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    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    STOP.

    If so, there's nothing else to say.




    DID DAN JUST OFFER TO PROVE OR DISPROVE THE EC BJ CHEATING CLAIMS
    And keep KJ' s identity a secret?
    You seem to be under the misconception that I am going to prove something to you. Have you completely adopted Singer/Alan's position?

    Let's review my role in this. I discovered something...an action by a casino that was detrimental to me personally. Easy remedy....I stopped playing that game. And I could (maybe should) have let it go at that. But I found it somewhat disturbing beyond that and wanted to warn other players, both card counter AP's and regular unsuspecting players. To do that I had to raise these accusations and I wouldn't do that to the casino involved without first being convinced myself beyond a reasonable doubt.

    So I began recording data, several times a week for months. Almost 180 shoes worth of data. And here is the important part of the data. Almost 94% of these shoes registered a TC of either +4 or -4 somewhere during the shoe. This is a by product of 10 value card clumping. Whether that TC is negative or positive depends on just where in the shoe the high card clump is.

    So how does this 94% stack up to normal random distribution? In reference to this discussion, noted blackjack mathematician and expert Don Schlesinger stated that under normal random circumstance a player should see a TC of +4 or -4, 25% of the time for a double deck game dealt to 75% penetration. Well the El Cortez game isn't even dealt that deeply, so that 25% should probably be more like 20%, maybe even less.....and it was actually 94%! That is 5 times normal expectation!

    Now even at months of collecting this data, this is a small sample size. Definitive proof of nothing. But enough that I felt justified in making this accusation and warning other players. And enough to pursue it further, which I did. Once I satisfied myself that this was occurring, I wanted to prove to myself beyond any reasonable doubt. So I acquired the machine and model in question, at substantial effort and expense. And low and behold, the machine acquired from halfway around the world did exactly what I was saying. Making these possible but supposedly rare alterations to the machine's coding look not all that rare.

    Now I didn't go to this expense and effort to prove this to you or anyone else on these message board forums. I warned players. And suggested they take a look at El Cortez for themselves. THAT was what I feel my obligation was. You, and other players and/or members of different sites can choose to heed that warning and take a look for yourself or not. Actually, the two machines in question at EC have been taken off the floor as of 5 days ago, so you don't really have the option to take a look for yourselves.....UNTIL NEXT TIME! And sadly, there will be a next time! Casino greed and availability of the technology guarantees that.

    Now I don't know where this case is going from here. There are several issues resulting from my decision to even post about this. Like that the machines have been taken off the floor and currently the 7 day window for requesting video almost gone. The machine I acquired to prove the point is apparently not admissible in court, nor a Gaming hearing as there are "issues" with even having such equipment. AND, I am NOT interested in being the face of this complaint or challenge going forward. As an active player, I see no upside.

    So I have warned players, who can take or not take that warning. I have brought the situation to the attention of others, including the appropriate attorney, who may or may not move forward with someone else as the face of this challenge. That is all I intend to do. I don't owe you or anyone else more than that.


    I may be willing to meet with someone credible and who I trust, like Dan at some point, to demonstrate this piece of equipment's capabilities, of which I am still learning. But I would only do so if he agreed not to publicly talk about it, other than in very general terms, with no reference to me. And that time is not going to be right now. I have to let things cool down a bit.

    AND I paid for the equipment, I want to learn what I can from it first. Selfish of me? Ok, maybe.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 07-27-2018 at 09:58 PM.

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