Your use of cash back

**MaxPen** · 09-17-2018, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by RS__

Stations does the “reimbursement” freeplay thing, where after you play, it reimburses you the amount you played. If you just cash out, you’ll end up with however much cash you had in the machine.

The only place I can think of off the top of my head where you can just cash out freeplay is places like Dotty’s or gambler’s bonus. I don’t think they’re even considered to be freeplay.

Arizona Charlie's mails cash vouchers. You just take the voucher to the cage and get cash every week. Kind of stupid if you ask me, on their part. You don't even have to play. Guess they don't care if you play or not. Of course, I hate waiting in line for anything so I don't play there.

**SLaPiNFuNK** · 09-17-2018, 11:26 PM

Crazy I didn't see the replies today and I called Alan today to see that he was OK and taking care of himself. Didn't mention any of this...

Anyway... yeah I probably should not have posted that but I figured someone here would have seen him playing and save me a trip to Vegas to find him myself.

One thing I'll say to the bloke who mentioned the thing about posting the w2g and deleting it. Once an image is uploaded it can be found... spiders scan sites and download everything... you can look at history on the internet on specific dates etc...

Alan has shared a lot with me. He once agreed to give me half a royal if he hit if I would take him to rincon. He hit, paid up. I loaned it back to him that night and he repaid me when his check cleared. We had a lot of good times gambling together and playing poker tournaments together. However it has been years since we have had any kind of gambling outing.

**redietz** · 09-17-2018, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

What's the big deal if someone sees your info or not? It's not as if an identity theft would ruin you or cause havoc for your kids in college or mess up your platinum AMEX card.

There's redacted....and there's REDACTED. And there's only one reason someone like you would produce such a heavily blacked out document: because you're FAKING it. What's the mystery about where this thing was hit, and why are you so afraid of putting your real name out there?

I smell a rat. If it's real, why wouldn't you post both the jackpot pic and the tax form in the same post? Needed some time to "touch one up" perhaps?

Why don't you stop with the nonsense? Nobody continually makes crap up like you do. It's all Argentino projection.

1) A few years back, you claimed you'd have a letter and columns published in Gaming Today again. Never happened.
2) Recently, you said Gaming Today was having an ownership change and you'd be back there again. Really? Not going to happen. GT is a fun tabloid with at least one gay columnist, a couple of AP columnists, and it promotes Las Vegas. Do you really think they are going to have you as a columnist after they read what you've posted on this forum about Las Vegas, gays, Asians, and so on?
3) The G2E ridiculousness. You were going to chair a roundtable, only it turned into a meeting in a hotel room. And no mention of you in the conference literature or on the website. Yeah, of course it happened.
4) Your tax history nonsense. Zero chance it's true.
5) Your reneging on sending in your tax returns when arci did.
6) Trying to sucker people into bets on how many sessions you can win, when session wins percentage is meaningless (unless you're betting on session win percentage).
7) Claiming that you'll run an AP Challenge in the Review Journal. Yeah, that'll be fun. Still waiting on that. What's the holdup?

C'mon, man. Telepathy with the machines. Special luck. Playing non-optimal video poker on purpose, and then claiming you can outperform optimal play going forward by playing sub-optimally. This stuff is comical. I hope your kids and grandkids don't actually read your posts here.

**mickeycrimm** · 09-18-2018, 04:32 AM

In the first photo you can see the blue neon in the upper left where I have my mouse pointer. The 2nd photo is blown up 150%. You can see it says The River bar & grill. Google it and it will say it's in Choctaw Casino in Grant, Oklahoma. That's how people on twitter found where I was located.

I don't like being located. KJ knows why. You can get robbed putting up to much information about your whereabouts online. I'm now trying to be more careful with the photos I put up.

**Rob.Singer** · 09-18-2018, 06:55 AM

mickey, you're such a funny guy. You try to come across as this rough & tough internet character/gambler, yet you always seem to be afraid of your own shadow. Scared of being "robbed"? Really? In Nowhere Oklahoma?? They gonna scalp you too?

All this cloak & dagger stuff surrounding your two-bit gambling addiction....you create your own drama because, well, I guess that's about all you have in life. But don't get so riled up about these things.

And the other part....you KNEW I was gonna punk you about any w2g I forced you to post. It's part of the fun! You're making it out to be like I gut-punched you in that soft belly of yours, then popped you with a clean uppercut while catching your breath. Just look at what I do to redietz and you'll feel a little better. You turn into him and you'll be talking to yourself about me too.

**mickeycrimm** · 09-18-2018, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

mickey, you're such a funny guy. You try to come across as this rough & tough internet character/gambler, yet you always seem to be afraid of your own shadow. Scared of being "robbed"? Really? In Nowhere Oklahoma?? They gonna scalp you too?

All this cloak & dagger stuff surrounding your two-bit gambling addiction....you create your own drama because, well, I guess that's about all you have in life. But don't get so riled up about these things.

And the other part....you KNEW I was gonna punk you about any w2g I forced you to post. It's part of the fun! You're making it out to be like I gut-punched you in that soft belly of yours, then popped you with a clean uppercut while catching your breath. Just look at what I do to redietz and you'll feel a little better. You turn into him and you'll be talking to yourself about me too.

You make a moron out of yourself every time you post. It's a lot of fun laughing at you.

**Rob.Singer** · 09-18-2018, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

mickey, you're such a funny guy. You try to come across as this rough & tough internet character/gambler, yet you always seem to be afraid of your own shadow. Scared of being "robbed"? Really? In Nowhere Oklahoma?? They gonna scalp you too?

All this cloak & dagger stuff surrounding your two-bit gambling addiction....you create your own drama because, well, I guess that's about all you have in life. But don't get so riled up about these things.

And the other part....you KNEW I was gonna punk you about any w2g I forced you to post. It's part of the fun! You're making it out to be like I gut-punched you in that soft belly of yours, then popped you with a clean uppercut while catching your breath. Just look at what I do to redietz and you'll feel a little better. You turn into him and you'll be talking to yourself about me too.

You make a moron out of yourself every time you post. It's a lot of fun laughing at you.

Bingo! Another RS direct hit on the saddest individual to come down the pike since Tuna!

**mickeycrimm** · 09-19-2018, 04:00 AM

Singer is ruining another thread with a perfectly good subject to discuss. He should be banned from this thread as well. The only way Singer can be reigned in is to ban him out of the legitimate threads. He will shit on any thread he can.

**redietz** · 09-19-2018, 07:16 AM

Boz very quietly did people a favor by connecting the dots.

Coach has an interesting routine here. He has 1500 posts, almost none of which discuss his gambling or any expertise on his part. Most of his posts are about applying "gotchas" to anything APs say. Now I have a limited imagination, so I can think of just two theories why he would devote almost all of 1500 posts to this.

The first theory is that he is trying to protect forum readers from the faulty strategies and errant tales of APs so readers don't fall for the tall tales. But if this were his raison d'etre, one would think he would occasionally look askance at "Singer," with the many holes in the Singer mythology ripe for gotchas. Coach, however, doesn't really do that. And coach isn't much into research, either, unless it's a 20-second google scan, so he's hasn't exactly graced us with probability insights.

The second theory is that coach is a heavy and continual gambling loser, probably addicted, and he just doesn't want to feel as if (1) his losses were avoidable, (2) other folks are smarter than him, or (3) he's addicted to something that damages his family's resources.

I think the second theory is likely correct, but as I said, I have a limited imagination, so perhaps coach could offer further rationales for his postings here.

**redietz** · 09-19-2018, 07:50 AM

Wow, I just thought of something regarding coach. It applies to Mr. Mendelson, too. And Argentino, really. I have to thank Boz and especially arci who, in absentia, still contributes.

Mr. Mendelson has really been playing gotcha all this time, for years, also. First, back when he was playing higher stakes, he would turn up his nose at the low stakes players, who weren't "really gambling." Then we have the blurry photography gotcha attempt, and debates about 401Ks as if having 401Ks and gambling stupidly is somehow superior to not having them and gambling intelligently.

All of these are gotcha attempts. "Your way of gambling is wrong." Gotcha! "Your way of living, even if your gambling is better, is inferior." Gotcha! "Mr. V has 'two-bit' cases." Gotcha! They are all gotcha attempts.

And Argentino, trying to claim mickey's W2G is fake, or I'm not me, or "you're anonymous, so you're wrong" stuff is all gotcha-driven.

These people spend their lives trying to come up with rationales for their behaviors in casinos. They really need to try to undermine others' successes. The fact they post their gotchas in public isn't really the gist of this. They are using the gotchas in their own minds so they don't have to examine and process the fact that other people have won and have the discipline to walk away when expectations are negative.

That's why you have these obsessive voila-driven moments of Mr. Mendelson driving to a blackjack table to take blurry photos. Or coach latching onto the most trivial details to generate illogical arguments, as in Don Johnson supposedly not using his rebate opportunities much one weekend, so that undermines the entire AP angle. Or Argentino just making stuff up. A presumed AP had an academic paper published, so Argentino says he's heading a roundtable at G2E. Only it doesn't happen.

All gotchas in their own minds, to keep the hounds of reality at bay. Twisting minutia, seeking any conflict of detail, so they don't have to accept that there were other options to the paths they've chosen.

It's no surprise they are dominant posters in this forum. They are the most motivated.

**Rob.Singer** · 09-19-2018, 08:00 AM

Aside from being what has to be the internet's most corny writer, this guy just OOZES chaotic struggle within.

Any question now why she closed her eyes for the last time with a smile on her face?

**coach belly** · 09-19-2018, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by redietz

Boz very quietly did people a favor by connecting the dots.

What dots did he connect?

**kewlJ** · 09-19-2018, 09:10 AM

Luckily there is not that much real harm done by you anti-AP, anti-Mathematic angry trolls. There is nobody out side of you 4 that believes anything you clowns say, evidently including your own family members. So you find an instance where some legitimate player has misspoken or said something that you can twist around, or some kind of blurry picture that you can manipulate and you guys are in your glory, high-fiving and slapping each other on the back. You are four mental patients, that the rest of the world and gambling community just laughs at and says "what the fuck".

The only real damage you have done is to Dan Druff (Todd Whittles) reputation and credibility and any chance of this site to grow into something productive and beneficial to anyone.

**Moses** · 09-19-2018, 09:11 AM

KJ: I don't even know what these guys are talking about most of the time. But man, in the words of Richard Pryor, Mickey, Singer, and Coach Bella are funny mutha F****rs. "Computer day at the funny farm." That's classic. Mickeys "don't let your alligator mouth overload your hummingbird ass." Hil-friggin-arious. Singer has some zingers as well.

At the Zoo. "Hey Lion, have some of dis."

There is some great stuff here. It's a matter of perspective. Of course, if you're bored, we could have a count debate.

**kewlJ** · 09-19-2018, 09:21 AM

What the fuck Dan Druff? Did you just delete a post of mine criticizing the 4 anti-AP, anti-Math haters and you for enabling and protecting them?

I know I have threatened to leave numerous times, only to backtrack, because I have limited options, but I will not participate on a site where the owner is doing this shit. I have done that and been there.

No wonder you have made yourself sick Dan Druff. You are protecting known internet trolls and throwing your reputation as a legitimate player grounded in math, down the toilet.

**Moses** · 09-19-2018, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

Really? In Nowhere Oklahoma?? They gonna scalp you too?

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We've got a local character from Oklahoma. Quite often, he'll tip a few too many and be hollering "ride the hair off that horse." Anyway, as he tells the story. His Mom is a full blooded Cherokee indian and his Dad is white. She says to him "all my sons stay in valley, but you go over hill" as she points in a far off direction. It's funny the way he tells it because he is really over-the-top. 17 to 1 "thank youuuu veeeery much." Thus the nickname "17."

**Moses** · 09-19-2018, 09:35 AM