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[Bob21]

As far as Tommy Hyland, have you ever listened to one of his podcasts? When he started counting cards, he did it with a friend so one would keep track of postive cards, while the other would kept track of negative cards and then they would compare their numbers after a round and do the math. I’m not kidding. Tommy thought counting was a two man job. It took him a while to figure out one person can keep a simple count like Hilo.

Yeah, I have listened to Tommy's podcasts and interviews. He can afford to do those since he is in the twilight of his career. A long successful career, managing and playing on one of the top, if not the top blackjack teams for 40 years! I had the good fortune to participate on a forum, my first forum back when such forum were really about gambling and advantage play and players wanting to help and learn from each other, before the trolls like you ruined public gambling and AP forums and drove them underground to private forums. So I learned a great deal from Tommy back in the day.

I also have in the past 6 months reconnected with him and have private conversations and access to him any time I want. You implying that Mr. Hyland is stupid, because he and his college roommate used a simplistic team count approach when they were 21 years old and in college and knew almost nothing about card counting, again shows what an idiot and rather dishonest idiot you are. Tommy went on to have a 40+ year career as one of the top card counters ever. He hired and worked with the best, and as a result he has done pretty damn well for himself.

You continue to prove what a fucking moron you are. TROLL!

I must admit when I heard Tommy say that it surprised me. You’d think two 21 year olds in college could figure out cancellation of numbers in the hilo system before they went to a casino. It’s not that hard to intuitively know to do this after practicing for a little while.

And I did think Tommy calling card counting one of the most “noble” things a person can do is pretty stupid. Casinos are here because we (with a self ruling government) want them here. It’s that simple! Casinos provide entertainment, jobs and tax revenue for state and local governments and yet Tommy Hyland thinks its “noble” to try and undermine them?

What value did Tommy bring to society by extracting revenue from a casino? I’ll give you a hint. None. I get it’s legal. But do you really think it’s “noble”? Do you think it’s more “noble” than being a doctor, a teacher, a policeman, a fireman, etc? If you do, you think like your hero Tommy Hyland. I think about any job, even a janitor, is more “noble” than being a card counting....and yes, I am a card count on the side. But I don’t have any delusions that I’m doing something great for society when I’m card counting.

I never saw you defend The Blackjack Hall of Fame. Why? You seemed to talk highly of it. Did you know the reason it’s in a casino (Borna) is to attract ONLY losing customers. If you play like the Blackjack Hall of Fame members, you’ll be kicked out. In fact, even the BJ Hall of Fame members aren’t allowed to play bj in Borna. Do you see any inconsistencies here kj? You’re the expert on this. Most people do.

Why do you see being honest and having an opinion different than yours as being a “troll”? Oh, I get it, it’s in your AP code of conduct manual. Any opinion different than the great kj is a “toll”. No wonder you've been kicked off so many sites. Have you ever thought that maybe you’re the “troll” and the disruptive person?