When AxelWolf tried to buy this forum from me we had yet another discussion about dice influence and could it be proven.
Here's my final cell phone text to Axel on the subject which I think should end the debate:
"Tell the guys on the WOV forum that dice influencing cannot be proven unless someone slides the dice. DI only tries to limit rotation. Dice sliding is the only true control and 100% influence and it's not legal. It makes no sense to demand proof because none exists."