The Package Revisited

[redietz]

I noticed coach belly posted, then edited out, some response to my "Don't Bet My Plays" thread, and that got me to thinking about belly and Singer and Alan and all of the package stuff from the summer.

I just wrapped one of the all-time dominant college football regular seasons. It'll go into the books as my fourth or fifth best season in 40 years, but it was better than that because it was hard. So, as it turns out, all of the nonsense with Singer regarding who I was, or what I've done, was complete psychotic bullshit. It turned out it didn't matter if I was a "ditz," as belly likes to say, or whether I took a bus to Las Vegas (from Anaheim, mind you), or whether I ate buffets at the Gold Coast.

I was dominant. I was Sheldon Cooper handicapping football. Anybody who followed me made a small fortune.

Now that leads me to the whole "package" ordeal. Since I'm putting together similar packages to give to guys in Las Vegas in a couple of weeks, I was reminded of the whole disappointing debate. It was too much for Alan to go pick up a package, read some stuff, and verify that his friend, Rob, didn't know what the hell he was talking about. None of this affected me, but it may have affected people who had some interest in betting football. I feel badly if anyone missed a semi-historic season because Alan didn't feel like driving 40 miles or reading 40 pages. Oh well....

No anonymity here. Rob Singer, with his Gaming Today joke credentials, and belly, with his comments regarding buses and people's fathers, and whoever else, I just wanted to thank you for helping me stay focused for 100 days and making it a season to remember.

Bob Dietz

[Biloxi Bill]

Good job Red...that is pretty impressive....Maybe I`ll follow along next year and hopefully you are just as successful.....Well done

[kewlJ]

Congrats on a successful year, Redietz!

In my opinion, you should let the "package" die. You may not think so, but you more than proved your point. No one here that has an ounce of objectivity has any doubt that you are who you say you are.

And anyone lacking an ounce of objectivity, who does still doubt, can't be satisfied with anything that you do or show. There is NO proof you can provide that will satisfy them....so they play games as Alan did throughout the package deal. My advice: Don't waste any more time and effort on the trolls.

[Alan Mendelson]

I never doubted redietz. In fact my partner Tony opened the package and saw the contents and told me what was there. Redietz said he would not put the material on this forum because of copyrights. If redietz wouldn't, was I supposed to?

By the way, I retired and moved. I am no longer a resident of Southern California. Chances are I'll never be back to the office.

[jbjb]

By the way, I retired and moved. I am no longer a resident of Southern California. Chances are I'll never be back to the office.

When's the next wedding?

Seriously though, enjoy it!

[OneHitWonder]

By the way, I retired and moved. I am no longer a resident of Southern California. Chances are I'll never be back to the office.

When's the next wedding?

Seriously though, enjoy it!

Obviously, the latest move didn't do a thing. He's still here.

[regnis]

The title of this thread sounds like the title to a porno movie.

[coach belly]

Redietz said he would not put the material on this forum because of copyrights. If redietz wouldn't, was I supposed to?

This short statement is SO important to so many discussions on this site, I am just going to quote it a couple more times for good measure.

Redietz said he would not put the material on this forum because of copyrights. If redietz wouldn't, was I supposed to?

Redietz said he would not put the material on this forum because of copyrights. If redietz wouldn't, was I supposed to?

[redietz]

Redietz said he would not put the material on this forum because of copyrights. If redietz wouldn't, was I supposed to?

Redietz said he would not put the material on this forum because of copyrights. If redietz wouldn't, was I supposed to?

I imagine coach expects me to answer this question, which I've answered before multiple times. Coach, your research skills seem lacking when you prefer to make particular points.

As I said, I answered this multiple times. No, Alan was not supposed to post them. Alan knows this too. Alan, after requesting the material before not requesting the material, was expected to eyeball it and say, "Yeah, redietz is who he says he is and has done what he's said he's done, and Singer doesn't know what he's talking about." As the resident high-profile journalist, Alan's word would presumably have settled the matter.

Thanks, coach, for allowing me to point that out. Much appreciated.

[Dankyone]

I never doubted redietz. In fact my partner Tony opened the package and saw the contents and told me what was there. Redietz said he would not put the material on this forum because of copyrights. If redietz wouldn't, was I supposed to?

By the way, I retired and moved. I am no longer a resident of Southern California. Chances are I'll never be back to the office.

Alan, you are so full of shit it is almost beyond belief. Married? (oops, no). Pick up an envelope? (Oops, no). Quitting the forum? (Oops, no.). Retiring and moving to LV....

[MisterV]

He's like a craps shooting, VP playing Energizer bunny sporting a Timex watch: alan takes a licking and keeps on ticking and keeps going and going and going ...

[AxelWolf]

I noticed coach belly posted, then edited out, some response to my "Don't Bet My Plays" thread, and that got me to thinking about belly and Singer and Alan and all of the package stuff from the summer.

I just wrapped one of the all-time dominant college football regular seasons. It'll go into the books as my fourth or fifth best season in 40 years, but it was better than that because it was hard. So, as it turns out, all of the nonsense with Singer regarding who I was, or what I've done, was complete psychotic bullshit. It turned out it didn't matter if I was a "ditz," as belly likes to say, or whether I took a bus to Las Vegas (from Anaheim, mind you), or whether I ate buffets at the Gold Coast.

I was dominant. I was Sheldon Cooper handicapping football. Anybody who followed me made a small fortune.

Now that leads me to the whole "package" ordeal. Since I'm putting together similar packages to give to guys in Las Vegas in a couple of weeks, I was reminded of the whole disappointing debate. It was too much for Alan to go pick up a package, read some stuff, and verify that his friend, Rob, didn't know what the hell he was talking about. None of this affected me, but it may have affected people who had some interest in betting football. I feel badly if anyone missed a semi-historic season because Alan didn't feel like driving 40 miles or reading 40 pages. Oh well....

No anonymity here. Rob Singer, with his Gaming Today joke credentials, and belly, with his comments regarding buses and people's fathers, and whoever else, I just wanted to thank you for helping me stay focused for 100 days and making it a season to remember.

Bob Dietz

"The Package Revisited"

It kinda seems as if you were using this package ordeal just so you could tell us how well you did in sports. I have no problem with you doing that, however, I dont like how you presented it. It just seems as if you were trying to find a stealthy way to bring it up without sounding like a tout or bragger. We dont need all that, just post it straight up without all the extra clickbait BS.

Also, feel free to revisit Packagegate anytime , theres no need to add in antying else, Alan's shenanigans stand on their own.

[Alan Mendelson]

Tony told me there are articles and contests naming redietz. What else do you want me to say? Redietz can easily post anything he wants here. I just don't understand why he won't? I've already told him his copyright argument is either bogus or there are fair use options. But no. He and the others continue to try to obligate me to do his dirty work.

[coach belly]

Alan, after requesting the material before not requesting the material, was expected to eyeball it

The timeline on all this isn't clear.

Did you send the package to Alan after he requested that you not send it?

[kewlJ]

The timeline on all this isn't clear.

Did you send the package to Alan after he requested that you not send it?

No, coach. Alan requested the package on July 23, 2017. Redietz immediately sent the package which arrived at Alan's office on July 27. THEN Alan began his tap dance, delays, changing stories, "I visit the office twice a week"...."I visit the office once a week"...."I visit the office every other week"....I visit the office once a month"...."I visit the office once every quarter" (3 months)...."I don't even have keys to the office"...."I am now retired and never visit the office".

Here is a link to where I documented Alan's changing timeline.

https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...2068#post52068

[a2a3dseddie]

Redietz said he would not put the material on this forum because of copyrights. If redietz wouldn't, was I supposed to?

I imagine coach expects me to answer this question, which I've answered before multiple times. Coach, your research skills seem lacking when you prefer to make particular points.

As I said, I answered this multiple times. No, Alan was not supposed to post them. Alan knows this too. Alan, after requesting the material before not requesting the material, was expected to eyeball it and say, "Yeah, redietz is who he says he is and has done what he's said he's done, and Singer doesn't know what he's talking about." As the resident high-profile journalist, Alan's word would presumably have settled the matter.

Thanks, coach, for allowing me to point that out. Much appreciated.

redietz,

Alan has said multiple times he believes you. He has also said that he is good friends with Rob. You'll never see Alan correct Rob in this matter or tell him he's full of shit. Rob is his friend and he defends him. End of story.

[kewlJ]

He and the others continue to try to obligate me to do his dirty work.

This is complete bullshit Alan! You volunteered. That obligated you. You put your "credentials" as a objective journalist on the line to mediate this situation, to view the documentation and decide if Redietz was who he claimed. It wasn't thrust upon you....you volunteered! Redietz put his trust in you, because you told him and all of us that he could and then you failed to do what you said. You failed to keep your word. For the simple reason that you would have had to tell Singer that he was wrong in his claims and you didn't want to do that.

And in doing so, and all the bullshit, changing stories and timelines, you and you alone exposed yourself as untruthful, a man who is not to be trusted, who will not keep his word. Don't try to weasel out of it. YOU volunteered. You failed to keep your word and then spun and spun and spun different stories. And it's about time, you stop spinning and own up and apologize to redietz.

[OneHitWonder]

Why do you guys let Alan drag you through this manicured manure? What they say about not arguing with fools.

Look, if I were having all that fun making so much money in the casinos or elsewhere, I wouldn't be anywhere near here, except, maybe, to brag about it because it's not really all that satisfying.

[coach belly]

The timeline on all this isn't clear.

Did you send the package to Alan after he requested that you not send it?

No, coach. Alan requested the package on July 23, 2017. Redietz immediately sent the package

How could you know that he "immediately sent the package" ?

I think he sent the package after Alan told him not to.

Either way, let him answer the question himself.

[Alan Mendelson]

First of all this has nothing to do with Rob or my friendship with Rob. This is about the following:

My life had changes. I haven't been to the office in months and it's unlikely I will ever go back.

It's also about redietz not posting himself on this forum when he easily could.

And it's also about why after all this time redietz hasn't sent his package to someone else?

Redietz could easily post web links to anything on the web. Older print articles may in fact not be available on the web. He can photograph bylines and key paragraphs under fair use... but he won't.