Coach, As an observer and none AP I somehow at some time stumbled into the WOV forum, and then from there ended up in a couple of other gambling forums to include here. Having gambled all over the world I occasionally shared an experience or two or three. But, for the most part (and being retired now with lots of spare time) I seem to be addicted to reading the endless (unconfirmed) bullshit on these sites. It’s obvious all entertainment to me, especially when I participate with personal input. (Usually with combative but honest personal opinion).

No doubt certain AP’s made millions with well known and written about plays. But, for the most part all others likely are making a few bucks here or there, or may even be able to support themselves AP’ing. I’m guessing with all the AP stories you read about on these forums maybe 2% could be true. That would be 2 out of a 100 for you people not good with math.

Even Mike Shank (the king of gaming math) that all AP’s seem to look up to went broke but got bailed out by online gaming interests. If online casinos thought Mike Shanks fans and members posting on his sites were the cream of the crop gamblers able to beat casinos (like Mike S. did lol) why would they spend the alleged million plus dollars to get their hands on them to gamble and take money from their casinos.

Why would you even think about taking on an argument with the likes of Axel or that stupid bitch BBB. Wizard of Nothing (remember him) one of WOV own superstar members turned out to be one of the biggest online shysters ever.

After reading tons of Axel posts all over the place and sharing personal pm’s with him, I can’t help but reach the conclusion that he’s one of the biggest bullshit artists going. I’m not saying he’s not making AP money but to the extent he seems to always be trying to convince everyone that he is convinces me he’s actually not. There were tons of people who claim to know him said he was a drunk. The amount of posts he has made over the years with 99 percent of them being stupid comments or insults to others, is another indication he has problems. I’m talking about what is it 20K posts? Just not adding up. I wanted to meet him in Vegas while I was staying at a hotel there for two weeks. He claimed he didn’t trust me and was busy anyway. I think he didn’t in fear of me being able to expose the truth. Something familiar happened with WON in A.C., he was a no show. I would add that while I always trashed and challenged Redietz with many different exchanges, his posts about sports betting seem to be clever. In addition, he reached out to meet me in person in Vegas. As soon as this cancer shit is squared away, I plan on taking him up on it. This is the season I should be in Nevada and am looking forward to getting back there.

You deserve being banned from WOV just for going there and trying to make a different point than the masses.

Don’t waste your time with Axel. You’ve already been blacklisted from all the phonies so why waste time. Then again if you enjoy the fight like I do with plenty time to kill, then just have a good time.