Originally Posted by seemoreroyals View Post
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post

No, I'm not comparing 8 years to 2 years. Read the article again. It compares the first 645 days of each presidency. If you want to compare 8 years to 2 years it would be 182% for Obama to 29% for Trump.

I will agree with you on one point, and that is the market was bottoming when Obama came into office, but don't say the market has done better under Trump than Obama because it is not true.
"There are 3 kinds of lies. Lies, damn lies, and statistics." Mark Twain

The market had bottomed at 8000 when Obama took over. By August 2011 the market was at 11,000. That's not 183%. More like 37%. It was helped along by zero percent prime rate. But that rise did nothing for job creation. Unemployment was at 9% in 2009 and 8.5% in 2011. And the 8.5% figure is somewhat phony because so many people had quit actively looking for work. The Trump stock market rise put a lot of people back to work and those already working saw pay increases.
And then there is the 4th type of lie. That told by either Mickey Crimm, Rob Singer, or Donald J. Trump. Basis for their facts is either Alex Jones, Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, or some other misinformed like minded individual. The purpose of their lies is to intimidate or influence weak minded or uneducated people that are not able to look at both sides and decide for themselves.
All the liberal lying and posturing doesn't change the one fact that guarantees Trump being elected for a 2nd term: the economy.

Now YOU may not have a retirement account, but both my wife and I do. And I'll tell you one sure thing that confused and angry peoplelike you do not want to understand: we don't work, we spend A LOT of money, and we still have almost as much value in both our accounts as we had the day Trump was elected.

We are certainly not alone. Plus those who work and contribute likely have far more money now than they did then, and wages are up/taxes are down. So all the lies in the world by libtards and never-Trumpers like our misguided sling, will ever affect the votes of the general public. You might be able to get some foreigners, minorities, queers, etc. to vote for one of those nutjob democratic candidates because many of them would rather have handouts, but it'll mean little overall.

Eli's coming....again.