Originally Posted by coach belly View Post

And that entire edge comes from a comeout roll of 12 ?

Is there any other outcome where one bet loses and the other does not win?



What about under these conditions...?

Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
on big point multiplier days (and/or with a high enough players' card level) the vig can be overcome.
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
Even blackjack beats craps.
But there's no "dark side" to bet in Blackjack, so you can't hedge to guarantee a small house edge that can be overcome with bounce-back, etc.

Is that correct?
the chance of rolling a 12 is 1/36 so you need player's club status or point multipliers which exceed 2.77 (1/36) percent if you choose bubble craps don't pass/pass hedging as your churning method - so the bubble craps slot machine is a better slot machine to use than many other slot machines like Cleopatra or whatever.

Correct there is no dark side BJ bet you can use. It is a non-hedge-able game.

Yes, as Alan stated, the edge in craps comes from the Bar (12) for don't pass bets otherwise craps would be an even game.