Can someone show me the link to the court documents in which Kane and/or Nestor were charged with straight up theft and/or possible embezzlement? No? Oh, because those charges were never a part of the underlying subject? Okay then.
That's not even close to what embezzlement means, unless one or both of them were employees of the casinos and/or had money entrusted to them by the casinos for casino purposes.
Basically, there were two charges that the prosecutors were even attempting to try. I know one was wire fraud and forget the other, but it's in that article somewhere. One of the charges they themselves decided they had absolutely nothing and the other of the two charges would have been a serious stretch. You guys can argue all you want about whether or not something should be a crime, and I'll have no part of that, but if the federal prosecutors had thought they could make any possibly applicable federal charges stick, then they would have went with them.
Depending on the letter of the law, there are perhaps states/localities in which the described action would be a crime, or at least, made to fit the definition of one of their crimes well enough. This action could also become a crime, (at any level) but even if it had, you can't retroact it to past events prior to the crime becoming a law.
(All Quotes below are from KewlJ)
Who cares when he figured it out or if he did at all? It's not going to change my checking account balance to know for sure whether he knew it at the time or not. Any accusations that he did not (even if based on past posting history) are just accusations that can not be proven anyway. As they say, "You can't prove a negative."
It's really not my intention to be a proxy for you guys arguing with each other. Although, I will say the fact that each of you have agreed with me on different points probably says something.
The jury in the OJ case did not decide that murder is not a crime, they decided that OJ did not commit murder. Pretty big difference.
Wrong-Opinion (I probably kind of agree, but that wouldn't stop me in this case. I'll reevaluate my moral integrity when I'm sitting on a couple million. Also, I probably would not hit a small independent place.) .
Dishonest-Opinion (What's dishonest? Who are you lying to? Shit, Kane even tried to tell the attendant the first time and the attendant just laughed it off. The machine is saying, "Jackpot," not me.)
Illegal-HUGE OPINION (How? Demonstrate illegal. They couldn't charge them with anything at the Federal level, you don't think they would have if they had something?)
Also, there is a difference between civil legality and criminal legality. Technically, a casino could bring a case against a patron for whatever it wants to and vice-a-versa. That case might be dismissed for any number of reasons, (including not fitting the statute they are bringing the case under) but you can file a case claiming whatever you want to. Might civil law have been violated on this one? Maybe, but if any casinos sued either of the guys civilly (and I'm not saying none did) I haven't seen it.
It would be a good comparison if there were case laws to show that both of those things are crimes. I think you'll find a case on bank computer hacking without looking particularly hard.
Wrong-Again, opinion. I will definitely stipulate, "Unfair," still haven't decided if I go as far as wrong. Again, wouldn't stop me in this case. Too much money, cost/benefit analysis looks awesome.
CELEBRATE-I'm not celebrating anything. I didn't make a dime off of those guys doing that, what do I have to celebrate?




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