Is Sports Betting AP Play?

[OneHitWonder]

Kewlj I'm not anti AP. I'm anti bullshit.

18 yo's worth. Don't all liars tell you that they don't lie?

I like the line, "I always lie." But, apparently, it doesn't carry the same force as when it's said in person. It's easier to turn around the written than the spoken, which involves also the person.

Hey, just the full 360°.

[jbjb]

What sticks in my mind is you posting you have a net loss for the last six month.

I have no idea what you are talking about? I have no net loss for the past 6 months.

My year blackjack wise is pretty close to, but just below expectation (accumulated Ev). If you want real numbers instead of Chinese numbers, my own personal BJ win is 54K vs Ev of 64k. Luckily my blackjack partner is mildly above Ev for the year, so I will benefit from that. And yes my numbers both accumulated Ev (amount of play) and win, will be a bit suppressed from my average years because of the 6 week that I lost completely (medical situation), no play, and a few weeks of lighter than usual play as I get back into things. I usually average about 80K blackjack Ev and obviously will not get there this year.

Luckily for me in what is likely to be a slightly below expectation year blackjack-wise, my non blackjack, supplemental machine play income will be above expectation, somewhere in the upper 40k range, when it is normally about 20k. That is due to one large, very lucky machine play hit that one of my machine play partners had in the spring. That will provide a welcome bump for the three of us this year.

Perhaps your confusion is that I have stated that during my now 14 year blackjack career, I have experienced 4 different 6 month losing periods. That is very possible (obviously) and common. Again, that is the variance that is blackjack card counting.

I think he was talking about the times you've had those months long stretches.

[RS__]

No kewlj what I wrote is exactly what happens with a real advantage play in video poker.

Yup, you're an expert in something you know nothing about.

[jbjb]

No kewlj what I wrote is exactly what happens with a real advantage play in video poker.

Yup, you're an expert in something you know nothing about.

Isn't that what they call a "Jack of all trades, master of none"?

[MisterV]

Isn't that what they call a "Jack of all trades, master of none"?

How about "Jack off all day, masturbate for fun?"

[mickeycrimm]

The only thing I don't understand is where you find these advantage plays with a 10% edge?

I don't understand the need to tell us you can't tell us. What do you get out of saying how big a man you are for the sole purpose of leaving it at that? All I see is a bunch of juvenile spelling and thinking errors. And pictures of casinos, which all the look the same. Do you guys eat spaghetti with mushroom sauce, or Kraft dinners? Nobody else to talk to?

Onehitwonder, when are you going to make a meaningful contribution here instead of just spouting ignorant blather.

[OneHitWonder]

Onehitwonder, when are you going to make a meaningful contribution here instead of just spouting ignorant blather.

Ultimately, that is contingent upon knowing the meaning (of life). Some of us look for meaning while the others seek out pleasure and the rest of it. Some require a pre-packaged security "blanket" like Zen, or to "prostitute" casinos, where money won feels better than money earned another way; though fun is more related to happiness (of a life well lived) than to the impulses of masturbation and casinos and the like. At the end of our lives, we have to ask ourselves such questions as yours. Did I have fun to the extent I was able? Give (contribute) as good as I got? Say my piece in peace? And leave the world a little sillier but more straightforward than when I found it? Questions that we owe it to ourselves to ask all along.

Incidentally, if there is a meaning of life, than there is a meaning of also death. And, a way to bridge the two. So that the best way back is really the best way forward. Love transcends even itself.

[AxelWolf]

Well Axel you don't mention how much play you put in to get those offers either. I'm yet to see anyone here mention how much play they put in.

We just had a forum member post about getting two monthly offers just a couple of days apart which from my understanding violates the rules of Total Rewards promotions. But maybe he had the play to get around that rule? I know I don't have that kind of play.

He also has offer dates I don't have. I guess when you're a big player you get special rules.

Frankly no one gets offers of any significant amount without previous play history. We all know that.

But what some people fail to admit is that without continued play those offers will disappear. And whatever advantage you have will disappear with it.

The bottom line here is you can quote your percentages and your EVs all you want but how much is it in dollars and cents that you take to the bank?

When I studied economics (33 hours at the Maxwell School at Syracuse University) we had a name for quoting percentages without mentioning the actual dollar amounts. We called it "Chinese Dollars" because it was gibberish that had no bottom line.

There are lies, damned lies, and statistics. I'm wondering what all of you multimillionaire APs are quoting?

I wasn't the one claiming a 163% return and that should put me in the exclusive AP club. Either way, I'm not going to publicly say how much coin they should put in and how much they will get back. Why would I want to aleart others or the casinos and kill a good thing?

You don't necessarily have to have "the Play" to get around the rules, there are other ways to get around them. Again, no one is going to tell you possible ways to achieve this. It looks to me as if he didn't even do anything special and it worked for him.

Yes, for the most part, you need some play history to get free play, but not always, there are ways you can get a fair amount of free, free play.

There are also ways to generate ongoing free play at a very low cost and low risk.

There are ways to get around everything you mentioned, if not at one place, perhaps at a different place. There may be some extra cost, you might have to jump through some hoops and even bend some rules.

You only know what you know, unfortunately for you, you think what you know is the gospel.
On a scale of 1 to 10 of AP knowledge, 1 being the lowest, I think you are at a 1. I take that back, if you add in just a fraction of the crazy shit you have said.... you are at -2. Lets quote one of your more recent absurd things you said.

Quote Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
"You can't have an advantage if there are elements out of your control. You can't." That's enough to rest our case about you and your knowledge of AP, math, and gambling forever.

[Alan Mendelson]

You're just a bullshit artist Axel.

[AxelWolf]

You're just a bullshit artist Axel.

This coming from a guy who claims he seen 18 yos in a row. Another case resting situation.

[mickeycrimm]

Well Axel you don't mention how much play you put in to get those offers either. I'm yet to see anyone here mention how much play they put in.

Alan, your memory is shot. I posted up how I ran a $20,000 wager on 9/6 Jacks at Choctaw Durant and how they sent me $300 in freeplay for October. Then I posted up when they sent me another $300 freeplay for November. Now, they have just sent me another $300 in freeplay for December. That's $900 in freeplay so far off $20,000 in action.

That's 4.5% so far and they will probably keep sending it.

[redietz]

Well Axel you don't mention how much play you put in to get those offers either. I'm yet to see anyone here mention how much play they put in.

Alan, your memory is shot. I posted up how I ran a $20,000 wager on 9/6 Jacks at Choctaw Durant and how they sent me $300 in freeplay for October. Then I posted up when they sent me another $300 freeplay for November. Now, they have just sent me another $300 in freeplay for December. That's $900 in freeplay so far off $20,000 in action.

That's 4.5% so far and they will probably keep sending it.

Man, I gotta put Choctaw Durant on my next cross-country drive list. How far south of Oklahoma City is it? I've stayed in Oklahoma City the end of Day Two sometimes going west from Johnson City. Oklahoma has a boatload of casinos. Gazillions.

[AxelWolf]

Well Axel you don't mention how much play you put in to get those offers either. I'm yet to see anyone here mention how much play they put in.

Alan, your memory is shot. I posted up how I ran a $20,000 wager on 9/6 Jacks at Choctaw Durant and how they sent me $300 in freeplay for October. Then I posted up when they sent me another $300 freeplay for November. Now, they have just sent me another $300 in freeplay for December. That's $900 in freeplay so far off $20,000 in action.

That's 4.5% so far and they will probably keep sending it.

Did you pick up the first $300?

Sometimes they will send the same offer for a while untill you start picking it up.

I didn't pick up anything however it seems as if the offer still went down.

Enjoy this exclusive offer!
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
$200 Free Play & Free Hotel Night

Offer code:xxxx Valid February 29 thru March 6, 2016.
Offer code:xxxx Valid March 7 thru March 13, 2016.
Offer code:xxxx Valid March 14 thru March 20, 2016.
Offer code: xxxxValid March 21 thru March 31, 2016.

For reservations call 888.652.4628. Blackout dates may apply.
Free Play will be available on your Choctaw Rewards Card for the valid dates listed.

Dear xxxxxxxxxx
As of Apr 7 2016 9:31AM , you have $120 in Free Play,
which will expire on 04/10/2016 11:59PM.
Don't miss out on these exclusive rewards,
see your April mailer for more details!

Dear xxxxxx,
As of Apr 14 2016 1:05PM , you have $120 in Free Play,
which will expire on 04/17/2016 11:59PM.
Don't miss out on these exclusive rewards,
see your April mailer for more details!

[Alan Mendelson]

Choctaw Durant.

Ummm. Will my girlfriend enjoy the shows there?

[mickeycrimm]

Axel, Durant has been sending me $300 in freeplay, two buffet comps and a number to call for a "discounted or comped" room every month. Winstar has sent me a phone number for a "discounted or comped" room. Riverwind sends me 2 comped nights every month. And River Spirit sends me $100 in freeplay every month. If I ever go back to Oklahoma it won't be until after the holidays.

I just got word that Durant has a new card level that gets $600 in freeplay a week.

[mickeycrimm]

Choctaw Durant. Ummm. Will my girlfriend enjoy the shows there?

Who in the hell would know what your girlfriend likes? For New Year's they got Styx. January they got Kid Rock. February they got Rod Stewart.

[jbjb]

Choctaw Durant. Ummm. Will my girlfriend enjoy the shows there?

Who in the hell would know what your girlfriend likes? For New Year's they got Styx. January they got Kid Rock. February they got Rod Stewart.

I'd rather live in Robs trailer...

[Alan Mendelson]

Mickey doesn't understand that if I told my GF we were going to hell 'n gone for free play she'd be hell 'n gone. LOL

[OneHitWonder]

Mickey doesn't understand that if I told my GF we were going to hell 'n gone for free play she'd be hell 'n gone. LOL

Well, she's getting something out of it. That's how it starts.

[Alan Mendelson]

Mickey doesn't understand that if I told my GF we were going to hell 'n gone for free play she'd be hell 'n gone. LOL

Well, she's getting something out of it. That's how it starts.

Getting something out of it? Maybe a side trip to Paris... and I don't mean the casino in Vegas.