Hatred on this Forum

[Moses]

[QUOTE=Bill Yung;75610]

It's amazing how much more coherent your posts are when you don't talk about gambling. As soon as people start to talk about gambling, it's game over.

Good point. I don't gamble.

Exactly.

But nature abhors certainty as much as a vacuum. Didn't any of your teachers tell you that it's easy to study to get 50%, a little harder to get 60%, a little harder still to get 70%, and, beyond this, that you really have to buckle down, but study "forever" (and miss out on the remainder of your life) to get into the 95% range? The casinos start the AP's off in the 95% range? The self-employed "shill" range?.

The words said to me were "stay eligible." I look at it as 5% of the people will leave the casino a winner and 95% a loser. There will be many losers of large amounts and few winners with not nearly as much as the losers. In blackjack, the odds based on the game rules and casino tolerance are tilted greatly in my favor 6% of the time. This means I must survive 94%. However, because I have the tools and maximize them, I know I will win 60% of my sessions on average. But 40% will be lost. The key is I dictate the sessions. Everything I do is in my control. So, at 20 sessions per week, I make 4 more sessions of $500 than I lose. Well, you do the math from that point. But to lose $20k would take two straight weeks of session losses and no wins.

Look at it this way. On the one side are the systems players, who try to force or "buy" a win with a negative betting progression. On the other side are the AP's, who try to force or make "certain" a win with grinding out the minutia. In the middle, are the casinos and "recreational" gamblers, who play by a set of vig's, they accept the anonymous long-term results on each side of their middle, although things are unfairly unfairly tipped in the casinos' favor. The players on either side both try to force a win. The ones in the middle go with "the flow".

Yes, I see all of this in the course of my week...and worse, far worse. But it's not my circus and they are not my monkeys.

If the casinos were fair or non-profit, with their vig's set to almost nothing, who of the "flow" guys would go? You would win one night, and lose the next. And then win it back, again. There would be no plank to walk, and dangle around on. Nothing to tease on either side of the middle. This is the reason that "recreational" gambling is still a matter of addiction.

Keep the dream alive and they will come in bunches. There is no two ways about it, the casinos are designed to separate folks from their money. The quicker the better.

Does it matter how a win is forced? Aren't either group of players who do that captive of the casinos? The narrow and otherwise restricted lives of those who seek certainty in everything. Versus the ones who think that a looser lifestyle is the answer. I mean, give up all of your time or all of your space(money) to the casinos?

Balance is the key. Long term? Well, Joe WAS a good AP and finished his life in the black. Trouble is, he forgot to live his life because he spent it chasing the elusive EV.