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No dog in the fight, and if I had to bet I would bet Rob did play the DU against him not playing it. But no clue how anyone would buy anything other than a lot of drugs for 1.6M in cash. It’s just not feasible to hide that much cash in one transaction for a registered product. And anyone who could hide that much won’t disclose their methods here.
And I will never understand why Rob or KJ cares if the other is full of shit.
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Originally Posted by kewlJ
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Originally Posted by coach belly
You wrote above that there were others, who are the others?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
No need for you to look anything up, just name the others so we can determine if you are telling the truth.
Fuck off troll! I am not one of the Jr high boys you try to intimidate and bully before you molest them.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly
Although we have had these discussion many times and I am sure everyone knows the names that have spoken up previously, I am not providing you with shit.
It amazes me that you always seem to think you are someone. You are as relevant as a mouse fart.
Nobody is aware of anyone else that has also looked and done their own investigating and found the same info.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
You're making that up, the same way you just made up lies about me.
You're a proven and admitted liar, nothing that you write should be believed.
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Originally Posted by coach bellyNobody is aware of anyone else that has also looked and done their own investigating and found the same info.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
You're making that up, the same way you just made up lies about me.
You're a proven and admitted liar, nothing that you write should be believed.
The above by Dan Druff is exactly why no one wants to deal with coach belly and all his trolling. So just fuck off belly, you pervert.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Just for the hell of it here is Dan Druff's entire post. Makes for good reading. I have highlighted some of my favorite parts. :)
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Originally Posted by Dan Druff
In searching for the above Dan Druff quote calling coach belly a troll, I came across another of my Dan Druff favorite quotes that bears repeating. :cool:
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Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Now as to the people coach belly is inquiring about. There are 2 other members, active posters that publicly stated that they looked into Singer, and found some or most of the same information. I think everyone remembers who. I am not going to name them. Maybe they don't want to deal with smelly belly and his trolling shit all over again.
In addition, there is a 3rd member of this forum that contacted me privately. He is a low profile guy who rarely gets involved in all this back and forth, but he told me some things he found that I had not AND directed me to the specific site. I paid a few more dollars and saw that information too, some of what was a little different, that contradicted Rob's claims. I felt that particular info was not really fair for me to reveal so I have never spoken of it.
So Belly, you will get no names from me. Do your own work.
Druff is entitled to his opinion, but it's just another opinion...it's his guess, not gospel.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
The fact that he has an opinion doesn't qualify him as someone who has looked and done their own investigating of Rob Singer and found the same info that you made up out of thin air.
You constantly start shit and make up shit about plenty of members.
You don't have any names, you're making it up...lying, just like you lie about me.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Why would you think I should give you names? The people involved posted right here on this forum. Look it up yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyYou don't have any names, you're making it up...lying, just like you lie about me.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Years ago some forum members tracked down a house Rob claimed he owned and ID'ed the place via photos, then put together the title history and stuff.
Coach doesn't know about a lot of this because he's out of the loop. People sent me PMs about Rob's alleged home not being his, and this was literally years ago. Not everybody keeps coach up to date because...why would they? LOL.
Hey kewlJ, thanks for posting that Dan Druff post. I had never read that one. That kind of frames the whole thing. I'll argue the same thing with Dan that I argue with Mission. They tend to treat scamming to make money differently than scamming to make a reputation. My point is that most resources in life are non-material -- reputation, relationships, prestige, perceived expertise, and so on. Scamming people about one's expertise, skills, and knowledge is often worse than just picking pockets, is my point.
Anyway, carry on, coach.
And you'll notice, if coach really wanted to debunk what kewlJ says about Rob, coach would simply do the online investigative thing or hire a PI to do it for him. Then he'd have info and be able to post it here and directly challenge what kewlJ said he found.
But coach does not do that. Or has done it and doesn't have much to say. If you spend 10 seconds thinking about coach's arguments, it's pretty bizarre for him to argue with kewlJ and demand names of people who looked up Rob's personal info. Why wouldn't coach do the looking up himself? It makes zero sense unless coach is broke, and I don't think coach is broke. See, I said something nice about coach.
Anyway, kewlJ, thanks for the Druff summary. I hadn't seen it.
It's clear that you won't give me any names because you don't have any names, you made it all up.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Hire a PI? Yeah, right.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
You really are such a child, ditz.
Coach, you're not broke, are you? I went to bat for you not being broke in the last post. Surely if you wanted to settle this nonsense, you'd just pay for an online investigation.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyHire a PI? Yeah, right.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
You really are such a child, ditz.
Hell, I have names, and I probably still have some of the PMs. Am I giving them to coach? Why would I?Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyIt's clear that you won't give me any names because you don't have any names, you made it all up.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Coach, you fail to realize that Rob's mouth made him some enemies over the decades. I'm not even in the top 10.
If that were true, then you would post the info.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Same as the screen shot of the Cincy ticket that you promised to post if I challenged it.
Same as Singer's quote mentioning Tater.
Or the long lost Typsters and Gypsters articles you promised.
And any proof about anything else you've ever posted.
Sonny...I'll never have enough money to pay anything to investigate Rob Singer.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Why would you say that you have them if not willing to prove that you do?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Are you challenging my veracity, coach? LOL. If you send Dan $10, I'll post one of the Cincy tickets. I'll make you a deal. You send Dan $10, and I'll send Dan $500. If I don't produce at least one screenshot of a ticket worth a minimum of 50K in winnings, you keep the $500. If I do, I keep your $10. Make sure you sign the ten dollar bill, so I can frame it.
No, I wouldn't post the info, because I didn't do the research. Not my research to post.
And what are you blabbing about regarding "Tipsters or Gypsters?" Some of the standings were posted in the old Retro Road Trip thread. They are screen shots from some of the annual reports. Check with mickey. He rotated them properly after I failed to do so.
P.S. to forum devotees: I'm hoping coach isn't too broke to send Dan a sawbuck. I know it's a helluva commitment, but it's worth it to prove that I'm lying.
Ok Belly, I have tried yet again to treat you like a normal person when you are nothing but a troll and want nothing but to troll and play games. Back on ignore you go (on both forums). But before I again ignore you I will post this message on both forums, here and GF.
No one is required to prove anything on these forums under normal circumstances. I have shared my journey for years, including my results as I have gone through them, including some pretty negative runs and bad periods as well as the good. I call it the "good, the bad and the ugly". That is what blackjack card counting advantage play is....high variance, winning and losing periods. A rollercoaster. I have seen no one share the good and bad as accurately as I do. Maybe the closest is ZenKing, but he only shares the bad runs which is kind of weird. When he is winning, not a peep out of him. :rolleyes:
Anyway, people are free to believe my journey or not. But here is the thing....the math works! Before covid (before 2020), I played 60-70 thousand rounds of blackjack a year at an average advantage of about $1.25 round. A little more for double deck play, closer to $1.00/rd for 6 deck play. Do the math. That is roughly $80,000 a year and that is almost exactly what I have averaged over the years.
Now 2020 and 2021 the numbers are different. I have been playing higher stakes because I am able to get away with it during covid with the masks and other things. So I have been playing fewer rounds at a higher average per round, for roughly the same expected value. It is all about the math and playing with an advantage, slight as it is for card counting. So there is no reason for me to prove anything to you. The math works and I am not on trial. You and everyone can believe or not believe.
So here is the point where we get to Singer, Mdawg and a few others. They make claims that the math doesn't work. There is no math that explains 100's of thousands of dollars winning playing -EV. So I said earlier "under normal circumstances". Well when the math doesn't work and your claims defy the math, I believe you should explain yourself. Still no one is on trial so I don't demand it, but if you want people to believe claims that defy math, you should explain it. Of course these people don't because they can't. They come up with weird stuff like "special plays" and stop limits and gut feelings about betting up into a streak, all voodoo nonsense by the way.
So no I will prove nothing to you. The math works and explains what I do. If that is not good enough for you or anybody, that is really YOUR problem, not mine.
Now anybody publicly questioning me or anyone else, they should be the one to prove my claims false. To prove I don't play blackjack for a living, don't make what I claim, don't live where I say. And the funniest thing: a couple of these guys just did investigate and try to disprove what I claim and ended up proving the opposite that I am exactly who I say and live where I described in a nice condo. Having proved my case, they now are contradicting their own findings and investigation. Weird...just weird.
So if I wanted to troll you like you do me and others I could post "prove it", "prove it" after every single thing you say. But that is not the way it works. If the math works and the claims reasonable and backed by math, no one is required to prove anything.
So you should be asking for proof from the people who's claims defy math and defy how things work, but oddly, you defend them or stay silent. Why? Because it is all about the troll for you. That's all. You are dishonest and a troll. So back to ignore you go where you belong and most members have you.
No I am not paying anything for something that you promised to provide for the price of a forum post challenging your veracity.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
So go ahead and do what you said that you would do...it's too late to attach strings.
But if you are willing to post more than one Cincy ticket, then I'll reconsider.
You're deflecting. I haven't asked you to prove anything about you play.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
You wrote that there are others who have investigated Singer and found the same info that you did.
I asked politely, who are the others?
You wrote it is well documented that MDawg repeated a lie over 100 times.
I asked politely, what is the documentation?
You replied to reasonable questions by lying about me.
So block me if that's what you need to do to avoid telling the truth.
Oh look, coach cunt is back with his cunty questions.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly
Welcome Back Faggot!Quote:
Originally Posted by jdaewoo
Just curious, how much of that is profit, and is that profit/risk all yours or part of a group/team thing? One can have huge winning tickets however there's oftentimes many losing wagering going on in the meantime.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
I can show tons of profits via online sports accounts as well, and I don't claim to be a pro sports bettor.
There are two parts to KJ's brain, the right side and the left side. On the left side there's nothing right. On the right side there's nothing left.
-5 -4 -3 -2 -1...0...1...2...3...4...5
DO NOT Believe...Totally Believe
Okay, so I'm going to be about a -3.5 on that scale, but what difference does it make? I also don't care whether Singer did it, or not, as that has no impact on me whatsoever.
If Singer did the DUB, then Singer wins.
If Singer did not do the DUB, then Singer wins.
Either he did it and he's sitting on the seven figures he claims (or once had it, anyway) or he didn't do it and made this multi-year conversation the most talked about thing on this Forum even to this day apropos of nothing except for the inability that some of you have to just let anything go. I know, pot and kettle, but I (mostly) only argue against things that are factually wrong in a provable way.
First casino where he did it and when? Fucking difference would knowing that make? Do you think THAT casino even knows (assuming they don't still have them) whether or not they had the applicable units at the time? The next thing is it'll be a random claim that such-and-such talked to so and so at that casino and they said they never had the machines impacted by the bug.
How would anyone here know what was or wasn't available where? Even if someone here could know that, then that would mean Singer could also come to know that. Also, how would anyone prove where Singer was or was not at a specific time more than a decade ago? Are you guys even reading your own posts? If Singer was going to lie about it, then certainly he could simply go with casinos known to have had it (which would actually be many of them if you could get them to activate the feature) and he'd go with times that he remembers actually being in Vegas.
For that matter, all he would have to do is pick a casino that doesn't even exist anymore. He could say that he did it at Riviera...prove that wrong! The building doesn't even exist anymore, so how would anyone here know if the applicable Game Kings were ever there? Not to mention the fact that, other than Nestor/Kane (known), Singer is the only one I have ever heard of to claim to have done it.
And so are you back, cunt, with your cunty comments,Quote:
Originally Posted by jdaewoo
just like the slimy dick-riding cunt that you are, cunt.
Hopefully, Rob won't mind if I tell you that in the phone call he told me the last place he went to play the DUB was Silverton. He requested they turn the DUB on. They refused and one employee told him IGT sent them a memo telling them to keep the DU turned off. And I think he said the guy even showed him the memo.
I can't remember if Rob gave me any more details than that but it's easy to dead reckon that if they sent that memo to Silverton they probably sent it to all casinos. Anyways, Rob said that was the last time he attempted to put the play down.
My memory is not quite clear on this but I'm thinking Rob told me it was a couple months later he learned about Kane and Nestor in the news.
Theory: Comred has an issue to pick with Mission position mostly because he’s a paid writer who probably wasn’t a “journalism major.”
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Originally Posted by AxelWolfJust curious, how much of that is profit, and is that profit/risk all yours or part of a group/team thing? One can have huge winning tickets however there's oftentimes many losing wagering going on in the meantime.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
I can show tons of profits via online sports accounts as well, and I don't claim to be a pro sports bettor.
Obviously. Axelwolf is obviously right.
Using a select few of many long shot sports futures tickets, and posting just the ones that show a profit is a standard (maybe THE standard) scam trickeration. In fact, it's how some scamdicappers managed to get enormous publicity a few years back, highlighting their Royals to win World Series tickets. Got USA Today coverage, as I recall, and other major media exposures.
I don't do that. I have run an outfit called Integrity Sports for 40 years. As far as the Cincy tickets, they are no big deal, as they will generate a minimal profit compared to other futures I've had in the past. The moneyline hedging (Bearcats will not beat Alabama) will double or triple my money -- that's about it. So it's a nice profit, as I said, but it's nothing remarkable. Alabama beating Georgia set up a worst case scenario for me in terms of hedging. Had Auburn or Georgia beaten Alabama, the moneyline situation would be completely different.
As I mentioned, this scenario reminds me of roughly 25 years ago when I took San Diego early in the season at 100-1 to win the SB. They wound up playing San Fran as 17-point underdogs, and I had to lay -1100 to make money. Ugly. Fortunately, I knew an illegal bookmaker, Mike Stockunas (who is semi-famous) and he was kind enough to allow me to make my hedge wagers without fronting any cash, which saved me a trip to Las Vegas and lot of inconvenience.
Besides, I mentioned taking Cincy a long time ago and said they had about as much chance as my "stepping out with Elizabeth Hurley on Saturday night." I also mentioned that I blew money on Arizona State at 150-1 to win the whole shebang. So it's not like I'm touting some big accomplishment.
For big accomplishments along this vein, I suggest the Retro Road Trip thread, where my late cousin, E.R. Dietz, had a fantastic SB futures story. Some of those tickets are posted there in that thread.
More later. Axel, check out the Retro Road Trip posts with those futures tickets.
Mcap, you're dead on, except for the fact that I'd recommend Mission in a heartbeat for any writing gig I saw become available. Given that sports gambling is exploding, I'm likely to see quite a few of those opening up. Mission would be a good "math guy," clearly explaining aspects of math to sports gamblers. For example, regarding a topic recently discussed, he'd probably do a nice job explaining why civilians making futures wagers is a "bad bet" most of the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcap
I'd also recommend him as a fact checker for when academics do field work and aren't terribly familiar with the math of certain gambling ventures.
So yeah, other than that, you're correct.
For the record, I was a journalism major for two years before switching to English writing option at Penn State. Why would I be upset with Mission being a paid writer? That's the best kind! I have had paying gigs at a few newspapers, both writing and photography. A weekly newspaper column where I killed it versus the spread helped me launch Integrity Sports when I was 21.
So you don't actually have any Cincy tickets worth at least $50K, because those wagers have not been resolved...Cincy hasn't won the National Championship, nor (according to you) will they win it.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Isn't that correct?
If you bet $600 on Cincy @ 150-1, then you will be hedging $90K to win $600 - $1200, or $1200 - $2400 when you factor in your AZSt wager?
How many of your clients would split that futures windfall?
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Originally Posted by coach bellySo you don't actually have any Cincy tickets worth at least $50K, because those wagers have not been resolved...Cincy hasn't won the National Championship, nor (according to you) will they win it.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Isn't that correct?
If you bet $600 on Cincy @ 150-1, then you will be hedging $90K to win $600 - $1200, or $1200 - $2400 when you factor in your AZSt wager?
How many of your clients would split that futures windfall?
The difference between most folks reading this and coach is that for most folks it's implicit in the odds and the lines what the profit is. There's no trick to it. It's obvious.
The Arizona State wager, meanwhile, gets lumped in with all of the other futures for the year when everything is tallied up.
What's funny about coach is that he accepts my honest reporting of something that doesn't make a fortune (although I'll accept doubling of money at every opportunity), but he seems reticent to accept my honest reporting of those things that make a lot of money. Seems to be an odd bias.
For example, coach is more than willing to accept that my Bearcats at 150-1 is a profitable bust. I see it that way myself. Now how about those 2015 Texas Rangers who I had at 50-1 to win the division. Let me repeat that. I had them at 50-1 to win the division. Let me repeat that again, because you are not likely to find many teams at 50-1 to win a baseball division these days. I had the Rangers at 50-1 to win the division. I bet a baseball future maybe once every couple of years. I had the Giants to win the division and the NL this year. I made a little money. I only made a little because I didn't take them pre-season; I took them about 50 games in. I was not going to ask them to beat the Dodgers in the NL Championship.
So yes, I compare the Bearcats to the Chargers versus the 49ers way back in 1995. Required some semi-brilliant insight, but insight doesn't always work out. A profitable, well-played future, but a royal pain in the ass to hedge. There's no secret to it. You look at the odds and the lines.
Here's the most heart-breaking future I got screwed on, probably in my life. I had serious money on it as opposed to the small amount on the Bearcats.
https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...epest-cut.html
It's a good story.
You are incorrect sir...I don't accept anything that you write as honest reporting.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Your inability to answer direct questions is suspicious.
You've never asked a direct question on this forum you ignorant cunt. All you ask are cunty pseudo rhetorical questions that you think make you clever. But they don't. They make you a cunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly
You cunt.
The problem with your "AP" claim of "I'm winning because I play according to the math, and that's what the math says I should be doing" as just another of your lame excuses about why you can't/won't prove what you claim about yourself, is that a true AP requires he/she NOT be a stupid shit or dumb as a bag of rocks....and, they need to possess a decent amount of intelligence upstairs. You are the antithesis of all that--lock, stock, and barrel. I suppose those crossed wired do come into play here.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
It's clear why kew puts so much value into Dan Druff's emotional rants about everything I say. His problem stems from my opinions that he is either too broke or too selfish to get married and have his own kids (although he successfully skirted by those years) and that his numerous health issues stem from his sedentary lifestyle and penchant for sitting for hour after hour at computers playing online games and in those wonderful California flake poker rooms.
Very likely no one else here has ever purchased anything with over a million dollars cash-- or even know anyone who has (except, of course, for redietz, who always refers to a "colleague" or a"relative" that has some obscure relationship to basically any issue. With a vehicle (RV in this case) purchase, you are required to make and sign a statement identifying where the cash came from and how you got it. I stated it I won it ALL gambling, because I had the W2G's and the tax returns to back '04-'09 up.
It's not surprising that most don't understand or want to believe how I've dispersed a great deal of our retirement savings into various homes in our children's names. For one thing, you're too stupid to understand the benefit for them when we pass on. For another, most of you don't have or will ever have the resources where what happens to whatever you leave behind will much matter. Kew, you're keen of saying people HAVE to believe you win because you're an AP. Well, get that whole story right--people HAVE to believe me because I retired an aerospace industry executive after working a lucrative job (with a much greater income than normal because of certain aspects) in the federal government. And guess what--my watch collection is worth more than everything you own. That, I know. Maybe my gun collection is as well. I'm no MDawg, but I ain't you, red, max, Druff etc. Or perhaps I am, if you add them all up.
Go back and re-read when kew and max were given the opportunity to come over to see the Newell. Kew likes to re-write history. When I posted the ad, the address to come to in Gilbert, and the times I'd be available, there were zero stipulations. Just be here. But after they started coming up with excuses not to come over, I punished max with the requirement to show an id. That was a moot point anyway, because my nephew would have gotten it regardless.
Wise up people. And get over the P-A-I-N you've felt and obviously continue to experience, from my making a bundle on the DU play. Oh...who the shit cares who kew is or where he lives. Do YOU want to visit him and watch him, baby bro, and some live-in half-cooked freak jerking each other off?
You people have NO idea....the fun is in seeing critics cringe at the truth, then react.
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Originally Posted by jdaewooYou've never asked a direct question on this forum you ignorant cunt. All you ask are cunty pseudo rhetorical questions that you think make you clever. But they don't. They make you a cunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly
You cunt.
Do I have to come off the couch and shut this shit down again?...... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerThe problem with your "AP" claim of "I'm winning because I play according to the math, and that's what the math says I should be doing" as just another of your lame excuses about why you can't/won't prove what you claim about yourself, is that a true AP requires he/she NOT be a stupid shit or dumb as a bag of rocks....and, they need to possess a decent amount of intelligence upstairs. You are the antithesis of all that--lock, stock, and barrel. I suppose those crossed wired do come into play here.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
It's clear why kew puts so much value into Dan Druff's emotional rants about everything I say. His problem stems from my opinions that he is either too broke or too selfish to get married and have his own kids (although he successfully skirted by those years) and that his numerous health issues stem from his sedentary lifestyle and penchant for sitting for hour after hour at computers playing online games and in those wonderful California flake poker rooms.
Very likely no one else here has ever purchased anything with over a million dollars cash-- or even know anyone who has (except, of course, for redietz, who always refers to a "colleague" or a"relative" that has some obscure relationship to basically any issue. With a vehicle (RV in this case) purchase, you are required to make and sign a statement identifying where the cash came from and how you got it. I stated it I won it ALL gambling, because I had the W2G's and the tax returns to back '04-'09 up.
It's not surprising that most don't understand or want to believe how I've dispersed a great deal of our retirement savings into various homes in our children's names. For one thing, you're too stupid to understand the benefit for them when we pass on. For another, most of you don't have or will ever have the resources where what happens to whatever you leave behind will much matter. Kew, you're keen of saying people HAVE to believe you win because you're an AP. Well, get that whole story right--people HAVE to believe me because I retired an aerospace industry executive after working a lucrative job (with a much greater income than normal because of certain aspects) in the federal government. And guess what--my watch collection is worth more than everything you own. That, I know. Maybe my gun collection is as well. I'm no MDawg, but I ain't you, red, max, Druff etc. Or perhaps I am, if you add them all up.
Go back and re-read when kew and max were given the opportunity to come over to see the Newell. Kew likes to re-write history. When I posted the ad, the address to come to in Gilbert, and the times I'd be available, there were zero stipulations. Just be here. But after they started coming up with excuses not to come over, I punished max with the requirement to show an id. That was a moot point anyway, because my nephew would have gotten it regardless.
Wise up people. And get over the P-A-I-N you've felt and obviously continue to experience, from my making a bundle on the DU play. Oh...who the shit cares who kew is or where he lives. Do YOU want to visit him and watch him, baby bro, and some live-in half-cooked freak jerking each other off?
You people have NO idea....the fun is in seeing critics cringe at the truth, then react.
You can't shut anything down unless you stand in front of Rob Singer.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPen
What is stopping you from doing that, Crapgame?
Wise up.
I don't particularly care if Rob did it.
What fascinates me is how much Rob is emotionally invested. Everyone with half a brain has pretty much figured out the Newell was a joke but was it a joke? Was that actually Rob's sincere attempt at trying to be someone? Given his pages long defensive explanations one really starts to realize Rob wasn't joking with the Newell.
Best just let the old man save face.
Nice Newell, Rob. Nice. Real nice.
Save your keystrokes DOPE.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyYou can't shut anything down unless you stand in front of Rob Singer.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPen
What is stopping you from doing that, Crapgame?
Wise up.
KJ is in OSN and Rob isn't. Fair enough to say who is legit and who isn't.
Possibly Hobey's (northern Reno/Sun Valley) in early July of 2020 Mickey.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post110262
Plenty more where that came from, shitstain.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPen
And in the meantime, you'll keep stroking tewlj.
Are you serious with this crap? Throughout the telling of this fantasy (that Rob stole), including just 2 months before this post in the interview with Shackleford, Rob told us how he spent 10 years hiding under the bed waiting for the statute of limitations to run out. He was so scared he couldn't even tell his wife or family. Remember that?Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayPossibly Hobey's (northern Reno/Sun Valley) in early July of 2020 Mickey.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post110262
And now in July 2020, he basically live posts including dates and time of his committing a crime, in which he reveals he knows was a crime? Give me a break.
You people that have this weird need to worship Rob and hope his bullshit is true might be sicker than he is. Get a grip. Join reality before it is too late.
This is simply an old, irrelevant man, desperately seeking attention.
I think July 2020 was well after he and I had the phone conversation where he told me about the Silverton.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayPossibly Hobey's (northern Reno/Sun Valley) in early July of 2020 Mickey.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post110262
I've forgotten a lot about all this. Was maxpuke, at one time, begging Rob to put him on a DUB machine? No wonder he's got it in for Rob. He's pissed Rob didn't make him rich.
You must have missed where I wrote possibly.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJAre you serious with this crap? Throughout the telling of this fantasy (that Rob stole), including just 2 months before this post in the interview with Shackleford, Rob told us how he spent 10 years hiding under the bed waiting for the statute of limitations to run out. He was so scared he couldn't even tell his wife or family. Remember that?Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayPossibly Hobey's (northern Reno/Sun Valley) in early July of 2020 Mickey.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post110262
And now in July 2020, he basically live posts including dates and time of his committing a crime, in which he reveals he knows was a crime? Give me a break.
You people that have this weird need to worship Rob and hope his bullshit is true might be sicker than he is. Get a grip. Join reality before it is too late.
This is simply an old, irrelevant man, desperately seeking attention.
Yes I believe Max requested that.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmI think July 2020 was well after he and I had the phone conversation where he told me about the Silverton.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayPossibly Hobey's (northern Reno/Sun Valley) in early July of 2020 Mickey.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post110262
I've forgotten a lot about all this. Was maxpuke, at one time, begging Rob to put him on a DUB machine? No wonder he's got it in for Rob. He's pissed Rob didn't make him rich.
Here's a couple certainties: There's plenty of DUB inventory still around and the play is extremely easy to execute.
Each of us is free to decide who we think put the play down or we can decide we are uncertain. So I guess that's four certainties.
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Originally Posted by tableplayYes I believe Max requested that.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmI think July 2020 was well after he and I had the phone conversation where he told me about the Silverton.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
I've forgotten a lot about all this. Was maxpuke, at one time, begging Rob to put him on a DUB machine? No wonder he's got it in for Rob. He's pissed Rob didn't make him rich.
I posted the content of the PM. Note Singer never posted his end. Mr. Secret Agent Man.....lol
Fuckin' idiots.
No one needs to make me rich. I am doing just fine. Anyone that knows me knows that I don't ask about plays and don't talk about plays much. I don't want to know. Because;
A. I probably know about it already
B. I don't even have the motivation to work all that is available to me.
C. If someone does tell me something I would feel obligated to return the same or greater value.
D. My criteria for what constitutes a play is a lot different from a lot of people.
I am not even interested in most double jackpot, 4OAK, tax day, or most any other one off type promotions. No matter the value. Not that I haven't or won't participate if the mood strikes me but really I could give two shits. You're definitely not going to find me chasing .5-2% VP edges or crossing state lines for some hobo vulture plays....RIP
I prefer the color gray..... you can tell that from the color of my bath tile,,,,, lol
More paranoid delusions from KJ.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJAre you serious with this crap? Throughout the telling of this fantasy (that Rob stole), including just 2 months before this post in the interview with Shackleford, Rob told us how he spent 10 years hiding under the bed waiting for the statute of limitations to run out. He was so scared he couldn't even tell his wife or family. Remember that?Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayPossibly Hobey's (northern Reno/Sun Valley) in early July of 2020 Mickey.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post110262
And now in July 2020, he basically live posts including dates and time of his committing a crime, in which he reveals he knows was a crime? Give me a break.
You people that have this weird need to worship Rob and hope his bullshit is true might be sicker than he is. Get a grip. Join reality before it is too late.
This is simply an old, irrelevant man, desperately seeking attention.
One can almost FEEL the discomfort, irritation, the sweat, and the squirming anger that's affecting kew with every silly word and lie he posts when referring to me. He comes unglued because he knows his house of cards has been crumbling for such a long time. And THIS is exactly why he does not have the temperament or comprehensive discipline or structure to grind away as a "winning" bj "pro". Learn how to act like an adult kew, stop humiliating yourself, and if you can start being honest then you won't let this stuff constantly tear you up. You are as big a whiny-ass baby as there's ever been on the gambling forums.
The last casino I played the DU play during my 5-1/2 year run was in fact what mickey said. I've found it at two Indian casinos since and left both of them promptly due to the uncertainty of tribal law. Hobey's was the last casino I searched for a working machine, found one, and made a profit off of. The place is a dump in a neighborhood that would make Sam's Town location seem like Genoa, Nv.
You guys wear me out. I am just growing so tired of this crap. All the trolling and game playing from people who don't even believe what they are saying and who they are defending. It seems to be that is what 60 and 70 year old men do now. Go on the internet and insist that the earth is flat. And anyone that argues that it isn't you attack and call names. I mean seriously...THAT is what you find entertaining? :confused:
Maybe in 30 years I will think it amusing. Right now I just think it lame.
The one with the most fantastical claims is you. It's amazing how much you think you know about other people's lives. It's all a delusion.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
No, YOU are delusional Crimm. You have seriously lost your mind. I don't know if during your heart attack there was a period of oxygen deprivation to your brain, or it was decades of alcohol abuse that has come back to effect you or just regular getting old and normal mental decline, but you have very quickly declined I am sad to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
I know about certain people because it gets to a point that I look them up. It is 2021 in case you aren't aware and anyone can look anyone up. I get to a point that I hate the misleading and lying these want-a-be's do, and it is disrespectful to the players that actually work hard at playing with an advantage and making a living to have these fake usually losing players continually for years feed fiction stories about all their winning using "special plays" and rabbit's feet and progression wagering, stop limits, or stealing a story from the news.
You and others may think that funny, entertaining....I don't. I think it absolutely pathetic, that a losing degenerate gambler, a lifetime degenerate gambler, who lost all or most of his money and is bitter about how his final days are playing out, not only lies with these fantastical stories, but attacks most legitimate advantage players because they succeeded at what he dreamed about. I don't think it is cute or funny or entertaining. And you aren't doing him any favors by supporting and enabling him.
Kewl, you take yourself too seriously. Please. Step back and take some deep breaths. Who cares who Rob attacks? Everyone just laughs at him except you who take him too seriously. He's kinda funny TBH. Rob would probably be far more fun to hang out with than you, even if he believes his own bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
"enabling him" !? He isn't selling systems. He's just a troll and a ne'er do well or some would say ne'er newell.
N'er Newell.
I like that.
Kew, you somehow never come off as even remotely intelligent when you post these rants about me. "Lifetime losing gambler"? You saw one of my passports-I've lived mostly overseas for the majority of my working career. Oops--thats gonna bother a go-nowhere/do-nothing like you. Sorry. And have you ANY clue how much retirement income--most of which YOU CANT TOUCH UNTIL YOU'RE 55 unless you have a verifiable hardship-causing life event--accumulates when BOTH spouses have high-paying jobs in the aerospace industry? I know you don't want me to be a well-off retiree because it hurts, after all the deserving insults I paste you with. And how is it we can travel so often? If you ever came over here or to S. Dakota to see how we live, our 4 vehicles, my Harley, and all the watches & guns I've collected, you'd feel so inadequate.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJNo, YOU are delusional Crimm. You have seriously lost your mind. I don't know if during your heart attack there was a period of oxygen deprivation to your brain, or it was decades of alcohol abuse that has come back to effect you or just regular getting old and normal mental decline, but you have very quickly declined I am sad to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
I know about certain people because it gets to a point that I look them up. It is 2021 in case you aren't aware and anyone can look anyone up. I get to a point that I hate the misleading and lying these want-a-be's do, and it is disrespectful to the players that actually work hard at playing with an advantage and making a living to have these fake usually losing players continually for years feed fiction stories about all their winning using "special plays" and rabbit's feet and progression wagering, stop limits, or stealing a story from the news.
You and others may think that funny, entertaining....I don't. I think it absolutely pathetic, that a losing degenerate gambler, a lifetime degenerate gambler, who lost all or most of his money and is bitter about how his final days are playing out, not only lies with these fantastical stories, but attacks most legitimate advantage players because they succeeded at what he dreamed about. I don't think it is cute or funny or entertaining. And you aren't doing him any favors by supporting and enabling him.
And therein lies the glaring difference between how YOU'RE able to process things vs. how mickey processes things: mickey doesn't care if I'm homeless or a billionaire. He bases his beliefs on his long time experience trading barbs with me and from his accompanying knowledge of what he's gleaned about me over the years. YOU, being the envious, conflict-loving drama queen that you are, are incapable of analyzing anything without making the alleged conclusion fit your scenario of hate and revenge, and "I hope he really doesn't have what he says he does!" And you CERTAINLY are unable to comprehend how and why others do different things to mask and benefit certain aspects of their lives, while simultaneously being totally lost when trying to decipher anyone other than yourself.
I'm not sure how such a weak, chaos-loving person like you can live with yourself. You know your life's a mess. You really have little to look forward to. You understand that someone with those crossed wires who's also tried to fake their own death and who's really not the healthiest specimen to walk the streets REGARDLESS OF AGE, self-defines everything about why you display an embarrassing lack of self-confidence. And your concocted internet forum life has gotten you WHERE?
At this rate you will not see 50. Why would you want to anyway?
Look Grampa, I don't give a rats ass what you did or didn't do for a living. This is a gambling forum and I care only about your claims related to gambling. Hell, Mdawggy was born into a very wealthy family and is now a lawyer....one of those ambulance chasing personal attorneys, but an attorney never the less. No one is disputing he has and comes from money, only that his gambling claims are a bunch of baloney. And the same with you.
Personally, I am not taking you word on any high paying aerospace careers simply because you have lied about everything else, including phony pictures of an RV that you did not own, which you recently admitted you did not own. What did you say???... "it was just like the one you owned". :D Plus the high paying aerospace career for both you and your wife for all those years doesn't jive with the bankruptcies, evictions and legal judgements on your publicly available records, nor the lack of real estate owned.
But like I said, I really don't care. I only care that your gambling related claims are all bogus.
As for me, don't worry about me...I am doing fine. :cool:
You are using the plural here "bankruptcies, evictions and legal judgements."Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
I found evidence of ONE bankruptcy. I'm thinking it was 1996 at least 4 years before Rob started using the progressive system.
I found ONE judgement which I think was for about $800? Thats like a small claims court thing isn't it. Pretty small potatoes.
I don't recall finding any evictions.
I found absolutely nothing about food stamps.
I did find a speeding ticket in Oregon. What a dastardly criminal act. KJ, could you give us a dissertation on what a dastardly criminal act doing 75 in a 65 is? LOL!
Anyways, you have alleged multiple bankruptcies, evictions and judgements. Could you give us some evidence so we can verify your information is correct?
Mickey you are going to great lengths to defend and fight Rob's battle this morning. If there is an eviction, legal judgement and bankruptcy in the record it is quite right to use these things in the plural. You are not saying there is multiple of each. You are saying as a group, there are 3 of these things and that makes it plural.
But since you are trying to make an issue, I will clarify that I saw 1 of each of these things. I believe the eviction and legal judgement were related. First an eviction and then a legal case brought for the money owed and the judgement sometime later. I believe somebody posted the actual legal judgement and if I am not mistaken it was in the 2000's, either in the period Rob claims to have made hundreds of thousands from his progression system or the period he now claims he played the double-up bug.
I really don't care about this kind of thing other than it asks the question, why would a guy making hundreds of thousands or millions playing video poker, who also claims that him and his wife had high paying careers before that, not be able to pay his rent and be evicted and later go to court over $800 (actually I think it was $947 or something like that), but the point is people making all the money Rob claimed, from multiple sources don't fight and lose an amount like that and have it stain their record and credit score etc.
Yeah I know Rob had all sorts of stupid answers like he wasn't in the market for a house so didn't care about his record or credit score. But yet he claimed to purchase a 1.6 million RV. Mickey, I don't so much care about that stuff, other than the timeline is right smack in the middle of his 'riches' part of his "rags to riches story and that doesn't mesh.
Now Bankruptcy, 1996. Guess what that was 2 years into the period Rob says he tried to play as an AP and failed. No surprise. Lots of losing player degenerate gambler's lose all their money, can't pay their bills and have to file for bankruptcy. What makes that strange is that it came after years, decades of this high paying job that both he and his wife had for decades. People that have high paying jobs for decades don't have to file bankruptcy because they can't pay their bills.....well unless they are a degenerate losing gambler. And forget this crap about Bankruptcy being a tool to build wealth. That is Singer bullshit. He lost all his money gambling! I am not really here to judge him, but for God's sakes look at these timelines. That tells the story not his ridiculous claims.
My issue with Singer wasn't all this stuff. It was the claims involving Progression wagering, special plays, stop limits and other voodoo concepts that defy math. That is what I was interested in challenging, but unfortunately when you look into things you see everything else that is contradicted.
Again, I don't care about Singer's so called story, other than the part with the claims that defy math. But unfortunately, looking into it, anyone with half a brain and a little bit of objectivity will see the whole story. And that story is:
In the late 90's Rob left whatever job he was working (maybe it was aerospace, maybe it was something much less), to attempt to be a video poker AP. Over 6 years he failed and lost all his money filing bankruptcy in that time.
Next he came up with this fantastical story of winning against all odds, against the math using progression wagering and "special players". The claim was 10 years of this. He wrote a book. (or was it 2 books?). He wrote for free a gambling column, trying to gain credibility and boost book sales which never amounted to much.
He went with this story for some 15 years, fighting with people like you on various forums that pointed out the inconsistencies of his story. If you were the first to make it personal with name calling that is on you, but going back and reading, everything you challenged about his claims and math was legit and warranted.
After 15 years when there was no one left that believed his ridiculous claims, he did an about face, stole an actual story of gambling "success" (I guess) and changed all the timelines to accommodate this new story. Changed everything he had claimed for 2 decades to accommodate this new stolen story.
And now, with whatever retirement income he has (surely not what he claims) he lives out his final years bouncing around between his kids and spends summer in a small camper in Tahoe and still spends his time pushing these long proven ridiculous claims.
THAT is the story of the great Rob Singer. You know it. Everyone knows it. But for some reason there are people that find the whole caper, the whole 20 year running lie and troll amusing and entertaining and admire the guy and his lies.
It's been just as much fun watching kew get skewered by tater and mdawg over on GF, because he just can't help himself write multiple long-winded essays in order to try and end the hurt over it all. And then of course the forum gets treated to several uncharacteristically long posts by the weirdo trying everything he can to help kew walk lightly in his loafers without stepping on any more sharp objects.
However, as slick as the kew team thinks they are in all facets of life, it was all let out of the bag today. Apparently and of course as concocted by kew, a LV book publisher is offering up front money for kew to write a blackjack book! Yes, you read that right. When no one in the history of gambling books has ever been paid money in advance to write another book on gambling (no, not Dancer, Singer, or anyone) and this is as spoken to me by Anthony Curtis, Ken Justin and Howard Schwarz. But because kew wants so much to be perceived as being oh-so-special, he produces yet another lie just to sound important. Problem is, not everyone is as dense as him or redietz.
Try again, idiots :)
You’re wrong on no advance payments in the history of gambling writing Robbochio. Try Josh Axelrod writing about it IN HIS CARD COUNTING BOOK you old dummy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
LOL. Rob, has it occurred to you that you should probably tone down the proclamations when you don't really know what you're talking about?
"When no one in the history of gambling books has ever been paid money in advance to write another book on gambling (no, not Dancer, Singer, or anyone) and this is as spoken to me by Anthony Curtis, Ken Justin, and Howard Schwarz."
Now think about what you just wrote there. It's idiotic.
I'm in the middle of a promotional online poker tournament, so I'll leave people to debate why it's idiotic. Any guesses? And I will finish this post after I get eliminated.
See, when you post something like this, not only are you lying about no advances, but you're lying about who said what to you. It's just a cavalcade of lying.
Now let me be precise here. Unless you're ridiculously famous, you usually have to furnish an outline and a sample chapter or two to get an advance. People don't say, "Here's an advance" without knowing what they're getting into. That's the way advances work.
I guess Rob doesn't know how advances work. Not surprising.
Obviously kew can't produce any evidence of anything because he only wishes he could discredit me since I ridicule him so truthfully. And he never listens because like all queers and libtards, if it doesn't fit their narrative they they have to make up their own facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmYou are using the plural here "bankruptcies, evictions and legal judgements."Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
I found evidence of ONE bankruptcy. I'm thinking it was 1996 at least 4 years before Rob started using the progressive system.
I found ONE judgement which I think was for about $800? Thats like a small claims court thing isn't it. Pretty small potatoes.
I don't recall finding any evictions.
I found absolutely nothing about food stamps.
I did find a speeding ticket in Oregon. What a dastardly criminal act. KJ, could you give us a dissertation on what a dastardly criminal act doing 75 in a 65 is? LOL!
Anyways, you have alleged multiple bankruptcies, evictions and judgements. Could you give us some evidence so we can verify your information is correct?
How is it kew, that you're able to find supposedly unflattering items yet you can't locate my or my wife's work histories? I can understand if you can't locate my work in the Federal Government from years ago. But you mean nowhere shows my wife's 33years at Honeywell as an engineer, or my VP years at Northrop-Grumman? Is that too hard...or is it simply too tough to take? Yup, because once you discover all those facts, you'll see why we were able to buy all the houses and vehicles we have been doing by transferring the money to our kids.
Well, I guess I'd be mixed up also if I had to live like you do and then have to put up with the zingers I lay upon you! But ENJOY IT--because you most probably won't last long with all those health issues.
Oh--and how many times are you gonna keep lying about "I only care about Singer's gambling claims"? when not only do I have permanent rent free status inside your previously empty head--I OWN it!
Rob, your comment about advances is so blatantly WRONG, and to insist that a bunch of gambling publishers backed you up -- it's ludicrous. It's goddamn stupid.
I am no expert on gambling publishing (or publishing in general) at all, but I know what you wrote is trash.
Why do you insist on pretending you are expert regarding things about which you know very little?
By the way, for the record, I was contacted by an actual publishing agency (not a vanity press or similar junk) about doing a book when I was a young man after my essay, "Scientists, Gamblers, and Magicians" was published. I was an idiot and wanted to do the book my way as opposed to a more commercial way, so I wound up killing the project. Ah, the stupidity of youth.
Okay, I'm out. That hurt. A guy went for a straight with a three-way all-in (the proper thing to do with three, but not two opponents) and caught it. My top two pair got bludgeoned.
I don't read very many gambling books. Rob seems to be fixated on Huntington Press kind of publishing, which is small. Many semi-established writers, even if they write primarily for magazines, get advances for writing gambling books. Off the top of my head, I'll give you two obvious examples -- James McManus, a professor at the Art Institute of Chicago, undoubtedly received an advance for "Positively Fifth Street."
Todd may know him. Okay, I verified the advance. McManus used his advance to buy into a satellite tournament, where he qualified for the Main Event.
Another off the top of my head example. Larry Merchant's book, The National Football Lottery. Obviously about sports betting. Great book. He took his 10K advance and used it to gamble on the NFL with legal and illegal books around the country.
Now those are two obvious, famous examples of people who on record received and used their advances in the writing of their books.
So Rob was -- lying. I mean, what other word is there? Why he insists on proclaiming shit he knows nothing about is beyond me.
By the way, both of these books are great. Buy them. Read them. You'll learn something, and they are very well written.
You're so full of shit red. Everything I said is exactly the way it went down. I could easily tell you were only doing what you do when you get caught lying about the many things you lie about: you automatically deflect to having this uncanny knowledge about someone or something related to the subject. Then you show how shaken you are using a weak, unsupported allegation, by immediately posting almost non-stop about the same subject IN YET ANOTHER CLOWN-AUTHORED POST! And you can call those guys I talked to if you have the gonads to.... if they'll even talk to a quack like you.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
So go ahead--produce proof on ANYONE who's ever received an offer of an advance to write their first ever gambling book (insert multiple belly laughs!)
First of all -- LOL -- Rob is trying to move goalposts. Now it's "an offer of an advance to write their first-ever gambling book." A few posts back it was "when no one in the history of gambling books has ever been paid money in advance to write another book on gambling." Now, see, these are two different things. Quite different.
But let's see if it makes a difference. I suspect it won't.
Let's take James McManus first. Was "Positively Fifth Street" his FIRST gambling book? Why yes, it was. He followed it up six years later with "Cowboys Full: The Story of Poker."
So McManus got an advance for his FIRST gambling book. I strongly suspect he also got an advance for his SECOND gambling book. Now I could be wrong on that, Rob. What do you think?
Now let's examine Larry Merchant. It turns out The National Football Lottery was his FIRST gambling book. And he received an advance. He used the advance to gamble on the NFL and reported the results in the book.
Correct me if I'm incorrect, but I guess what I just did was I "produced proof of ANYONE who's ever received an offer of an advance to write their first ever gambling book."
Both of these authors received advances for their first gambling books. And these guys were just off the top of my head, Rob. I guess when you've been gambling as long as I have, you tend to remember a thing or three.
Rob, you got caught lying again. Just ridiculous. Now why don't you man up and say that you were completely wrong?
Belly laugh. Belly laugh. Belly laugh. Need I go on?
Hey Mickey! Hey Axel! Hey Max! (Hey Frank K, sorry you missed out). Hey AP's everywhere! There's a publisher who's willing to hand you over AN ADVANCE TO A FIRST-TIME GAMBLING BOOK WRITER!!
It's gotta be true! I mean, kew said it's happened to HIM, and none other than REDIETZ says it's so.
Just name your figure :)
You know what I meant red, ESPECIALLY after we both read kew's claim. And typical of a weirdo like you, when I used the word "another" it referred to gambling books in general and not anything follow-on by a single author. BTW: I'm a gambling book author. I'M also a follow-on gambling book author. Kinda tough to handle, right? Just ask your half-baked buddy.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
One more thing: please produce evidence supporting how much and who gave those FIRST-TIME gambling book writers their advances. What's that? AP's and sports bettors don't have to support anything they say because of the math? Hahahahaha!
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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
I know this may come as a shock to you, Rob. But when I mentioned McManus and Merchant, people probably googled them. So the idea that I was lying is going to require my hijacking and changing Wikipedia and all google references to these two writers.
And those two were, as I said, off the top of my head. I didn't need to do research to come up with them.
Here's a thought, Rob -- tell the truth on occasion.
Anyone interested should just google McManus and Merchant. I imagine the publishers gave them their advances. That is how it generally works.
Rob got caught lying through his teeth again. And then he unravels. As usual.
I was surprised when I googled Merchant that The National Football Lottery was his only listed book on Wikipedia. Merchant had written for newspapers and Sports Illustrated, so I assumed he'd done other books. But it seems like The National Football Lottery was not only his first gambling book. It may have been his only book.
This guy Singer is wrong about almost everything he writes. It is almost scary to see someone be wrong so often.
Someone else brought up a book on another forum so reiterated the book deal I had 3 or 4 years ago, that I spoke about HERE at the time. Yes I did receive a small advance to write the book from a publisher here in LV. I worked on it for about 6 months, covering my early years playing Atlantic City and first couple years in Las Vegas. I realized I was not going to be able to finish and come up to date because that would be too fresh and place me in jeopardy and being I was still an active player and intend to be for a few years to come that current just wasn't going to work.
I also was having a issue with the publisher. I wanted the book to be free to almost anyone. While I knew that really wasn't possible, I really wanted a free downloadable option. The publisher wasn't having any of that. I thought we could settle on a $1.99 download fee or something in that range and was told that is impossible. That there is a weird structure set up that the publisher made no money unless the download fee was more than $5 and didn't make enough money for it to be worth his while unless the download fee was $9.99 or more. I really didn't want that. With such a limited target audience, I wanted a book that would be available to anyone practically free.
In the end between the financial issue and me not feeling I could come up to date and include anything recent we agreed to cancel the deal, I repaid him the small advance money and even a penalty for breaking the deal and we went our separate ways with some bad feelings between us, mainly on his end. It took him about a month to replace me with another card counter and his story and that book has been out for several years now. :rolleyes:
But none of this is new. It was all discussed right here 3-4 years ago. I guess it is just new to Rob because of his dementia. Hey Rob, I guess with your dementia, you make new friends every day. It's the same people from yesterday, but new to you. :D
And as for Mickey, Axel, Maxpen, well Axel and MaxPen barely speak of anything they EVER do, so it is hard to see them sharing their story in a book, although it would be a very interesting read to me. Mickey's story would be absolutely incredible if he ever decided to write it and have it published. We all have the same issue in that a gambling type book has a very limited specific audience, but Mickey's story would resonate wider than most.
Mickey's story would make a fine bio.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
As I mentioned elsewhere, your story would make a fine bio. It checks all the current boxes and then some. You'd just need some type of closure act -- MDawg gets exposed and blows a wad doing his progressive thing in front of an audience he doesn't know is there. You get doxed and live happily ever after when your book contract turns into a film deal. Don't laugh. Affleck and Damon are into this stuff. There's all kinds of political resonance when a gay card counter makes good despite conservative scam artist video poker and baccarat players trying to take him down.
There is one other aspect to the timing of my book "interest" that if I am being honest, I should mention. My interest peaked immediately after I was banned at WoV for the first time. I'll distinguish the "first time" because although there has not yet been a second time, I think many of us suspect there will someday. :D
So my interest peaked at that particular time because at the end when we got up to date, I wanted to get into the gambling forums, and forum wars and particularly my view on some of these forum administrators, that abandon the math for which they made their name in favor of forum traffic and allowing nonsense they know is BS. Something I still have an issue with today. I thought it would be my platform to say my piece, including just what I thought of them for that position.
That probably would have opened the door to legal trouble and law suits, so I am sort of glad I didn't go that route. Nothing good could have come from it. I have been able to express my views on that here and other forums, and know that those I wanted to know those views read them. ;)
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Originally Posted by Rob.SingerYou know what I meant red, ESPECIALLY after we both read kew's claim. And typical of a weirdo like you, when I used the word "another" it referred to gambling books in general and not anything follow-on by a single author. BTW: I'm a gambling book author. I'M also a follow-on gambling book author. Kinda tough to handle, right? Just ask your half-baked buddy.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
One more thing: please produce evidence supporting how much and who gave those FIRST-TIME gambling book writers their advances. What's that? AP's and sports bettors don't have to support anything they say because of the math? Hahahahaha!
Just for the record, Rob, I recall the Merchant advance, which he discusses in the book as it's a pivotal ongoing bankroll, at 10K. I'm not going to google check it -- it's possible it was 20K, but I seem to remember 10K. The McManus advance -- you'd have to read the book. It is mentioned in there, but I don't remember it. The McManus advance is mentioned on Wikipedia.