Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
I find that hard to believe. like 19 y.o's in a row hard to believe.
You've called AM (among others) a liar many times.

Are you calling MDawg a liar too?

Being a known and proven liar yourself, you probably expect everybody else to lie all the time too, just like you do.
Typical coach belly.

I have called Alan "dishonest" a number of times, because Alan has lied, manipulated or stretched the truth many, many times about many topics. More stretching and manipulating the truth and general dishonesty than lying. For Example, I believe Alan saw something unusual with the 19 y.o. in a row. He may think he saw that, when it was actually less. Kind of a selective memory thing. So I have tried to give him the benefit of doubt.

Here is another example of Alan, that involves me. When we were discussing tracking 2 tables, Alan got up at 3am and ran out to a strip casino (I believe Caesars) and took intentional blurry pictures of a blackjack table not in use, from 3 feet off the ground and a funny angle and again, let me emphasize, intentionally blurry. He did this trying to indicate this is what a person would see from 6-8 feet away. So let me ask you coach belly, was this honest?

Along the same lines, I have not used the word "liar" in regards to MDawg. While I don't believe he has won 40 trips in a row, unless there is something going on that he is not telling us, perhaps some very strong advantage play that he is not able to divulge. In the absence of that, I think maybe he is dealing with a case of selective memory. This is very common among gamblers. They remember either the wins or losses differently than they really occurred.

But it doesn't matter to me. I encounter many many players on these forums that I think are stretching the truth (to be kind), exaggerating, which again is a common trait among gamblers, especially losing gamblers. And while I am being kind in terminology here, I don't even care if a person is flat out intentionally lying, unless they are doing so in a manner that is intentionally harming other players, like insisting that this "system" works, encouraging others to follow, and that includes, (self-publishing) books.

So, while you, coach belly, are trying to get me to call MDawg a liar, I am not doing so, and I think his participation here is appropriate and I find it interesting and entertaining.