Anti gambling, anti casinos

[DGenBen]

Ok, I’ll grant you what you’re saying is correct. What can our society, which is based on freedom, do about it? The short answer is nothing, other than make these businesses illegal. This is the ONLY way we can protect the weaker members of our society from the destructive nature of excessive drinking, smoking, fast food, gambling, etc. Anything in excess will usually lead to a person’s downfall one way or another.

The Bahamas have an interesting way of dealing with the problems of casinos. Only tourist (non-Bahamian residences) are allowed to go into a casino. It’s against the law for Bahamian citizens to gamble in a casino. This way the government can collect the revenue from casinos, without them harming its citizens.

The problem is in our country (built on freedom) there is no way to exclude a certain group of people from a casinos. In our country, you can not have a law that allows certain people in a casino and not others. This is why the only solution is to make casinos illegal, and many states and local areas have done just that. I live in a state with a lot of casinos and they have tried to come into my area but they are always voted down by the citizens. I’m proud to be one of them.

That’s why I will never blame the casinos for the byproducts (bankruptcies, crime, etc) that come with casinos. Everybody knows this will happen no matter how many safeguards a community tries to put in place. The group responsible for allowing casinos into our cummunities is our politicians, which is really us since we are self governing.

I think this is why APs struggle with their position. They are the ONLY group of people who make money off a legal business without providing any value to society. Yes, what we are doing is legal, but it’s not contributing anything to society. The argument you’ll see some make that they use the money they make to buy things which helps the economy is the same one liberals use to justify welfare. When the government gives money to people on welfare, these people also spend that money to help economic activity. If that’s all it took to help an economy, then governments should just give all its citizens money and no one would have to work. I think we can all see that won’t work, just look at Greece.

In the movie “Holly Rollers”, a documentary about church going APs, it had a side story of one member who struggled with what he was doing. It wasn’t because he thought gambling was wrong per say...it was because he saw no value in it. He saw that counting cards and winning money provided NO value to society. During the movie, he was constantly looking for verses in the Bible to try to justify his actions...and he obviously couldn’t find any. By the end of the movie, he quite the “church team” because he saw NO value in what he was doing, and he wanted his life to have value. This is the dilemma I think all APs face and one reason most of them are bitter nasty people. They are making money but their life has no value...at least, not from a work standpoint. They are kind of like welfare recipients.

I think this is also why most APs won’t acknowledge the casino’s business model...providing negative EV games for the purpose of entertainment. If they did, then they would be admiting casinos are doing nothing wrong, and that would make APs feel worse about themselves.

Just something to think about. And no, I’m not a casino employee. I’m a part time AP that has spent time thinking about what I do.

Well, if I'm a parasite....I'm a small parasite on a big parasite. Casinos strip mine the economy. I strip mine the casinos. You don't like it I don't give a fuck. You are obviously a casino employee. That makes you one of the little parasites that work for the big parasite. We had a long time poster, Mr. V, that finally quit posting. He always described himself as a recreational gambler. But he finally admitted he had a problem. He wants to quit going to casinos. He quit the forum in order to not be influenced by all the gambling talk. That's the entertainment you PARASITES provide. You make a living off of other people's misery. I love taking money from you PARASITES.

Mickey, if you’re going to call casinos parasites then you should call the IRS parasites. Both entities primary purpose is to generate revenue for governments. The IRS is the mandatory tax program, while casinos and lotteries are the government’s voluntary tax program. In case you didn’t notice, Governments need tax revenue to operate.

This is why APs are parasites on the economy. They are attacking the government’s voluntary tax program which is taking revenue away from state and local governments.

Our economy would be better off if all APs would get a real job and go to casinos and play in a negative EV way, like most people. This would contribute more to our state and local governments. APs don’t need to do this because it’s legal to be an AP but no AP should ever think they're doing anything that’s benefiting anybody, including the government.

Wait a minute Bob. This sounds you are saying the government can manage our money more effeciently than we can ourselves. I thought you didnt like liberalism. The idea that the government should have our money because they will us it better than we will is about as liberal as you can get. Most conservatives and even a large number of otherwise liberals agree that they would prefer to allocate their own money and not have the government do it and that the government is already too big and intrudes into citizens lives too much.

AP - Win money. Buys food, clothes, cars, rent, ect. Provides jobs and stimulates the economy

Goverment - Gets Money. - Huge Pensions, Spy on US citizens while ignoring warnings from flight schools that arab men want to learn to fly but dont need to know how to take off or land, commission $10Mill study of dust mites, fund a recreation of the play Hamlet with a cast of dogs (They really did this google it) Sieze peoples cash through civil asset forfiture with no evidence of a crime, etc, etc, etc

Thanks but I think the less money the government has the better