Dietz said his wife made a lot more money than him. What do you think a professor at East Tennessee State was paid in 1998?Quote:
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Dietz said his wife made a lot more money than him. What do you think a professor at East Tennessee State was paid in 1998?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
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Originally Posted by mickeycrimmDietz said his wife made a lot more money than him. What do you think a professor at East Tennessee State was paid in 1998?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Boy, mickey, I expected better from you. I said she made more money than I did the majority of the time. The majority of the time she was working for the US Army. As I stated, she took a 35-40% pay cut to teach at ETSU because teaching was her dream job. She became sick shortly after her taking the ETSU position.
I guess an alternative question might be, how comfortable were we with our income and resources for her to voluntarily take a 35-40% pay cut in 1998? And do you know anybody else outside of the Trumpster who took a voluntary 40% pay cut recently?
I can't believe your reading skills and/or your ability to report reality have declined so precipitously.
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Originally Posted by kewlJWell I doubt anyone cares about Murry and his book of pick-up basketball, but as to the above, where did I ever claim I am an expert on sports betting? Please link and quote!Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
I have been doing one specific advantage play involving sports betting, and it is the very simplest thing you can do at an advantage... play the bonus game for as long as you can get away with it.
For the life of me, I don't understand why YOU were so threatened by me, Axelwolf, mickey Crimm and some others venturing into sports betting doing some things at an advantage. THAT is what advantage players do. You seemed to have this bug up your ass that because you have been involved in sports betting (as a tout, I guess) that no one else has a right to do anything with sports betting. You Don't fucking own sports betting Bob Dietz!
I'll help you out in case you want to know more about Murry. He's written many books about many topics, including biographies of Bill Russell and Shaq.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murry_R._Nelson
Shoot him an email if you get a chance. I'm reasonably certain he'll say I was a lousy ballhandler, a good passer, a conscientious rebounder, and had a real nice left hand. But I also looked like a fundamental nightmare. I would, however, jump into a fracas pile without a second thought.
I have no idea. Do you know or have an idea? remember we are talking a relatively small house, which we know because Dietz posted up a picture of posted the address and someone else posted up the picture.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
The ONLY reason it is relevant is because of the Kim Lee visit a few weeks ago. Kim Lee, redietz's witness, came here and said after studying the very publications that Red floats out there, Kim Lee concluded Dietz could not have made much money as a sports bettor. I don't know how much Kim Lee considered Dietz's other income from being a tout, but he specifically said based on his win percent and the money he wagers, maybe Dietz could have broken even or made a few bucks if he had someone else supporting him and paying the bills most of those years.
I don't even think Kim Lee knew what Redietz's situation was when he came to that conclusion, but yet he hit it right on the head. THAT is the hilarious part. redietz's witness and he came here and hit it right on the head. :rolleyes: A little bit different than a Billy Waters or any number of other successful sports bettors, that understand EV, kelly wagering and can hit 55-56%, don't need other people's money, just bet, win and never look back.
The cost of living though in East Bumblefuck, Tennessee is low so someone making a low salary there might be able to live better than someone making twice as much money in New York, or California.
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Mdawg, I no longer see your silly posts. You are wasting your time. I can probably guess what most are, your usual trolling, taking quotes out of context, which is all you have done for several years on the forum, but honestly, I don't see them. I thought I might still see a few when people quoted you, but no one even seems to do that, so it has gone better than I thought. I see none of it. None of your stupid angry trolling.
But please feel free to keep wasting your time, at least until Druff has had enough.
Off the top of my head Hegseth took a huge paycut. Jeanine Pirro took a huge paycut. Musk got zero dollars. Tammy Bruce took a huge paycut.Quote:
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Originally Posted by mickeycrimmDietz said his wife made a lot more money than him. What do you think a professor at East Tennessee State was paid in 1998?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Boy, mickey, I expected better from you. I said she made more money than I did the majority of the time. The majority of the time she was working for the US Army. As I stated, she took a 35-40% pay cut to teach at ETSU because teaching was her dream job. She became sick shortly after her taking the ETSU position.
I guess an alternative question might be, how comfortable were we with our income and resources for her to voluntarily take a 35-40% pay cut in 1998? And do you know anybody else outside of the Trumpster who took a voluntary 40% pay cut recently?
I can't believe your reading skills and/or your ability to report reality have declined so precipitously.
I cant believe you are so ignorant on a subject that YOU brought up.
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Originally Posted by soxfan
All of questiomable competence and no experience. All media grifters looking to keep their brand going after sucking trump dick.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmOff the top of my head Hegseth took a huge paycut. Jeanine Pirro took a huge paycut. Musk got zero dollars. Tammy Bruce took a huge paycut.Quote:
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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Boy, mickey, I expected better from you. I said she made more money than I did the majority of the time. The majority of the time she was working for the US Army. As I stated, she took a 35-40% pay cut to teach at ETSU because teaching was her dream job. She became sick shortly after her taking the ETSU position.
I guess an alternative question might be, how comfortable were we with our income and resources for her to voluntarily take a 35-40% pay cut in 1998? And do you know anybody else outside of the Trumpster who took a voluntary 40% pay cut recently?
I can't believe your reading skills and/or your ability to report reality have declined so precipitously.
I cant believe you are so ignorant on a subject that YOU brought up.
And Musk the only competent has already been paid by government more than anyone in history, brosephus, gather up a clue.
You have the typical libtard opinion. All are extremely competent and aren't neocon sell outs. Now get back to sucking Biden's dick.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionAll of questiomable competence and no experience. All media grifters looking to keep their brand going after sucking trump dick.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmOff the top of my head Hegseth took a huge paycut. Jeanine Pirro took a huge paycut. Musk got zero dollars. Tammy Bruce took a huge paycut.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
I cant believe you are so ignorant on a subject that YOU brought up.
And Musk the only competent has already been paid by government more than anyone in history, brosephus, gather up a clue.
It's cute when retards are fixated on a politician that no longer is relevant.
Yea doubtful I've even said anything about Biden but when your point is so weak you gotta fall back on something.Quote:
Originally Posted by jdaewoo
Hegseth competent lol
Those witch trial were pretty cool, but not as cool as what Vlad the Impaler did...look him up, you might get an idea for a new story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tasha
Biden appointee’s competent lol. You worshipped those idiots. U wuz in luuuuuuvvvvvvve.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionYea doubtful I've even said anything about Biden but when your point is so weak you gotta fall back on something.Quote:
Originally Posted by jdaewoo
Hegseth competent lol
I could have a discussion about competence and directly reference the actual actions of hegseth both before and after being appointed.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmBiden appointee’s competent lol. You worshipped those idiots. U wuz in luuuuuuvvvvvvve.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionYea doubtful I've even said anything about Biden but when your point is so weak you gotta fall back on something.Quote:
Originally Posted by jdaewoo
Hegseth competent lol
Anyway yea yea I love Biden. You have nothing so you make up stuff.
You've been around long enough you have great gambling stories and great at slot machine math but seem to have almost no respect otherwise..... mmmmmmmmmm
I don't know if I have ever defended Biden in any way but you absolutely can't stand criticism of your dear leader. Sad.
How ironic that draft dodging Trump demanded a milirary parade for his birthday; how apt that few specators showed up: they decided to protest "No Kings" instead.
Happy birthday, Donnie!
Bwa ha ha ha
The sad thing is that the democrats cannot offer up a candidate worth a damn either.
We've devolved into a Confederacy of Dunces.
You people are just too fanatically political for me.
I don't care for some of Trumps picks to lead different agencies. JKF Jr, Pam Bondi, the lady in charge of education, a few of them. But Trump, just like any other president has a right to his own people, even if other people feel them unqualified. But this Hegseth dude....the guy is a known lifelong alcoholic, with troubling incidents fairly recently. So when put in charge of the worlds largest military, he basically said "I promise to stop drinking". Yikes!!! :confused:
MrV has a point though. Donald Trump dodged the draft with a phony bone spur diagnosis. Rich kids have always found ways to avoid the draft. But you would think, todays military, made up of people who volunteer, just would not, could not have much respect for someone who dodged with "bone spurs".
Funny how those "spurs" haven't stopped him from playing golf nearly every day all these years. :D
I found a tennis player KJ can bet on, his name is "A. Fery ". If you're into Mexicans or Chipotle or dirty Sanches, there is "D. BERRITO SANCHEZ".
That reminds me of that great book "I Fought a Mountain Lion" by Claude Balls.
I bet on A Fery and it looks like he will lose, but I thought it was illegal to beat A Fery.
Usually whenever I venture near discussing anything sexual and gay, everyone screams bloody murder. Do you now want to discuss my sexual preferences?Quote:
Originally Posted by theywontpayontuesday
Ok here goes. I have heard the term "dirty sanchez", but never knew or cared what it was, until I just now looked it up. Pretty gross and disgusting. Something only a straight (or pretending to be) dude could come up with.
I have never and will never participate in anal sex of any kind (catching or pitching). Just have no interest. so no reason for me to concern myself. As for oral sex, I am very particular when giving. Recipient must be young, cute, fit, preferably smooth stomach/abs, and circumcised. That last stipulation eliminates almost all Mexicans and other Latinos. When receiving, I am a little less discriminating, as long as it is understood, I am not returning any favors. Not going near that bacteria infected ant-eater.
There! Happy Tuesdays.
Duane asked his dad "Dad, can I borrow the car tonight? I've got a date."
"Sure."
Later that night Duane rolls in, tipsy, smiling, shirt untucked.
"Well son, how did it go?"
"It was great, dad. I got my first blow job."
Dad smiled, fondly remembering the tirst hummer he'd ever gotten.
"Well son, did you like it?"
"Oh yeah, it felt great...tasted really weirdt though."
Only mildly related, but with discussions of penises, and Vaginas (Dan Druff's vagina obsession in another thread), we watched a hilarious movie last night, that featured both a Vagina Job (Vagina plastic surgery) and adult circumcision involving a non-Jewish dude obsessed with and wanting to marry a Jewish girl.
The movie was about 12 years old and staring Tom Arnold and Jon Lovitz as Jewish fathers, and the still beautiful Jennifer Love Hewitt as the stereo-typical JAP (Jewish American Princess). A lot of Jewish humor with this mostly Jewish cast poking fun at Jewish stereo types. the movie name....Jewtopia. :D
And yes there was gay humor with a Jewish dude in his 20's that was about to marry a Jewish girl (it is she that had the Vagina Job because he couldn't stand to look at her Vagina) who was very obviously deep deep (Rob Singer type deep) in the closet. Funny shit! If you have 90 minutes to kill and want a good laugh, take a watch.
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This is public information.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
https://www.etsu.edu/human-resources...05.22.2024.pdf
Bob Dietz paid $20 for a room at Gold Spike in the late 1980's, the lowest grade hotel casino I ever saw..
Harrah's had full-pay 3:2 blackjack machines in the 1990's where you could play tens of thousands of dollars in action per hour for comps. They had machines where you could print up to $200 of daily comp tickets without a host. I already posted about the free Vegas World rooms if you posted up $400. There were many other opportunities in blackjack, video poker, and miscellaneous. Some AP's survived on coupon runs. There were so many specials, like South Point sports book's $.75 hot dogs, Golden Gates $1 shrimp cocktail, and plenty of $1 bottled beers. Aladdin guaranteed a free room if you played a $25 average for a few hours per day. Jean Scott wrote a book Frugal Vegas about all the freebies and bargains. But at the height of his monitored handicapping prowess, Bob paid $20 for a Gold Spike room, while selling picks. That tells me all I need to know about Bob's success.
Truths say cats what bet sport don't Garner much in the way of comp, hey hey.
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Sincerely thanks for sharing. You are quite unique for sure. I would have never guessed you would say this. I would like the entertainment of Mdawg and friends to have to read hundreds of these posts. Yes if you can't kill them with kindness, then kill them with your gayness.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJUsually whenever I venture near discussing anything sexual and gay, everyone screams bloody murder. Do you now want to discuss my sexual preferences?Quote:
Originally Posted by theywontpayontuesday
Ok here goes. I have heard the term "dirty sanchez", but never knew or cared what it was, until I just now looked it up. Pretty gross and disgusting. Something only a straight (or pretending to be) dude could come up with.
I have never and will never participate in anal sex of any kind (catching or pitching). Just have no interest. so no reason for me to concern myself. As for oral sex, I am very particular when giving. Recipient must be young, cute, fit, preferably smooth stomach/abs, and circumcised. That last stipulation eliminates almost all Mexicans and other Latinos. When receiving, I am a little less discriminating, as long as it is understood, I am not returning any favors. Not going near that bacteria infected ant-eater.
There! Happy Tuesdays.
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Originally Posted by MDawgis no reason for the UNKewl one to start making the same jokes about himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Why did the chicken cross the road?Quote:
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Originally Posted by MDawgis no reason for the UNKewl one to start making the same jokes about himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Because Mdawgs dick was stuck in it.
Not anymore. But they used to.Quote:
Originally Posted by soxfan
I played those $25 denom BJ machines from time to time as they were slightly +EV. There were many better things to be playing, so I didn't spend as much time playing them as others did. It felt more like gambling than Advantage Play.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim LeeThis is public information.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
https://www.etsu.edu/human-resources...05.22.2024.pdf
Bob Dietz paid $20 for a room at Gold Spike in the late 1980's, the lowest grade hotel casino I ever saw..
Harrah's had full-pay 3:2 blackjack machines in the 1990's where you could play tens of thousands of dollars in action per hour for comps. They had machines where you could print up to $200 of daily comp tickets without a host. I already posted about the free Vegas World rooms if you posted up $400. There were many other opportunities in blackjack, video poker, and miscellaneous. Some AP's survived on coupon runs. There were so many specials, like South Point sports book's $.75 hot dogs, Golden Gates $1 shrimp cocktail, and plenty of $1 bottled beers. Aladdin guaranteed a free room if you played a $25 average for a few hours per day. Jean Scott wrote a book Frugal Vegas about all the freebies and bargains. But at the height of his monitored handicapping prowess, Bob paid $20 for a Gold Spike room, while selling picks. That tells me all I need to know about Bob's success.
I don't know what years Red was coming to Vegas, but up untill about 97ish give or take(it stopped when the last casino installed card readers), one didn't have to play a dime to get good comps. One could Just get a small casino logbook, and whenever you bought in for change/slot tokens, a casino employee would write down the amount you bought and initial it. You could then walk to another section of the casino, break the coin wraps if need be, and cash those coins in, rinse and repeat.
If one wanted to appear as if they were playing, there were some machines that would accept coins and hold them as credits untill you cashed out.
Once you wanted a comp, depending on the location and amount of comps you wanted(it took as little as $300), you took your book to a manager, pitboss, or host, and they would cross out and mark off an amount they felt was appropriate for that comp amount.
I did this for a while before I was earning comps naturally via my play. I had multiple books at multiple casinos going at once.
Years later, I rented a movie, Hard Eight. I had no idea what it was about, but it was fun to see a scene about this very thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgEApN9ap0A
FYI, It didn't take all day to accumulate comps like this movie suggested. One could get thousands of dollars logged in their comp book in a very short time. It took about 15 to 20 minutes to accumulate enough for a decent meal comp.
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LOL. I have read The Las Vegas Advisor since its inception. I am well aware of AC's coupon runs. I did the Vegas World schtick, which I reported here to Boz, who also did it. Golden Gate $1 shrimp cocktails at the piano bar were classic downtown take-a-break-at-the-Gate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim LeeThis is public information.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
https://www.etsu.edu/human-resources...05.22.2024.pdf
Bob Dietz paid $20 for a room at Gold Spike in the late 1980's, the lowest grade hotel casino I ever saw..
Harrah's had full-pay 3:2 blackjack machines in the 1990's where you could play tens of thousands of dollars in action per hour for comps. They had machines where you could print up to $200 of daily comp tickets without a host. I already posted about the free Vegas World rooms if you posted up $400. There were many other opportunities in blackjack, video poker, and miscellaneous. Some AP's survived on coupon runs. There were so many specials, like South Point sports book's $.75 hot dogs, Golden Gates $1 shrimp cocktail, and plenty of $1 bottled beers. Aladdin guaranteed a free room if you played a $25 average for a few hours per day. Jean Scott wrote a book Frugal Vegas about all the freebies and bargains. But at the height of his monitored handicapping prowess, Bob paid $20 for a Gold Spike room, while selling picks. That tells me all I need to know about Bob's success.
Basically, everything you just reported could be found in a 1985 Las Vegas Advisor.
I liked the Gold Spike, where (in my 20's) I occasionally stayed on weekends. They had a 2-for-1 snack bar where you could get meatloaf meals to go. The Spike also provided me with its infamous "single male" corner rooms, which featured a canopied bed and where an enterprising pimp would sometimes drop by at 1 AM to see if the single males needed any companionship.
I'm glad my staying in the Gold Spike on weekends in my 20's was an indicator of my success. I always considered myself a Hunter Thompson kind of guy, so the compliment is appreciated.
Of course, Kim Lee is also invited to my new digs in the shadow of Bristol Motor Speedway. My superior other is, however, a real Asian, so she may have issues with white idjits hijacking Asian names in an attempt to appear brainy. Or maybe an attempt at an, if you'll forgive the racist phrase, Oriental mystique.
Come on down to Bristol, baby! We have a casino where you can show off your expertise. Well, not really, we do know the management a little, and if you've seen the card counter scene in Casino, well....
For civilians reading this, I'll add the shiv to "Kim Lee's" grand observation. Everything I did in LV was pretty much also done by "Anthony Curtis" at the same time. So if my routines and eating habits are indicative of a gambling failure, well, "Mr. Curtis" is in the same proverbial boat. Now "Mr. Curtis" may not have had the adventurous spirit (AKA balls) to park his butt in the Spike on the occasional weekend, but the rest of the time we were staying in the same places, doing much of the same-priced stuff, and eating the same food.
I'm happy to be as much a failure as Mr. Flowers, oh, excuse me, "AC." We paved the way.
P.S. I really don't get the criticism. I self-report having stayed on weekends n The Spike, and Kim Lee et al. think I am somehow unaware of the perspective I'm giving to readers and its implications. I mean, c'mon, do you really think you have caught me in some info giveaway that reveals my personal narrative as overblown? You do realize I can read my own writing, right? LOL. You guys are genuinely pathetic. Bizarre on top of it, but mainly pathetic. You think nobody else CAN think. You just fail at the whole interpretation. Jesus, have some brains once in awhile.
Have some brains? Buddy at least everyone else here understands the word expected.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzLOL. I have read The Las Vegas Advisor since its inception. I am well aware of AC's coupon runs. I did the Vegas World schtick, which I reported here to Boz, who also did it. Golden Gate $1 shrimp cocktails at the piano bar were classic downtown take-a-break-at-the-Gate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim LeeThis is public information.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
https://www.etsu.edu/human-resources...05.22.2024.pdf
Bob Dietz paid $20 for a room at Gold Spike in the late 1980's, the lowest grade hotel casino I ever saw..
Harrah's had full-pay 3:2 blackjack machines in the 1990's where you could play tens of thousands of dollars in action per hour for comps. They had machines where you could print up to $200 of daily comp tickets without a host. I already posted about the free Vegas World rooms if you posted up $400. There were many other opportunities in blackjack, video poker, and miscellaneous. Some AP's survived on coupon runs. There were so many specials, like South Point sports book's $.75 hot dogs, Golden Gates $1 shrimp cocktail, and plenty of $1 bottled beers. Aladdin guaranteed a free room if you played a $25 average for a few hours per day. Jean Scott wrote a book Frugal Vegas about all the freebies and bargains. But at the height of his monitored handicapping prowess, Bob paid $20 for a Gold Spike room, while selling picks. That tells me all I need to know about Bob's success.
Basically, everything you just reported could be found in a 1985 Las Vegas Advisor.
I liked the Gold Spike, where (in my 20's) I occasionally stayed on weekends. They had a 2-for-1 snack bar where you could get meatloaf meals to go. The Spike also provided me with its infamous "single male" corner rooms, which featured a canopied bed and where an enterprising pimp would sometimes drop by at 1 AM to see if the single males needed any companionship.
I'm glad my staying in the Gold Spike on weekends in my 20's was an indicator of my success. I always considered myself a Hunter Thompson kind of guy, so the compliment is appreciated.
Of course, Kim Lee is also invited to my new digs in the shadow of Bristol Motor Speedway. My superior other is, however, a real Asian, so she may have issues with white idjits hijacking Asian names in an attempt to appear brainy. Or maybe an attempt at an, if you'll forgive the racist phrase, Oriental mystique.
Come on down to Bristol, baby! We have a casino where you can show off your expertise. Well, not really, we do know the management a little, and if you've seen the card counter scene in Casino, well....
For civilians reading this, I'll add the shiv to "Kim Lee's" grand observation. Everything I did in LV was pretty much also done by "Anthony Curtis" at the same time. So if my routines and eating habits are indicative of a gambling failure, well, "Mr. Curtis" is in the same proverbial boat. Now "Mr. Curtis" may not have had the adventurous spirit (AKA balls) to park his butt in the Spike on the occasional weekend, but the rest of the time we were staying in the same places, doing much of the same-priced stuff, and eating the same food.
I'm happy to be as much a failure as Mr. Flowers, oh, excuse me, "AC." We paved the way.
P.S. I really don't get the criticism. I self-report having stayed on weekends n The Spike, and Kim Lee et al. think I am somehow unaware of the perspective I'm giving to readers and its implications. I mean, c'mon, do you really think you have caught me in some info giveaway that reveals my personal narrative as overblown? You do realize I can read my own writing, right? LOL. You guys are genuinely pathetic. Bizarre on top of it, but mainly pathetic. You think nobody else CAN think. You just fail at the whole interpretation. Jesus, have some brains once in awhile.
And who wants to live by a motor racetrack? Who the fuck thinks that is a positive?
What's the minimum Vegas hotel room rate a player should pay to qualify as a successful handicapper?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
There just is no sense in continuing to post in this or the sports bet thread. Bob Dietz just repeats the same, what has now almost become schtick, over and over. he might as well shorten his posts to:
"Opinion NOT EV.
Monitored Gypsters typsters & McCuskers
And now new house shadow of motor speedway"
Along with the name dropping of Billy Walters and Anthony Curtis. With Curtis being gay, you have to wonder just how close he and Dietz were? Although really, if you mentioned Bob Dietz to Curtis, he most likely would have the same reaction as Billy Walters and say "who?"
You can add to the list Dietz telling people to call into a telephone interview that is never going to occur.
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Against strawmen.
The whole EV thing has been discussed over and over and not worth rehashing. Pure buffoonery.
Everything about Red and his claims is baffoonery. Easy to see looking back. It was Rob Singer level stuff. I guess what saved him for so long, is there just wasn't anyone really doing anything with sports betting (at an advantage). So no one to question him. He could just say all this weird shit and get away with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
For me, one of the early red flags was a guy who claimed to spend 4 months a year in Vegas EVERY year for 40 years not understanding or knowing why an advantage player, particularly a table game advantage player would need to remain as anonymous as possible. Red thought we should use our real name on these forms like he and Alan. I mean someone not understanding that, doesn't know shit about Las Vegas and how it works.
The other thing that was always a red flag to me, was why a guy that spends 4+ months a year didn't eventually own a place in vegas, even some small garden condo like Wong owned over by Rio/Palms.
EVERY advantage player that I know, started out playing lower limit than he eventually worked up to. And part of that early period for EVERY player was skimping and saving a buck everywhere you can while you build BR. So most players have some stories of staying at some low level places on the cheap.
BUT ONLY FOR A COUPLE YEAR! Gamblers, playing for a living carry large amounts of cash (and that includes sports bettors). You aren't camping out in these dumpy places for months at a time carry cash like that. A couple years and you move on to a better situation. Redietz did that shit for 40 years. It just NEVER fit with a great sports bettor, the second coming of Billy Walters.
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Originally Posted by kewlJ
Anthony Curtis is not gay. He dated plenty of women and had kids with a few.
That is not what I have heard from several different people. But whatever. I am not here to out anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim LeeDon't forget Hunter Thompson. The important distinction is these guys became rich and famous in Las Vegas.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Anthony Curtis is not gay. He dated plenty of women and had kids with a few.
I don't know who Hunter Thompson is or was. Red does A LOT of Name dropping. Did he play pick up basketball with Hunter Thompson? (Joke). It is actually pretty funny that every topic that comes up Red knew someone, a sister of a friend's cousin, or someone he played pickup basketball with 50 years ago. And if it is something that requires investigation, Red and Rob both have family members in the FBI that can do so, despite that it would get them fired.
The bottom line is that if Dietz could hit at 55%, 56% let alone the cherry picked years he hangs onto for touting promotional purposes, he would have bet, won, bet, won and never looked back. That is the formula for every winning gambler/AP on every forum. There may be a period in the beginning that you have to skimp a bit to build BR to be able to move on, but everyone moves on to winning reasonable amounts. Of course everyone understands EV, standard deviation and Kelly Wagering also.
Now to tell the truth, I would be interested in what a tout type person/player made? All that touting with 800 numbers and all that racket was way before my time. Maybe he was a good tout and made a little money, who knows. But he didn't make much money as a sports bettor and that was his claim all these years.
KIM Lee, in looking at all the numbers from those publications, I think you hit it right on the head. the guy might have broke even or made a few sheckles if he had someone basically supporting him. And when you wrote that and hit it on the head, I don't even think you were aware that was exactly his case.
Actually, there is a way we can get to the bottom of this Kim Lee, without involving a phone-in interview.
You can accept Dietz's invitation to spend a few days at his GF's new house in the shadow of the speedway (bring ear plugs) and try to see what you can did up. :D He has boxes of cherry-picked contest results he wants to show you. You know....the kind of thing touts use to rope in new "suckers".
There is one other thing that has come up very recently that is now kind of telling. Dietz has been making posts about betting golf futures. When mickeycrimm points out that in not +EV kind of stuff, Dietz went to the "it's only lunch money" kind of reply. THAT is classic degen gambler and not true AP/winning player thinking.
I know, because I too did some -EV sports betting before I started doing this sports betting bonus chasing. NFL games and March madness basketball. And I too would say it is entertainment, and the real cost of a few $100 bets is the same as going to a movie.
Difference was, sports betting was not my primary, or even secondary supplemental gambling activity at the time. It really was entertainment. If sports betting is your big claim to winning gambling and you can't control yourself and are making -EV bets "Because it is just lunch money", it is pretty telling (damning) about your entire sports betting claims. But we are beating a long dead horse here.
Tell us more.
While it can be dangerous to assume, I have to assume that the "Hunter Thompson" referred to is the gent who blew his head off with a shotgun, ala Hemingway.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
The Las Vegas connection would be he authored "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas."
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Originally Posted by MisterVWhile it can be dangerous to assume, I have to assume that the "Hunter Thompson" referred to is the gent who blew his head off with a shotgun, ala Hemingway.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
The Las Vegas connection would be he authored "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas."
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Originally Posted by redietz
Hey...I can swing by College Park on my way down to Bristol, pick the professor up and make it a road trip...we'll catch the Beltway to 66 then out to 81.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
And...I mean literally pick the baby up and buckle him into a car seat for the ride down.
He looks to be about 5'2" and 130 lbs (no wonder he's such a tool)... shouldn't be a problem, I'll tuck him under one arm.
I guess I should have known that since it was brought up by Kim Lee and he is my sock puppet, or I am his sock puppet or we are feeding each other talking points or whatever the latest stupid conspiracy shit is.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
Happy to explain the reference to you: I'm a bit surprised you didn't catch it.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJI guess I should have known that since it was brought up by Kim Lee and he is my sock puppet, or I am his sock puppet or we are feeding each other talking points or whatever the latest stupid conspiracy shit is.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
I knew i...you knew it...but KJ didn't know it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray FinkleNo shit Sherlock....Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterVWhile it can be dangerous to assume, I have to assume that the "Hunter Thompson" referred to is the gent who blew his head off with a shotgun, ala Hemingway.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
The Las Vegas connection would be he authored "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas."
Fuck off Finkle.
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Originally Posted by MisterVI knew i...you knew it...but KJ didn't know it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray FinkleNo shit Sherlock....Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
Fuck off Finkle.
But ya gotta understand, kj don't know shit.
Glad I could help....
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Originally Posted by MDawgA psychiatrist could (and should) have a field day with UNKewlJ. This is part of the fascination with UNKewlJ at these forums, being able to view the inner workings of a truly diseased mind from a distance - without having to be subject to its distasteful physical presence.
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Originally Posted by Gottlob1
Just look at how he got tired of being ridiculed for having no education, so he decided to create a fictional college degree (but couldn't keep track of the amount of time allegedly spent in college). As if anyone could get through four years of college and have absolutely no knowledge of history or literature. The guy has quite obviously been on the streets struggling since his family threw him out.Quote:
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Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Funny thing that while I can't and don't see this Dawg person's posts because he is blocked, I find it interesting that he is still posting.
See about a week ago at WoV, Michael BlueJay, an odd character in his own right, was looking for an attorney to escrow a challenge type bet. Dawg immediately said he couldn't do it (despite that he hadn't been asked) because he was going to be traveling out of the country for a month.
So here we are a week later and here is the mighty troll Dawg, trolling as usual. I realize there is internet availability all over the world now, but who makes it a top priority to troll on a forum with 10 people while traveling out of the country, whether for business or pleasure. Seriously who does that? I guess the same kind of guy that claims to be an attorney and then spends every business day working hours trolling. ;)
It is just funny to think back how this doofus presented himself when he showed up. Sophisticated high-end attorney, high end gambler. And in the time since he has proven almost everyday he is just another internet troll. Actually a re-incarnated internet troll. These dudes just can't help expose themselves like that.
happy travels Dog.
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Originally Posted by kewlJThat is not what I have heard from several different people. But whatever. I am not here to out anyone. ]Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim LeeDon't forget Hunter Thompson. The important distinction is these guys became rich and famous in Las Vegas.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Anthony Curtis is not gay. He dated plenty of women and had kids with a few.
Unless gay guys love filrting with, chasing, hanging around with and fucking girls.
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Why even repeat rumors like this on a public forum unless you are trying to out someone?
You're a sick fucking tewljerk.
Funny, after him knowing me for quite some time, that he would then proceed to invest money in my plays.Quote:
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Originally Posted by AxelWolf
If you stipulate that he knew you for quite some time, and invested money in your plays, then why shouldn't his recollections of your behavior be considered accurate?
Were you drunk 80% of the time he worked with you? Did you have him order his drinks for you, so that you could have two drinks at the same time? Always captain morgan?
Were your decision making skills affected by your drinking, no question? Were you drunk, then made poor decisions, which in the end costed team money?
About him investing money in your plays...why did you need investors?
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Are you saying you have watched him fucking girls? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Because....how do I want to put this....I am 100% sure he has blown a guy. :rolleyes:
Maybe I just caught him on that 0.01% day or mood. :cool:
In this day and age, these labels don't really apply anyway. I can't tell you how many straight guys I have fooled around with back in Philly. All the UPenn guys used to visit a bar near where I lived. Must have brought more than half a dozen home that were "straight" and "have never done anything like this before" or "were only fooling around because they were drunk".
And of course, my late partner was married to a woman for 15+ years and had 3 children before I met him. I currently have a friend, works the pit on the strip, that was also married to a woman and is now gay. We haven't fooled around....not THAT kind of friendship.
So I don't know, dudes can call or not call themselves whatever they want. Whatever makes them comfortable I guess. But when you have someone's dick in your mouth, you are gay in my book. :D
Maybe I am so freaking hot...or used to be when I was a little younger, that I bring out that 0.01% in guys. :cool:
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Originally Posted by MDawgLet’s add the UNKewl Groomer to the list of (albeit much less successful, dirtier and even more disagreeable) —- list of sexual predators along with Kevin Spacey.
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Originally Posted by seedvalue
WTF? Nobody cares about nor wants to read about faggot shit, and all it does is embolden sick people like kew. And the little loser isn't fooling anyone: he reads EVERY WORD of what mdawg says about him and the virtual beatings I administer to the liar. What do you think compels him to keep making multiple long-winded posts that say absolutely nothing....
Still not seeing this MDog's posts, but he seems pretty active for a guy traveling the world. Is this what most people traveling abroad do? Sit in their hotel room trolling on a forum with 10-12 people. Trolling the same couple people that KNOW his stories are bullshit over and over? Is that normal behavior. Or even beleivable behavior?
This guy has a list of 40 things that he thinks or says I have lied about, when 38, I have not and he has no proof. The other 2 I have admitted I intentionally mislead people. If I were to make such a list with this guy, it would number not 40, not hundreds, but easily in the thousands. 7 figure mansions, and playing blackjack with a professional hockey team quarantined in Canada at the time. $100-$5000 bet spreads playing double deck blackjack on the strip for 10 hours at the single sweatiest casino on the strip,
Plus all The lies made up and told about me. All the lies made up and told about Axelwof. And the lies told of the dozen other people he made threads about on his own forum, just because they didn't believe him. And that before we even get to the thousands and yes there have been thousands by now of all the bullshit winning session claims.
And even worse that is only the lies and bullshit claim under this particular handle/identity. This dude makes Rob Singer look like a straight shooter. :D
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What a sick twist this tewlj is.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
It just means he travels all the time and therefore traveling is nothing special to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
You lie so goddam much. Get help.
Talk about BJ. Talk about your made up sports betting APing. Whatever. Do not sit here and try to act like you never lied. You do nothing but lie. So obnoxious. That list of 40 is pretty spot on and most are far less likely to been a lie than what you claim Mdawg lies about. It is called logic. Something you fail at.
No AP around here seems to care about Mdawg except Axel.
He has a 7 figure mansion. My sister's ex-husband who was a bit of a nimrod has a 7 figure "mansion". Who fucking cares.
I am lying about my sports betting bonus hustling? WTF? I have made less than 10k over the first half of this year, including one cycle where I lost money (no payout) and one cycle where I was stiffed out of bonus money after the cycle was complete. Dude if I am going to lie, I can do better than lying about making 9k over 6 months, with all the time and effort I put into it.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
There is something really wrong with you mate. tell me some more about common sense and logic.
You have missed the point completely about the mid 7 figure mansion. Plus you left out the "mid". 7 figure mansion isn't that uncommon these days. I wouldn't even call it a mansion. Plenty of normal 7 figure homes. What dawg claims was a MID 7 figure mansion in Las Vegas. And there aren't that many of them, even less 7 years ago when he mentioned it. What he failed to realize is that such sales are public information. And there was no information about such a sale. So you know what he did, he immediately attempted to cover up saying the sale was made to a family trust. Guess what? That doesn't change anything. Sale would still be public information. And then when that didn't work, as a last resort he removed the post where he mentioned the sale...scrubbed it clean and never mentioned it again. :D:D
Now you are right...nobody cares where he lives. He probably does have an expensive house somewhere (SoCal). But the fact is he lied about this MID 7 figure mansion in Las Vegas (MID, meaning 4-6 million), just as he lied about playing blackjack with the hockey team. These are pretty nonsensical lies, made only to feed his narcistic needs. But you have to wonder if he lied about something as stupid as playing blackjack with NHL players quarantined in Canada, why should anyone believe some of these equally ridiculous gambling claims.
I get that you don't care. Power to you. I and some others do. I just don't like the guys making up gambling shit that completely defies the math and reality, whether it be Singer, Even Bob and his roulette, or Mdawg. It is a gambling forum dude. Shouldn't there be some very low bar of meeting the math and some sense of realokity and the way things work?
Now speaking of Traveling, I am heading to SoCal tomorrow for a few days of surfing. Spur of the moment trip as my bother decided it was too hot here. Big baby. I mean he has a car with AC and spends his time in air conditioned casinos and home. But whatever, I am always up for a few days of surfing and drinking.
BUT, guess what, I probably won't spend much time posting the next few days. Thats NOT what I do when I travel. Even a little trip like this. So ya'll have fun.
add-on: BTW, my BF isn't going on the trip. He works a real job <- :D and can't take off at the spur of the moment like this. So maybe I can get him to check on you all and be sure you are ok and not suffering from KJ hater withdrawl. :D
Kowabunga, dude...and be sure to post a pic of you "oiling the board" when you return...you know, to feed the trolls.
J/K...life is short, enjoy.
Implying that Redietz might be Gay because he hung out with a gay man is plain weird, especially because Anthony Curtis and Redietz were hanging out doing gambling related stuff, not sexual things. Mr. V who is straight said something like,"I hang out with Gay people because we like to do stuff together like gamble in a Casino, doesn't mean that me and the gay people I gamble with want to date each other."Quote:
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And if I were a moron like UNKewlJ, I would claim that he is pretending to travel just because he knows (how does she know that anyway, if she doesn't read any of my posts :D) that I am currently overseas.
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Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Sports betting bonuses are axels wheelhouse and he had never seen bonuses like you'd received. Your justification didn't add up. It came about soon after your bj story fell apart.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJI am lying about my sports betting bonus hustling? WTF? I have made less than 10k over the first half of this year, including one cycle where I lost money (no payout) and one cycle where I was stiffed out of bonus money after the cycle was complete. Dude if I am going to lie, I can do better than lying about making 9k over 6 months, with all the time and effort I put into it.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
There is something really wrong with you mate. tell me some more about common sense and logic.
You have missed the point completely about the mid 7 figure mansion. Plus you left out the "mid". 7 figure mansion isn't that uncommon these days. I wouldn't even call it a mansion. Plenty of normal 7 figure homes. What dawg claims was a MID 7 figure mansion in Las Vegas. And there aren't that many of them, even less 7 years ago when he mentioned it. What he failed to realize is that such sales are public information. And there was no information about such a sale. So you know what he did, he immediately attempted to cover up saying the sale was made to a family trust. Guess what? That doesn't change anything. Sale would still be public information. And then when that didn't work, as a last resort he removed the post where he mentioned the sale...scrubbed it clean and never mentioned it again. :D:D
Now you are right...nobody cares where he lives. He probably does have an expensive house somewhere (SoCal). But the fact is he lied about this MID 7 figure mansion in Las Vegas (MID, meaning 4-6 million), just as he lied about playing blackjack with the hockey team. These are pretty nonsensical lies, made only to feed his narcistic needs. But you have to wonder if he lied about something as stupid as playing blackjack with NHL players quarantined in Canada, why should anyone believe some of these equally ridiculous gambling claims.
I get that you don't care. Power to you. I and some others do. I just don't like the guys making up gambling shit that completely defies the math and reality, whether it be Singer, Even Bob and his roulette, or Mdawg. It is a gambling forum dude. Shouldn't there be some very low bar of meeting the math and some sense of realokity and the way things work?
Just more and more lies!
Lies!
The LAST thing kew's doing is going to California....wait for it....to SURF! And with his imaginary Baby Bro!! :) Imagine this scrawny-ass little fairy "oiling up a board" and then "riding the waves" with a bunch of real guys....then grabbing a seat on a beach towel while surfers take turns kicking sand in his face!
This is the typical "kew escape" every time he starts to get anxiety over so many posters calling him out for his obvious lies, and after he wakes up from his online virtual reality life realizing in a panic that he's making a fool of himself with all those meaningless long-ass posts of his.
One thing is for sure: as he tries to force himself not to post for a few days whilst everyone else chimes in about his lies and concocted life, he 100% will be reading EVERYTHING EVERYBODY IS SAYING ABOUT HIM! Even his sock PositiveVariance.
He is the Joke.
Positive Variance is most likely a real Account and not a Kewlj Sock. Your implication that Positive Variance is a Kewlj Sock is the first and ONLY implication I have seen of Positive Variance being Kewlj's Sock. Dan is usually on top of Socks and Positive Variance would have been called out, banned, and Kewlj scolded and warned to not make another Sock of PV was a Kewlj Sock. I know when I used to have Socks on here, Dan busted my Socks, banned them and I was warned if I ever made another Sock on here I would be permanently banned.Quote:
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On the smelly subject of changing socks, garnabby comes to mind with his comical ability to create and post under new socks with seeming impunity.
Not complaining: macht nichts, really: just sayin' that for whatever reason garnabby continually gets away with it.
*golf clap*
Garnabby said he and Dan had some sort of weird deal where he can make as many accounts as he wants as long as he permanently stops posting under the other Accounts. So for example he used to be Bill Yung and then permanently stopped posting under the Bill Yung Account and made a new Account and started posting under the new Account and then stopped posting under that new Account and made another new Account and then stopped posting under that new Account, made a new account, rinse and repeat.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterVKaren, as you noted the key word is "usually."Quote:
Originally Posted by Tasha
On the smelly subject of changing socks, garnabby comes to mind with his comical ability to create and post under new socks with seeming impunity.
Not complaining: macht nichts, really: just sayin' that for whatever reason garnabby continually gets away with it.
*golf clap*
Yes, that would be a weird deal, but then again it IS garnabby we're talking about...
Not that he really IS weird: but he COULD be.
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For example if you were going to rate his weirdness compared to the general public with 1 being the least weird and 10 being the most weird you might rate him at an 8
But if you were rating him compared to everyone else here it might be a 1.
So what do you think?