Update on the KJ AP experience

[Kim Lee]

name dropping of Billy Walters and Anthony Curtis. With Curtis being gay ... .

Don't forget Hunter Thompson. The important distinction is these guys became rich and famous in Las Vegas.

Anthony Curtis is not gay. He dated plenty of women and had kids with a few.

[kewlJ]

name dropping of Billy Walters and Anthony Curtis. With Curtis being gay ... .

Don't forget Hunter Thompson. The important distinction is these guys became rich and famous in Las Vegas.

Anthony Curtis is not gay. He dated plenty of women and had kids with a few.

That is not what I have heard from several different people. But whatever. I am not here to out anyone.

I don't know who Hunter Thompson is or was. Red does A LOT of Name dropping. Did he play pick up basketball with Hunter Thompson? (Joke). It is actually pretty funny that every topic that comes up Red knew someone, a sister of a friend's cousin, or someone he played pickup basketball with 50 years ago. And if it is something that requires investigation, Red and Rob both have family members in the FBI that can do so, despite that it would get them fired.

The bottom line is that if Dietz could hit at 55%, 56% let alone the cherry picked years he hangs onto for touting promotional purposes, he would have bet, won, bet, won and never looked back. That is the formula for every winning gambler/AP on every forum. There may be a period in the beginning that you have to skimp a bit to build BR to be able to move on, but everyone moves on to winning reasonable amounts. Of course everyone understands EV, standard deviation and Kelly Wagering also.

Now to tell the truth, I would be interested in what a tout type person/player made? All that touting with 800 numbers and all that racket was way before my time. Maybe he was a good tout and made a little money, who knows. But he didn't make much money as a sports bettor and that was his claim all these years.

KIM Lee, in looking at all the numbers from those publications, I think you hit it right on the head. the guy might have broke even or made a few sheckles if he had someone basically supporting him. And when you wrote that and hit it on the head, I don't even think you were aware that was exactly his case.

[kewlJ]

Actually, there is a way we can get to the bottom of this Kim Lee, without involving a phone-in interview.

You can accept Dietz's invitation to spend a few days at his GF's new house in the shadow of the speedway (bring ear plugs) and try to see what you can did up. He has boxes of cherry-picked contest results he wants to show you. You know....the kind of thing touts use to rope in new "suckers".

[kewlJ]

There is one other thing that has come up very recently that is now kind of telling. Dietz has been making posts about betting golf futures. When mickeycrimm points out that in not +EV kind of stuff, Dietz went to the "it's only lunch money" kind of reply. THAT is classic degen gambler and not true AP/winning player thinking.

I know, because I too did some -EV sports betting before I started doing this sports betting bonus chasing. NFL games and March madness basketball. And I too would say it is entertainment, and the real cost of a few $100 bets is the same as going to a movie.

Difference was, sports betting was not my primary, or even secondary supplemental gambling activity at the time. It really was entertainment. If sports betting is your big claim to winning gambling and you can't control yourself and are making -EV bets "Because it is just lunch money", it is pretty telling (damning) about your entire sports betting claims. But we are beating a long dead horse here.

[accountinquestion]

Tell us more.

[MisterV]

I don't know who Hunter Thompson is or was. Red does A LOT of Name dropping. Did he play pick up basketball with Hunter Thompson? (Joke). It is actually pretty funny that every topic that comes up Red knew someone, a sister of a friend's cousin, or someone he played pickup basketball with 50 years ago. And if it is something that requires investigation,

While it can be dangerous to assume, I have to assume that the "Hunter Thompson" referred to is the gent who blew his head off with a shotgun, ala Hemingway.

The Las Vegas connection would be he authored "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas."

[Ray Finkle]

I don't know who Hunter Thompson is or was. Red does A LOT of Name dropping. Did he play pick up basketball with Hunter Thompson? (Joke). It is actually pretty funny that every topic that comes up Red knew someone, a sister of a friend's cousin, or someone he played pickup basketball with 50 years ago. And if it is something that requires investigation,

While it can be dangerous to assume, I have to assume that the "Hunter Thompson" referred to is the gent who blew his head off with a shotgun, ala Hemingway.

The Las Vegas connection would be he authored "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas."

No shit Sherlock....

[coach belly]

Come on down to Bristol, baby! We have a casino where you can show off your expertise. Well, not really, we do know the management a little, and if you've seen the card counter scene in Casino, well....

Actually, there is a way we can get to the bottom of this Kim Lee, without involving a phone-in interview. You can accept Dietz's invitation to spend a few days at his GF's new house

Hey...I can swing by College Park on my way down to Bristol, pick the professor up and make it a road trip...we'll catch the Beltway to 66 then out to 81.

And...I mean literally pick the baby up and buckle him into a car seat for the ride down.

He looks to be about 5'2" and 130 lbs (no wonder he's such a tool)... shouldn't be a problem, I'll tuck him under one arm.

[kewlJ]

While it can be dangerous to assume, I have to assume that the "Hunter Thompson" referred to is the gent who blew his head off with a shotgun, ala Hemingway.

The Las Vegas connection would be he authored "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas."

I guess I should have known that since it was brought up by Kim Lee and he is my sock puppet, or I am his sock puppet or we are feeding each other talking points or whatever the latest stupid conspiracy shit is.

[MisterV]

While it can be dangerous to assume, I have to assume that the "Hunter Thompson" referred to is the gent who blew his head off with a shotgun, ala Hemingway.

The Las Vegas connection would be he authored "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas."

I guess I should have known that since it was brought up by Kim Lee and he is my sock puppet, or I am his sock puppet or we are feeding each other talking points or whatever the latest stupid conspiracy shit is.

Happy to explain the reference to you: I'm a bit surprised you didn't catch it.

[MisterV]

I don't know who Hunter Thompson is or was. Red does A LOT of Name dropping. Did he play pick up basketball with Hunter Thompson? (Joke). It is actually pretty funny that every topic that comes up Red knew someone, a sister of a friend's cousin, or someone he played pickup basketball with 50 years ago. And if it is something that requires investigation,

While it can be dangerous to assume, I have to assume that the "Hunter Thompson" referred to is the gent who blew his head off with a shotgun, ala Hemingway.

The Las Vegas connection would be he authored "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas."

No shit Sherlock....

I knew i...you knew it...but KJ didn't know it.

Fuck off Finkle.

[Ray Finkle]

While it can be dangerous to assume, I have to assume that the "Hunter Thompson" referred to is the gent who blew his head off with a shotgun, ala Hemingway.

The Las Vegas connection would be he authored "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas."

No shit Sherlock....

I knew i...you knew it...but KJ didn't know it.

Fuck off Finkle.

Fair enough.
But ya gotta understand, kj don't know shit.
Glad I could help....

[MDawg]

A psychiatrist could (and should) have a field day with UNKewlJ. This is part of the fascination with UNKewlJ at these forums, being able to view the inner workings of a truly diseased mind from a distance - without having to be subject to its distasteful physical presence.

The thing about KJ - if you actually read what he writes - is that he constantly echoes the words/phrases and themes of the immediately previous replies by others. As I noted, a while back, he's extremely suggestible. Not someone in control of even his own life. People don't always end up in places like Vegas by their own conscious volition. My guess would be some nut-job living from one day to the next, now on the internet. Certainly of negligible intelligence, etc.

You do everything you accuse others of when it suits your purpose: racial slurs, threats, repeating embellishments or outright lies about others over and over. Obviously you are so deluded you have no idea even who you are. I'm coming to understand you must actually believe everything you say, even the lies you tell yourself about yourself. I agree with AinQ, I don't want to chase you off the forum either, just get help. Seriously you need a therapist to help you connect with reality.

Just look at how he got tired of being ridiculed for having no education, so he decided to create a fictional college degree (but couldn't keep track of the amount of time allegedly spent in college). As if anyone could get through four years of college and have absolutely no knowledge of history or literature. The guy has quite obviously been on the streets struggling since his family threw him out.

I'm rather certain he has money from something he feels shame over

Most likely a prostitute

Pretending to be some hero AP gives him purpose and a sense of accomplishment.

[kewlJ]

Funny thing that while I can't and don't see this Dawg person's posts because he is blocked, I find it interesting that he is still posting.

See about a week ago at WoV, Michael BlueJay, an odd character in his own right, was looking for an attorney to escrow a challenge type bet. Dawg immediately said he couldn't do it (despite that he hadn't been asked) because he was going to be traveling out of the country for a month.

So here we are a week later and here is the mighty troll Dawg, trolling as usual. I realize there is internet availability all over the world now, but who makes it a top priority to troll on a forum with 10 people while traveling out of the country, whether for business or pleasure. Seriously who does that? I guess the same kind of guy that claims to be an attorney and then spends every business day working hours trolling.

It is just funny to think back how this doofus presented himself when he showed up. Sophisticated high-end attorney, high end gambler. And in the time since he has proven almost everyday he is just another internet troll. Actually a re-incarnated internet troll. These dudes just can't help expose themselves like that.

happy travels Dog.

[MDawg]

Anyway, here's the convo that WOULD happen if the UNKewl one ever did consult an attorney:


UNKewl one (in a high pitched whiny voice): I...I...need an attorney. I was doxxed! Someone posted my real name and address on the internet.

Attorney: The nerve! Let's get the bastard. I'm your man.

UNKewl one: Yes. Yes. Let's get started.

Attorney: Of course! Now...tell me a little more. How did this happen. How did whatever was posted get around? What was posted?

UNKewl one: Well my first name was posted.

Attorney: Right. That's a doxxing for sure. Now, who knows your first name?

UNKewl one: No one! Well...almost no one. Actually, I used to use my first name as part of my screen name.

Attorney. Oh. Well. What else was posted.

UNKewl one: My address! Where I live. Well, where I claim to live anyway.

Attorney: NO WAY! We'll get the doxxer for that.

UNKewl one (whiny voice goes up a pitch): Yes. Please!

Attorney: Now, you've never posted your address online have you?

UNKewl one: No. Never! But....

Attorney: But?

UNKewl one: Well, I told someone where I live a few months ago. And...and....

Attorney: What else?

UNKewl one: Someone else who is a very vocal enemy of mine once visited me at my place, so he knows too. Anyway, that's the story I put out there.

Attorney (pausing): Anyone else?

UNKewl one (whining softly): Yes. A number of others who are online know where I live.

Attorney: Hmm. So, seems like the information is already out there. Well, what about what was posted, is it still posted?

UNKewl one: No it was removed almost immediately.

Attorney: Can you even prove that whoever posted it is who you think it was?

UNKewl one: No, not exactly.

Attorney: So let me get this straight. You have freely shared your first name online. You have freely shared where you live with others online. And that information that you had no problem with sharing with random strangers online was posted, briefly, and then deleted?

UNKewl one (sulking, voice rising to a falsetto whine): I'm the victim here! I'm always the victim! People are always out to get me! I knew you wouldn't understand.

Attorney: Relax. Relax! I'll take your case.

UNKewl one (sobbing with relief): You will?

Attorney: Yes. Sure! Why not. Only....

UNKewl one: Only...?

Attorney: Only, you'll have to pay all my fees and costs up front on this one. I'll do everything I can! A five thousand dollar retainer should do it. That will at least get me started anyway.

UNKewl one: Five thousand! I'm a little short this week. I just lost $11,000. in Reno. I ended last year in the red and gave up! I haven't even been playing blackjack lately and when I do all I can do is think about this guy online and I can't concentrate on my play. I'm on a losing streak. I can't even turn any tricks lately I look like a mess, and I'm getting old. Five hundred, maybe I could come up with that, but five grand! No way.

Attorney: Okay well, just let me know. I'm here for you! [click.]

UNKewl one sulks for a while. Paces. And logs back on to post more nonsense. About MDAWG!

[AxelWolf]

name dropping of Billy Walters and Anthony Curtis. With Curtis being gay ... .

Don't forget Hunter Thompson. The important distinction is these guys became rich and famous in Las Vegas.

Anthony Curtis is not gay. He dated plenty of women and had kids with a few.

That is not what I have heard from several different people. But whatever. I am not here to out anyone. ]

I'm 99.9% positive that you heard wrong.

Unless gay guys love filrting with, chasing, hanging around with and fucking girls.

[coach belly]

With Curtis being gay ... .

Anthony Curtis is not gay. He dated plenty of women and had kids with a few.

That is not what I have heard from several different people. But whatever. I am not here to out anyone.

LOL.

Why even repeat rumors like this on a public forum unless you are trying to out someone?

You're a sick fucking tewljerk.

[AxelWolf]

Axelwolf was drunk 80% of the time I worked with him. He used to have me order his drinks for him, so that he could have two drinks at the same time. Always captain morgan.

Axelwolf's decision making skills were affected by his drinking, no question. He would be drunk, then make poor decisions, which in the end costed team money.

Funny, after him knowing me for quite some time, that he would then proceed to invest money in my plays.

[coach belly]

Funny, after him knowing me for quite some time, that he would then proceed to invest money in my plays.

It sure sounds funny.

If you stipulate that he knew you for quite some time, and invested money in your plays, then why shouldn't his recollections of your behavior be considered accurate?

Were you drunk 80% of the time he worked with you? Did you have him order his drinks for you, so that you could have two drinks at the same time? Always captain morgan?

Were your decision making skills affected by your drinking, no question? Were you drunk, then made poor decisions, which in the end costed team money?

About him investing money in your plays...why did you need investors?

[MDawg]

However in the end, I realize that I was just a piece of advantage that could easily be taken. That was the most important lesson that I learned.