Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
I accept that TO SOME DEGREE kewlj can track two tables.
Well, thank you or THAT Alan. Although you have made that concession before and later gone right back to your original position. (even starting new threads)

Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
But that begs the question what degree is that and is it sufficient? Frankly that doesn't impress me more than a craps shooter saying he can control the dice to some degree.

Kewlj just what is your degree of tracking and what impact does that degree of tracking have on the return of your game? Let's cut the mustard.
I think I have covered this before, but I will try to give a short answer as I am up against time. This is a big day for me as 5 weeks after my heart surgery, I am attempting to get back into some semblance of my life's routine. Not blackjack as yet...that is still a few weeks away, but accompanying my partner to some casinos to play through some free play and give some play to qualify for future offers and of course, eat courtesy of the casinos.

As I have stated before, card counters never have all he information...not since decades ago when games were dealt to the last card. But what information they do get can provide an advantage if the count goes enough positive. The more info the better, but any info missing or cards missed, just essentially adds to the unseen cards, essentially reducing penetration.

What impact does tracking a second table have? It is huge! The ability to jump from a negative or neutral situation (count) to an advantageous situation (count), with zero downtime, essentially changes the true count frequencies dramatically.

For example, say through the normal process of card counting a single table, the player reaches a true count sufficient for his max bet 6% of the time. That is 6 rounds out of 100 played. And let's say based on stakes played and game rules/conditions, that translates to a win rate $100/hr (nice even number for example sake).

So by tracking multiple tables and jumping directly from a negative/neutral count to a favorable count, you will play more favorable or advantageous situations and less negative/neutral situations in that same 100 rounds played. So you might see on average 10 or 11 max bet situations within that same 100 rounds played. Do you see how this would effect your win rate? I mean if you could see twice as many max bet situations, and play them all, you would essentially double your win rate. Unfortunately, you can't play them all. At times, both tables might be very advantageous and you can't play both. And at times, you might successfully track a second table only to have seats fill up just as the table becomes ripe, preventing you from jumping.

So what is a reasonable degree of increased advantage? I don't know. I am not a math guy and wouldn't have a clue as to how to figure that out. While it is less than doubling your advantage because you can't take advantage of all situations, I think saying a 50%+ increase on occasions that you can successfully track a second table is reasonable. That would turn that nice even $100/hr win rate into $150/hr. That is significant. Maybe more. Maybe 60-70%. I just don't know. But it is significant.

In terms of my own person results in recent years, I have remained about the same yearly blackjack win (average) of 75-80k a year, BUT, I am now accomplishing these numbers with less rounds played (my choice). That is how this increased advantage has played out for me.

Now again, you can't utilize this technique all the time, because of crowded conditions or other reasons. (some local places that I play only have one or two blackjack tables open). But when you can...it is very worthwhile.