The gurus have NOT avoided it Mickey. In the early days we had get-togethers at places like Ellis Island and we played on real tables and we kept our counts. Yes the SRRs were better than 1 in 7 but frankly a random shooter often can step up to the table and roll eight, nine or ten times before a seven out. So the SRR was no proof.

What could be proof is the actual delivery: the soft toss, the dice in parallel on axis, hitting the center of the back wall gently. And as I watched I realized not even the gurus could do that.

This is why I say I've only seen three true dice influencers.

But I also say it doesn't hurt to try.

Frankly I don't know why Axel argues with me? I'm saying what he should agree with. Is it just that he objects to even one true DI being alive? Do three true DIs make his life unbearable?

I've never seen regnis roll. Perhaps he's the fourth and Scoblete is the fifth?

With millions of people in the world who have thrown dice and with thousands who practice is it not reasonable to think someone can have the skill?

We're not all able to be professional golfers or pro bowlers or NFL quarterbacks but some people are.

For the AP community to say no one is a DI is ridiculous.