today, I get $10 Kohl's cash for every $50 I spend. That's a boatload of Kohl's cash.

Hold out for the Macys Cash offer. I think it's the same 20% rebate.

[regnis]

This is ridiculous. Now my retirement is being challenged? I'm 65 and a half years old. Soon I will be 66. Yes, I'm retiring. And I am moving out of Southern California.

Yes--your retirement is going to be challenged. We will need to see a copy of your social security check as well as a picture of you in your plaid bermuda shorts and white loafers.

[Alan Mendelson]

This is ridiculous. Now my retirement is being challenged? I'm 65 and a half years old. Soon I will be 66. Yes, I'm retiring. And I am moving out of Southern California.

Yes--your retirement is going to be challenged. We will need to see a copy of your social security check as well as a picture of you in your plaid bermuda shorts and white loafers.

Even better: I'm joining the Early Bird Special Club. I save an extra 20% before 4pm. I'll post a photo of my membership card.

[redietz]

Actually, I don't have his name. Redietz told me in advance that he was mailing it from a friend's home while traveling. That made perfect sense to me. I didn't even bother to ask Tony what the return address was because I think it's a non issue.

But in preparation for when I do get to see the envelope, I asked redietz to comment on the address because you'd all expect to see a photo of the envelope and I would take one and post it. I would however, block out most of the address including the name because it's no one's business.

Even if redietz had put his own address on the envelope I would have blocked out his address.

But now I'm curious: why didn't you put your own return address on the envelope? Is it because you are away from home for a considerable time, OR is this a second home? People do have SECOND homes. And before you react Rob, you have told us of SEVERAL homes including your place in Arizona while you lived in your RV in Nevada.

Well, I was going to be in Orange awhile, so what I tried to do was put my name on the label. There's a nice printer in the front office, and I have a little printer in the back office (it's a really big house), but frankly I don't know how to use either one very well. Anyway, I typed in my name and the Orange address for the label, on the nice printer, but it somehow defaulted to his name, and I figured the hell with it. I wasn't going to try to fix it because I didn't know what went wrong in the first place. If it wound up being returned due to some postal snafu, I'd be at the house anyway.

No, it's not my home. I'm just doing the Magnum PI thing.

[Alan Mendelson]

Perfectly valid explanation redietz.

Rob don't try to twist it.

[redietz]

Perfectly valid explanation redietz.

Rob don't try to twist it.

What's psychotic about Rob is (1) you asked the initial question about the label, (2) I answered it, figuring you had said you'd post a photo of the front of the mailer, so I assumed people would possibly google the name and address and figure out whose house I was staying in, so (3) I answered the question honestly. Somehow that became a whack job attack regarding the idea I couldn't possibly be hanging out with a former VP of Boeing.

I've been staying here on and off for years. If I knew it was such a far fetched claim to fame, I would have mentioned it a couple of years ago.

Rob has real mental issues. He should get help.

[Alan Mendelson]

There's no reason to provide personal information. I was sent tax returns once. Imagine the personal info I had? Still kewlj is afraid I'll blow his cover? If you only knew the secrets I've kept. Once I almost went to jail because I refused to give info in court.

[kewlJ]

Rob has real mental issues. He should get help.

This is beyond contestation.

Still kewlj is afraid I'll blow his cover?

Alan this is trolling. This is you trying to 'goat' me into more fighting. And when I respond, I will be the bad guy for being "mean" to you, as I was accused of yesterday. I was asked to just let it go and said I would. I respectfully ask the same of you.

[Biloxi Bill]

Rob has real mental issues. He should get help.

This is beyond contestation.

Still kewlj is afraid I'll blow his cover?

Alan this is trolling. This is you trying to 'goat' me into more fighting. And when I respond, I will be the bad guy for being "mean" to you, as I was accused of yesterday. I was asked to just let it go and said I would. I respectfully ask the same of you.

Good call KJ....it`s just Alan slithering around as usual

[AxelWolf]

Rob has real mental issues. He should get help.

This is beyond contestation.

Still kewlj is afraid I'll blow his cover?

Alan this is trolling. This is you trying to 'goat' me into more fighting. And when I respond, I will be the bad guy for being "mean" to you, as I was accused of yesterday. I was asked to just let it go and said I would. I respectfully ask the same of you.

The only thing Alan wants us to let go is packagegate. From what I can see he had to retire over this so he could keep the truth from comming out.

[Alan Mendelson]

What is the truth Axel?

[AxelWolf]

What is the truth Axel?

[redietz]

What is the truth Axel?

Axel, you will be happy to know I was a card carrying member of the rather short-lived Society for the Scientific Documentation of Paranormal Events about 35 years ago. I was more a Scully type. I have also attended a fair number of CSICOP and Randi Foundation events in my time.

The point is, I appreciate your reference mightily. Chris Carter actually was a featured speaker at one of the CSICOP conferences.