Bob Dietz' Coming Appeararance On PokerFraudAlert Radio

redietz, in all sincerity, are you going to be on PFA, and if so, when? We're wasting too much time Jack fucking around discussing this and I think you would agree.

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

OMG!!!!! STOP THE DI TALK!!!!!! It's been discussed ad nauseam. If it's possible, it's not worth it, and even if it were only one in a billion people, maybe can do it.

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that's funny - because in the below post you seemed to wanna hear more about it - anyway I'm done -

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

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Originally Posted by Kim Lee

I faded Stanford Wong's dice action, and would do it again.

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Please, do tell. ... We bough a 100% real craps table.

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Originally Posted by Half Smoke

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Originally Posted by Kim Lee

I faded Stanford Wong's dice action, and would do it again.

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per the link Wong has backed off his claim that craps can be beaten with dice influencing -

but I don't see how Kim Lee's fading of Wong's dice action would be advantageous - the HE is still there - maybe he just did it for fun - that would be my guess

"And finally, in April 2011, in a tacit admission that he had been wrong in believing casino craps could be legitimately beaten, Wong removed craps from the list of “Beatable Casino Games” on his popular BJ21.com website, and also removed the “Craps” discussion page from his site, as well. In addition, a few months later, in October 2011, in an interview on Bob Dancer’s popular KLAV radio program, “Gambling With an Edge,” Wong admitted that for players “who want to get serious about making money in casinos, craps is not the game to play.” That pretty much says it all."


https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/gamb...lKZDMXMJRCnon3

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I think kim lee meant he was playing the role of the house so was betting against wong

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Originally Posted by Half Smoke

that's funny - because in the below post you seemed to wanna hear more about it - anyway I'm done -

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

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Originally Posted by Kim Lee

I faded Stanford Wong's dice action, and would do it again.

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Please, do tell. ... We bough a 100% real craps table.

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Once Alan's name was brought up, I got flashbacks and changed my mind.

REDietz should appear on the program. If he has indeed done this all his adult life it seems like he would be a great candidate for the show.

We have lying male prostitutes like UNKewlJ who pretend that they do this, and others who claim they do this part time or have done it for part of their lives, but REDietz is the real deal!

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

There's been talk about Kim Lee being KJ or some nonsense. I haven't paid much attention to that aspect.

This post and some others certainly don't sound like KJ to me.

So why the strong feeling it's KJ? I don't know, but Kim Lee could be sharing his account with KJ, or it could be his brother, or someone else, I suppose.


Has/Does Kim Lee have an account at WOV?

If so, I would wonder if someone has access to information related to IP addresses, and there happened to be some correlation with past IP addresses between KL and KJ.
I don't know, I'm just throwing that out there as food for thought.

I'll let you guys figure it out, as I really don't care beyond this post.

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OMG! Enough with the Kim Lee / KJ connection! That was something invented by the trolls. Kim Lee is on the East coast. I am in Vegas. Already confirmed by Dan Druff. And no Kim Lee, considered an expert by many for decades, is not / was not / did not turn his account over to a card counter type AP like me. :D

You want a connection between Kim Lee and myself besides that we are friends? Here it is. We both came to the same conclusion regarding Bob Dietz and his 40 year sports betting, which turned into a sports scam-dicapping racket. And it is the same conclusion YOU Axelwolf and Mickey and every other AP and real gambler has come to. It is NOT fair to Kim Lee, a knowledgeable gambling expert to keep linking him to me with made up troll accusations.

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Now I want to go back to post 629, where when asked to explain Kelly for a 56% winning players, Redietz came up with Kelly Doesn't apply because the 56% is in the past and is no reflection on what the bettor will do in the future.

So why then has redietz been showing perspective clients and investors these cherry-picked past results then all these years? Does anyone think he said "well here is a year I hit 56%, but that means nothing about the future"? :D:D

No what he tried to sell them with those cherry-picked results is that he would keep right on hitting at 56% or better.

And I also don't believe that 56% number. Not as a cumulative accurate total. Not as an Average. Maybe a few select (cherry-picked) years.

If Bob Dietz had a 40 year run where his cumulative win rate was 56%, he would not have needed clients or investors. He would have bet, bet, bet and be many-times over millionaire. Instead, what we have is a guy on an obscure internet forum, telling everyone he was one of the sports bettor/handicapping greats.

KimLee is an idiot if he associates with a sociopathic liar like UNKewlJ. You will note that he has distanced himself from the UNKewl one lately, doesn't even acknowledge her.

Would you?

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

kewlJ is basically the Boy Who Cried Wolf of these AP forums. He has lied so many times that it's impossible to believe any stories he tells

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UNKewlJ has been banned, branded a liar, or both, by forum Admin from/at every forum at which she has participated.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Kim Lee is on the East coast. I am in Vegas. Already confirmed by Dan Druff. And no

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while I do believe Dan is correct and I dont think you guys are the same person.

Dan Druff can't say with 100% certainty since there are ways to get around this stuff. Do you think I'm risking many thousands of dollars at online casinos with multiple accounts without getting around this stuff?

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Originally Posted by MDawg

KimLee is an idiot if he associates with a sociopathic liar like UNKewlJ. You will note that he has distanced himself from the UNKewl one lately, doesn't even acknowledge her. Would you?

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Hound, if you and KJ were in a rowboat and it started to sink I'd throw him a life ring and ask him to beat you unconscious with the oar.

Your ceaseless trolling is tiresome, as is your schtick.

Oh and one other thing. Why is it that almost no one in the sports betting world knows of or has even heard of Bob Dietz. I mean 40 years of his greatness?

I have met only a few (very few) blackjack player card counter APs, and a few more know who I am or think they know who I am. But almost every known blackjack card counter type AP knows me from forums. Has read what I have written about my blackjack play and journey, and almost no one doubts it. The forum trolls doubt it. Few real players do.

None of these known players say, what he claiming is not the way it works, Not the way the math works. At most a few wonder how I have been able to achieve such longevity, which I have tried to explain and share as much as I could, because THAT is really what card counting is about in the 2020' s finding ways to be able to play. The math has been the math for 75 years. Longer really, but known about for 75 years.

So all the real players know me, or know of me. (may not like me but they know who I am). But if you go to any sports betting platform and ask real and known sports bettors about Bob Dietz (or redietz) they will say "who?" :D

Maybe we can change that with this interview. get off the pot Dietz! Set a date and let's get this interview done with knowledgeable people being afforded the opportunity to ask the pertinent questions. If you are who you say, one of the great sports bettors of the last half century, and are now retired, you deserve that be known. Let's get it done!

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Originally Posted by MDawg

KimLee is an idiot if he associates with a sociopathic liar like UNKewlJ. You will note that he has distanced himself from the UNKewl one lately, doesn't even acknowledge her.

Would you?

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

kewlJ is basically the Boy Who Cried Wolf of these AP forums. He has lied so many times that it's impossible to believe any stories he tells

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UNKewlJ has been banned, branded a liar, or both, by forum Admin from/at every forum at which she has participated.

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I think the odds are pretty good that you have sent Kim Lee a Private message relaying negative things about KJ. That's the kind of person you are.

I think the odds are pretty good that you've been drinking.

Obviously you missed this post. I did email him a few days ago, just to ask him the question we all wanted answered, not otherwise.

I have never sent him a PM, no need - I am sure that unless he is blind he knows by now that UNKewlJ is universally despised as a compulsive liar, just by perusing this and other forums.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

On these forums, usually there's fire where there's smoke. KewlJ you have lied so many times about so many things (and not just on here) that you need to just own up to it and admit that you've had a lot of problems telling the truth on AP forums.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

I communicated directly with the real "Kim Lee." He denies being UNKewlJ, yes - he refers to the bum just like that, as "UNKewlJ" :D but does not deny that UNKewlJ might have been feeding him things to say, which we already knew anyway.

There are reasons for his malicious mischief.

His CV should be posted here for all to see that someone like that would not be guilty of the exact same grammatical mistakes among other similarities as the bum UNKewlJ. Over all, anyone having been duped by a sociopathic liar like UNKewlJ into ever getting mixed up in any of this would be rubbing his b-hole in regret.

So it looks like Dan the DanDruff man was right.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

However, it is still possible that kewlJ could be sending these posts to a friend to make, from across the country, so I can't say for certain.

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Kim Lee is on the East coast. I am in Vegas. Already confirmed by Dan Druff. And no

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while I do believe Dan is correct and I dont think you guys are the same person.

Dan Druff can't say with 100% certainty since there are ways to get around this stuff. Do you think I'm risking many thousands of dollars at online casinos with multiple accounts without getting around this stuff?

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Okay, well here is another fact then that you should have considered. Kim Lee is very, very knowledgeable about everything AP, and math (similar to you and mickey) I am not. I know enough to get by, in a limited capacity, doing what I do. :rolleyes: And Kim Lee's knowledge extends to way before I was even an active player. It's ridiculous Axelwolf.

It would be like if people were suggesting Axelwolf is a sock puppet of Tasha or Tash/Nathan is feeding Axelwolf what to say and post.

Bob Dietz invited Kim Lee here to give his opinion of Dietz history and claims, knowing that he was knowledgeable and had all the publications. All I did was pass that invitation along. And when Kim Lee showed up and concluded the same as me, you and every other AP/real player, Dietz started screaming sock puppet. :mad: And we wonder why so few real players will have anything to do with this forum. :confused:

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Originally Posted by MDawg

I think the odds are pretty good that you've been drinking.

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I haven't been. Put your money where your mouth is, I will.

How can I prove it? Don't worry about that, I can. Let's make it a minimum of 10k. Then I'll bet half my winnings on if you sent Kim Lee a PM regarding KJ.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Kim Lee is on the East coast. I am in Vegas. Already confirmed by Dan Druff. And no

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while I do believe Dan is correct and I dont think you guys are the same person.

Dan Druff can't say with 100% certainty since there are ways to get around this stuff. Do you think I'm risking many thousands of dollars at online casinos with multiple accounts without getting around this stuff?

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Okay, well here is another fact then that you should have considered. Kim Lee is very, very knowledgeable about everything AP, and math (similar to you and mickey) I am not. I know enough to get by, in a limited capacity, doing what I do. :rolleyes: And Kim Lee's knowledge extends to way before I was even an active player. It's ridiculous Axelwolf.

It would be like if people were suggesting Axelwolf is a sock puppet of Tasha or Tash/Nathan is feeding Axelwolf what to say and post.

Bob Dietz invited Kim Lee here to give his opinion of Dietz history and claims, knowing that he was knowledgeable and had all the publications. All I did was pass that invitation along. And when Kim Lee showed up and concluded the same as me, you and every other AP/real player, Dietz started screaming sock puppet. :mad: And we wonder why so few real players will have anything to do with this forum. :confused:

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Dude, I already said I don't think you guys are the same people.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

KimLee, Nothing you have to say may overcome your association with a known sociopathic liar.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

KewlJ, you have repeatedly lied on this and other forums. You have admitted to many of these lies.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

kewlJ has also been caught in a lot of lies over time, both on this forum and elsewhere. Therefore, it is unclear if he really makes much (or anything) playing blackjack these days.

kewlJ is basically the Boy Who Cried Wolf of these AP forums. He has lied so many times that it's impossible to believe any stories he tells.

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Your judgment stinks.

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

. Then I'll bet half my winnings on if you sent Kim Lee a PM regarding KJ.

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Of course he did! Just like when Hunterhill mentioned that he know me, Hunterhill confirmed that Mdog immediately contacted him asking for information about me. I'll bet he did the same thing with Kim Lee.

MDog, you don't even belong in this discussion. You know nothing about sports betting and have nothing to add. Just go sit in the troll corner and wait for your opportunity to troll. Go Boy! Go! Sit! Stay!

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

But man I hit a big multiplier.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

KimLee is an idiot if he associates with a sociopathic liar like UNKewlJ. You will note that he has distanced himself from the UNKewl one lately, doesn't even acknowledge her. Would you?

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Hound, if you and KJ were in a rowboat and it started to sink I'd throw him a life ring and ask him to beat you unconscious with the oar.

Your ceaseless trolling is tiresome, as is your schtick.

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If you, KJ and MD were in a boat with 3 little boys while it started to sink. You would shout, "Quick, save the boys!"
KJ would shout," fuck the Boys" And MD would shout, "Do you think we have time?"

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

If you, KJ and MD were in a boat with 3 little boys while it started to sink. You would shout, "Quick, save the boys!"
KJ would shout," fuck the Boys" And MD would shout, "Do you think we have time?"

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The boys would be fine. Guaranteed coach belly would show up with his speedboat, filled with candy and toys and take the boys back to his place to dry off.

And I doubt MD would have much interest in the boys. Now if they were young male camels..... :cool:

Okay wait a minute, what would A.Wolf's role be in all this, because supposedly you are a transvestite.

As far as UNKewlJ, he is a well known groomer, but judging by the old fat and sloppy sugar daddies A.Wolf and MaxPen have seen

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the kewl-groomer

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with, he's not successful at even that.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

If Bob Dietz had a 40 year run where his cumulative win rate was 56%, he would not have needed clients or investors. He would have bet, bet, bet and be many-times over millionaire.

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Tell us the Kelly bet for a 56% handicapper laying -110 with a bankroll of $10k? Then what is his bankroll after winning 56 and losing 44 sequential Kelly bets? What is his bankroll after 40 seasons of this?

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Originally Posted by coach belly

Tell us the Kelly bet for a 56% handicapper laying -110 with a bankroll of $10k? Then what is his bankroll after winning 56 and losing 44 sequential Kelly bets? What is his bankroll after 40 seasons of this?

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oh look coach belly hoping for a "gottch ya" moment.

Off the top of my head....I don't know. :rolleyes: I would need to figure out just what 56% win rate comes to as far as an overall advantage. I am not a heavy math guy especially with formulas and all but I could probably figure it out if I needed to. And if I was claiming to have made a living sports betting for 40 years I would have done so.

In Blackjack, which is what I do for a living, the formula is BR x advantage (different for each TC) x .73 (rounded to .75 for ease).

But I dont do full Kelly, I do fractional kelly.

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Originally Posted by Seedvalue

Professional Gamblers / Casino APs who actually make their living from beating casinos do don’t spend all their time trying to convince everyone they are legit. It’s the exact opposite. They don’t want anyone to know because it threatens their ability to earn.

The fact you have spent thousands of hours and years of your life trying to convince everyone with a computer you play blackjack for a living proves you don’t do shit.

100 percent you sell ass and mouth for cash. You play some on the side but your sugar daddies pay the bills. Fact

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Off the top of my head....I don't know.

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Then how do you know this?...

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

If Bob Dietz had a 40 year run where his cumulative win rate was 56%... He would have bet, bet, bet and be many-times over millionaire.

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Is that your estimate, that his bankroll would be how many millions?

Why isn't this retard out winning 80% of his tie bets?

It isn't clear to me, nor have I seen any evidence, even by his comments that Seedvalue was any kind of blackjack expert or professional blackjack player, so I don't really care what he opined.

As for me, My first dozen or so years living and playing in Las Vegas, I was a grinder type player, playing every day, for many hours. If you go back and look, you will see that most of my online posting occurred in the evenings when I returned home.

It was about 4 years ago, right around the time of Covid, that I re-invented myself and how I play, mostly due to heat related issues, and began playing much less but for higher stakes, only during busier weekend night times. So yes, Now I have much more time, which I am filling with my own +EV sports betting (bonus play), which leaves me much more time to post if that is what I choose. There are times that I get involved with a play like the BJ machine play my brother and I hit for 10 weeks last year, and you will see me disappear for a while. So fuck you and seedvalue's opinion.

It so happens currently, I do sports betting every day. Volume betting to get through the rollover requirements. And not being a guy that picks 56% on my own, I spend a couple hours each morning online making my picks. Checking different sites and what different people have to say, checking weather/wind conditions, running simulations. So I am already online, and end up reading the forums and spend too much time.

NOW....what about you. What is your excuse? You claim to be a winning player playing many, many, (probably 100's of days a year in Las Vegas) AND claim to be a working attorney and yet here you are posting on a forum 24/7. What about THAT hun??? :cool:

I don't really judge anyone for posting too much on forums. If that is what we want to do, it is fine. Most cases a waste of time and energy, of which we are all guilty of, but there are worse things we could do to entertain ourselves.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

What’s clear to a child is that I’ve been around these forums only five years and know only one of you personally and yet still I’ve been observed and played and produced evidence of my existence, play and winning. This fraud claims that all these different “APs” know him, that he’s hit these extraordinary six figure jackpots during a penny ante machine career even won a car played all this blackjack in public locations been approached repeatedly to join blackjack teams brought a Vegas casino to its knees to cough up a mid six figure settlement without even going to court and yet after twenty years only a couple of sightings of red green chip play as cover for sugar daddy hustling.

And he’s unable to produce even the tiniest bit of corroboration for anything he claims to be doing it would be like if I couldn’t produce the picture of the inside of a casino hotel room after claiming to have stayed so many nights in one. And his privacy BS means nada I’m private too so I just produce the pictures a bit after I’ve moved on from that spot. And many of the bits of evidence he could produce wouldn’t even potentially affect his privacy.

Wolf is 100% right when he distills it all down to none other than “bullshit reasons” for why he won’t produce evidence to back up anything he claims. The obvious reason is generally the correct one - that he can’t produce what he doesn’t have.

And then we have all the lies he’s been caught in or admitted to.

And the reason he’s a ghost no one knows him even though he claims many know him is because it’s all fabrication and he doesn’t have anything to do with any casinos or APs at all - other than hanging out in casinos for purposes of male prostitution.

It would be offensive if it weren’t so hilarious that he even expects to be taken at all seriously.

Mostly he’s worthy of copy/paste or short responses. Or no response at all. Leave the 10X multipliers to him. :D

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Off the top of my head....I don't know.

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Then how do you know this?...

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

If Bob Dietz had a 40 year run where his cumulative win rate was 56%... He would have bet, bet, bet and be many-times over millionaire.

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Is that your estimate, that his bankroll would be how many millions?

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Oh stop it with you attempted "gottch ya" moments CB.

It takes about 53% to break even with the vig...generally. If someone is hitting 56% for 40 years, they would be a multi-millionaire, even if not betting perfect Kelly.

Wasn't it you who discovered the man owed $500 in back taxes? More recently he himself said he owes $900 in back taxes. Of which he pays 1% penelty each month. That is 12% a year. Does THAT sound like a sucessful 40 year sports bettor? come on man.

And I will tell you something else. I have never wanted to get into this because where a person lives and the circumstances surrounding that really should be private. But Bob Dietz made it public and put it on the table for fair discussion when he repeatedly posted his name and address.

So it is fair game, so lets talk about that little house in Johnson City. What we hear from Dietz is how Johnson City is one of the top 10 places to live. I guess every successful sports bettor/gambler is flocking there. :rolleyes:

But the reality of it is, that just as Kim Lee figured out, Dietz's wife supported him, which allowed him to do his sports scam-dicapping for decades and break even or maybe even make a few bucks. She supported him. She, a professor at East Tenn State, bought that house. He inherited it when she passed. He remains in that house in East Bumble <-:rolleyes: fuck Tennesse, not because it is a great place to live, but it is nearly free for him. All he has to do is pay the taxes and well.... :rolleyes:

I can't believe that Mdog, who might be the only person to waste more time posting than me, would have the balls to question my posting so much. :D

Here is a little secret Dog. While Jdaewoo's post mock all the winning you claim, there is a secondary point to the and that is why aren't you out doing what you claim, instead of wasting all that time posting on a forum with 12 people? I guess you haven't figured that out.

Ok, enough for me for today. Going out for a while. Druff really should pay me for keeping this little forum alive and hoppin...:D

Redietz, when you write about Kelly are you talking about full kelly or fractional kelly? Or are you talking about both?

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Originally Posted by MDawg

REDietz should appear on the program. If he has indeed done this all his adult life it seems like he would be a great candidate for the show.

We have lying male prostitutes like UNKewlJ who pretend that they do this, and others who claim they do this part time or have done it for part of their lives, but REDietz is the real deal!

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So all we need now is for redietz to confirm mdawg is the real gambling deal. How bout it ditz?

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

KewlJ, you have repeatedly lied on this and other forums. You have admitted to many of these lies.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

What we hear from Dietz is how Johnson City is one of the top 10 places to live. I guess every successful sports bettor/gambler is flocking there.

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If he's only betting NCAA football, 100 days of the year, then where should he live the other 265 days?

How about with his wife, in a top 10 place to live college town, where she's a professor?

Does that make any sense to you?

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Kim Lee is on the East coast. I am in Vegas. Already confirmed by Dan Druff. And no

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while I do believe Dan is correct and I dont think you guys are the same person.

Dan Druff can't say with 100% certainty since there are ways to get around this stuff. Do you think I'm risking many thousands of dollars at online casinos with multiple accounts without getting around this stuff?

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Kim lee tried to meet up with Singer in 2018. You know for sure kj would never go for that.

Let me tell you the stories of Stanford Wong and AxelWolf's craps table. Stanford was promoting this silly dice control theory. It is based on the "blanket roll" concept that if you roll the dice like wagon wheels, then you will eliminate or at least suppress the numbers on the axles. Some guys on the the BJ21 page rented a professional slow-motion movie camera. Even with the softest roll, dice bounced chaotically with no hope of preserving any of the original orientation.

Nevertheless, people continued to practice throwing dice. I saw AxelWolf's table at April's house. April's husband practiced assiduously on that table. He also had a little box to practice while travelling. April's husband came by my house, and we set the box up in my basement. He backed up, threw the dice, and missed the whole box! He then complained that my basement floor was not level. That was probably true, but if you missed a 2-foot box, why would I suspect you can control dice to within millimeters?

On BJ21, young "Little Joe" reported rolling only 1/9 sevens at home, much less that the 1/7 by chance. Stanford teamed up with him, and Fezzik and I bet they could not roll a low number of sevens. During the challenge, Stanford rolling an average number of sevens, and Little Joe did well, winning a bit.

After this, a team flew Little Joe out and put him up in Vegas (with comps). They took him out to tables and Joe rolled too many sevens. Eventually, his cumulative monitored rolls were worse than chance, and the group gave up. Afterwards Joe complained the tables were too bouncy, too soft, too long, too short. He wanted another free vacation.

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

Redietz, when you write about Kelly are you talking about full kelly or fractional kelly? Or are you talking about both?

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I have thoughts on this, but I know you want Red to answer, so I will hold off. :)

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Originally Posted by Kim Lee

Let me tell you the stories of Stanford Wong and AxelWolf's craps table. Stanford was promoting this silly dice control theory. It is based on the "blanket roll" concept that if you roll the dice like wagon wheels, then you will eliminate or at least suppress the numbers on the axles. Some guys on the the BJ21 page rented a professional slow-motion movie camera. Even with the softest roll, dice bounced chaotically with no hope of preserving any of the original orientation.

Nevertheless, people continued to practice throwing dice. I saw AxelWolf's table at April's house. April's husband practiced assiduously on that table. He also had a little box to practice while travelling. April's husband came by my house, and we set the box up in my basement. He backed up, threw the dice, and missed the whole box! He then complained that my basement floor was not level. That was probably true, but if you missed a 2-foot box, why would I suspect you can control dice to within millimeters?

On BJ21, young "Little Joe" reported rolling only 1/9 sevens at home, much less that the 1/7 by chance. Stanford teamed up with him, and Fezzik and I bet they could not roll a low number of sevens. During the challenge, Stanford rolling an average number of sevens, and Little Joe did well, winning a bit.

After this, a team flew Little Joe out and put him up in Vegas (with comps). They took him out to tables and Joe rolled too many sevens. Eventually, his cumulative monitored rolls were worse than chance, and the group gave up. Afterwards Joe complained the tables were too bouncy, too soft, too long, too short. He wanted another free vacation.

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Just to be clear, it was not my table, we as a group invested in a table, and I got out fairly quickly. Ownership of the table went to someone else. This was all before the popularity of dice control became a thing. It was only after that that the Dominator stuff all started.

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Originally Posted by Kim Lee

Let me tell you the stories of Stanford Wong and AxelWolf's craps table. Stanford was promoting this silly dice control theory. It is based on the "blanket roll" concept that if you roll the dice like wagon wheels, then you will eliminate or at least suppress the numbers on the axles. Some guys on the the BJ21 page rented a professional slow-motion movie camera. Even with the softest roll, dice bounced chaotically with no hope of preserving any of the original orientation.

Nevertheless, people continued to practice throwing dice. I saw AxelWolf's table at April's house. April's husband practiced assiduously on that table. He also had a little box to practice while travelling. April's husband came by my house, and we set the box up in my basement. He backed up, threw the dice, and missed the whole box! He then complained that my basement floor was not level. That was probably true, but if you missed a 2-foot box, why would I suspect you can control dice to within millimeters?

On BJ21, young "Little Joe" reported rolling only 1/9 sevens at home, much less that the 1/7 by chance. Stanford teamed up with him, and Fezzik and I bet they could not roll a low number of sevens. During the challenge, Stanford rolling an average number of sevens, and Little Joe did well, winning a bit.

After this, a team flew Little Joe out and put him up in Vegas (with comps). They took him out to tables and Joe rolled too many sevens. Eventually, his cumulative monitored rolls were worse than chance, and the group gave up. Afterwards Joe complained the tables were too bouncy, too soft, too long, too short. He wanted another free vacation.

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Great Story Kim Lee. God, I wish there was more of these kinds of stories on this forum and less of the anti-AP crew trying to demonize and drive away real players.

I will tell you the part I am still having trouble with. How Did Wong, a pure math guy, ever come to believe in DI? That is just shocking to me. And the follow up would be why did it take him so long to back away from it. Do you think he wanted all the Royalities from the DI books before he said, it didn't work?

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Let me tell you the stories of Stanford Wong and AxelWolf's craps table. Stanford was promoting this silly dice control theory. It is based on the "blanket roll" concept that if you roll the dice like wagon wheels, then you will eliminate or at least suppress the numbers on the axles. Some guys on the the BJ21 page rented a professional slow-motion movie camera. Even with the softest roll, dice bounced chaotically with no hope of preserving any of the original orientation.

Nevertheless, people continued to practice throwing dice. I saw AxelWolf's table at April's house. April's husband practiced assiduously on that table. He also had a little box to practice while travelling. April's husband came by my house, and we set the box up in my basement. He backed up, threw the dice, and missed the whole box! He then complained that my basement floor was not level. That was probably true, but if you missed a 2-foot box, why would I suspect you can control dice to within millimeters?

On BJ21, young "Little Joe" reported rolling only 1/9 sevens at home, much less that the 1/7 by chance. Stanford teamed up with him, and Fezzik and I bet they could not roll a low number of sevens. During the challenge, Stanford rolling an average number of sevens, and Little Joe did well, winning a bit.

After this, a team flew Little Joe out and put him up in Vegas (with comps). They took him out to tables and Joe rolled too many sevens. Eventually, his cumulative monitored rolls were worse than chance, and the group gave up. Afterwards Joe complained the tables were too bouncy, too soft, too long, too short. He wanted another free vacation.

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Great Story Kim Lee. God, I wish there was more of these kinds of stories on this forum and less of the anti-AP crew trying to demonize and drive away real players.

I will tell you the part I am still having trouble with. How Did Wong, a pure math guy, ever come to believe in DI? That is just shocking to me. And the follow up would be why did it take him so long to back away from it. Do you think he wanted all the Royalities from the DI books before he said, it didn't work?

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But, but, but you HAD to know that story since you are the same person.

And I thought you never met other AP’s?

I’m so confused at what’s going on here.

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But, but, but you HAD to know that story since you are the same person.

And I thought you never met other AP’s?

I’m so confused at what’s going on here.

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Boz, don't you know the anti-APers don't like it when you point out holes in their conspiracy theories. They will turn on you next. :D

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Let me tell you the stories of Stanford Wong and AxelWolf's craps table. Stanford was promoting this silly dice control theory. It is based on the "blanket roll" concept that if you roll the dice like wagon wheels, then you will eliminate or at least suppress the numbers on the axles. Some guys on the the BJ21 page rented a professional slow-motion movie camera. Even with the softest roll, dice bounced chaotically with no hope of preserving any of the original orientation.

Nevertheless, people continued to practice throwing dice. I saw AxelWolf's table at April's house. April's husband practiced assiduously on that table. He also had a little box to practice while travelling. April's husband came by my house, and we set the box up in my basement. He backed up, threw the dice, and missed the whole box! He then complained that my basement floor was not level. That was probably true, but if you missed a 2-foot box, why would I suspect you can control dice to within millimeters?

On BJ21, young "Little Joe" reported rolling only 1/9 sevens at home, much less that the 1/7 by chance. Stanford teamed up with him, and Fezzik and I bet they could not roll a low number of sevens. During the challenge, Stanford rolling an average number of sevens, and Little Joe did well, winning a bit.

After this, a team flew Little Joe out and put him up in Vegas (with comps). They took him out to tables and Joe rolled too many sevens. Eventually, his cumulative monitored rolls were worse than chance, and the group gave up. Afterwards Joe complained the tables were too bouncy, too soft, too long, too short. He wanted another free vacation.

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So who came up with this stupid theory that KJ was Kim Lee, and who all believed it was true?

Bunch of fucking idiots, cuz there's absolutely zero chance that Kim Lee is KJ, based on this post alone.

I enjoy these dice tales.

Query: anybody ever actually meet or verify the existence of Frank Scoblete's seemingly invincible "Captain of Craps, aka The Captain?"

By report he did to craps what the hound claims he does to high limit salon gaming.

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that A.Wolf is other than a nearly illiterate drunk with ADD who has little idea what was said or not said on this or any other subject.

Imagine someone with a thick burlap bag over his head with a few tiny holes in random spots (not even over the eyes) trying to discern what is going on in the world, and you have an idea of how A.Wolf functions on these forums.

I mean the man is incapable of reading something more than a couple sentences long without losing focus, and rarely gets the exact meaning of anything posted here on his first reading. It often takes him pages and days before he catches up with what is being said.

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This much is known for certain about A.Wolf

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Nervous, fidgety, constantly drunken, can't sit still can't stop interrupting people, and perennially forgetting what he just said a bit ago.

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so within those parameters, could he possibly be a razor sharp focused interviewer or will he constantly be asking a question based on what he thought he heard a half an hour ago?

https://www.tiktok.com/@tom.mf.cruis...64329724628270

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I communicated directly with the real "Kim Lee." He denies being UNKewlJ, yes - he refers to the bum just like that, as "UNKewlJ" but does not deny that UNKewlJ might have been feeding him things to say, which we already knew anyway.

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More of a de facto sock than a de jure.

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Let me tell you the stories of Stanford Wong and AxelWolf's craps table. Stanford was promoting this silly dice control theory. It is based on the "blanket roll" concept that if you roll the dice like wagon wheels, then you will eliminate or at least suppress the numbers on the axles. Some guys on the the BJ21 page rented a professional slow-motion movie camera. Even with the softest roll, dice bounced chaotically with no hope of preserving any of the original orientation.

Nevertheless, people continued to practice throwing dice. I saw AxelWolf's table at April's house. April's husband practiced assiduously on that table. He also had a little box to practice while travelling. April's husband came by my house, and we set the box up in my basement. He backed up, threw the dice, and missed the whole box! He then complained that my basement floor was not level. That was probably true, but if you missed a 2-foot box, why would I suspect you can control dice to within millimeters?

On BJ21, young "Little Joe" reported rolling only 1/9 sevens at home, much less that the 1/7 by chance. Stanford teamed up with him, and Fezzik and I bet they could not roll a low number of sevens. During the challenge, Stanford rolling an average number of sevens, and Little Joe did well, winning a bit.

After this, a team flew Little Joe out and put him up in Vegas (with comps). They took him out to tables and Joe rolled too many sevens. Eventually, his cumulative monitored rolls were worse than chance, and the group gave up. Afterwards Joe complained the tables were too bouncy, too soft, too long, too short. He wanted another free vacation.

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So who came up with this stupid theory that KJ was Kim Lee, and who all believed it was true?

Bunch of fucking idiots, cuz there's absolutely zero chance that Kim Lee is KJ, based on this post alone.

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that A.Wolf is other than a nearly illiterate drunk with ADD who has little idea what was said or not said on this or any other subject. Imagine someone with a thick burlap bag over his head with a few tiny holes in random spots (not even over the eyes) trying to discern what is going on in the world, and you have an idea of how A.Wolf functions on these forums.

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Uh...no...

Seems to me Axel is a fairly well respected AP whose bona fides are known and have been confirmed.

You, in contrast, pontificate, bluster and brag yet you stay hidden away, unwilling and afraid to let others (the Wiz doesn't count due to NDA) watch your play and report back to the forum in that regard.

You give Axel shit because he, like KJ, constantly calls you out on your ridiculous claims.

You've pretty much exiled yourself to Fantasy Island.

"The plane...the plane..."

BTW, posting pics of casino chips proves nothing: could be photo-shopped, created by AI, somebody else's...here, let me show you what I mean..

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"Look who I just bedded? She freakin' LOVES me..."



See what I mean?

Obviously I never met let alone banged Jodie Comer, voted the Most Beautiful Woman in the World, yet i just (falsely, alas) said I did and even included her photo.

See?

It proves nothing.

Believably claiming that what is shown in an image is true requires credibility and boyo you've shot your credibility wad long ago.

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that A.Wolf is other than a nearly illiterate drunk with ADD who has little idea what was said or not said on this or any other subject. Imagine someone with a thick burlap bag over his head with a few tiny holes in random spots (not even over the eyes) trying to discern what is going on in the world, and you have an idea of how A.Wolf functions on these forums.

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Uh...no...

Seems to me Axel is a fairly well respected AP whose bonafides are known and have been confirmed.

You, in contrast, pontificate, bluster and brag yet you stay hidden away, unwilling and afraid to let others (the Wiz doesn't count due to NDA) watch your play and report back to the forum in that regard.

You give Axel shit because he, like KJ, constantly calls you out on your ridiculous claims.

You've pretty much exiled yourself to Fantasy Island.

"The plane...the plane..."

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No “seems” about it. Dozens on forums and many more overall have worked with Axel, made money with him and would vouch for him immediately. Including the “Wizard” who it’s sad can’t give his honest opinion on anything anymore. Not sad to me, but sad that someone who was once respected in the field, and supposedly so intelligent sold out his integrity for a few bucks and whatever else that we don’t know.

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per the link Wong has backed off his claim that craps can be beaten with dice influencing -

but I don't see how Kim Lee's fading of Wong's dice action would be advantageous - the HE is still there - maybe he just did it for fun - that would be my guess

"And finally, in April 2011, in a tacit admission that he had been wrong in believing casino craps could be legitimately beaten, Wong removed craps from the list of “Beatable Casino Games” on his popular BJ21.com website, and also removed the “Craps” discussion page from his site, as well. In addition, a few months later, in October 2011, in an interview on Bob Dancer’s popular KLAV radio program, “Gambling With an Edge,” Wong admitted that for players “who want to get serious about making money in casinos, craps is not the game to play.” That pretty much says it all."


https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/gamb...lKZDMXMJRCnon3

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But Alan M. always said DI was a legitimate method of profiting from gambling. And he's witnessed it as well as having had some success with it. An actual player!

Doesn't that supercede anything a guy like Wong comes up with, who won't lift a finger, print a word, or say a thing unless it benefits him commercially?

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I don't consider Alan (r.i.p.) to have been an expert on gambling - I guess he was just speaking about his observations - observations are not proofs

in America, everything, even trivial things, are studied to death

so, in thinking about it - I would have to believe that if dice influencing were possible it would have been proven somehow and somewhere with thousands of rolls

academics love this kind of thing

and guess what - I found an academic study - see link

these PhDs built a machine they called "Lucky Lil" and calibrated it to throw the dice in a way that they believed might produce non random results

they tested both short rolls that did not hit the back wall and legal rolls that did hit the back wall

but alas - "Lucky Lil" failed to produce any results that were significantly different than random results

the is I believe because the action of the dice becomes chaotic once it hits the table and then even more so when it hits the back wall with the pyramids


https://digitalscholarship.unlv.edu/...5&context=grrj


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I have to agree with you on that.

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that A.Wolf is other than a nearly illiterate drunk with ADD who has little idea what was said or not said on this or any other subject. Imagine someone with a thick burlap bag over his head with a few tiny holes in random spots (not even over the eyes) trying to discern what is going on in the world, and you have an idea of how A.Wolf functions on these forums.

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Uh...no...

Seems to me Axel is a fairly well respected AP whose bonafides are known and have been confirmed.

You, in contrast, pontificate, bluster and brag yet you stay hidden away, unwilling and afraid to let others (the Wiz doesn't count due to NDA) watch your play and report back to the forum in that regard.

You give Axel shit because he, like KJ, constantly calls you out on your ridiculous claims.

You've pretty much exiled yourself to Fantasy Island.

"The plane...the plane..."

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No “seems” about it. Dozens on forums and many more overall have worked with Axel, made money with him and would vouch for him immediately. Including the “Wizard” who it’s sad can’t give his honest opinion on anything anymore. Not sad to me, but sad that someone who was once respected in the field, and supposedly so intelligent sold out his integrity for a few bucks and whatever else that we don’t know.

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I see this both ways. Axel is indeed a respected name in the AP world. I also lend far more credence to mdawg's interaction with Shack than what some here seem to think--or want to think. When you think about forums' history, when else and where else has there actually been anyone else (aside from me, who worked with Wizard on comparatively meaningless small potatoes) who's been willing to even BEGIN to prove a thing in a face-to-face setting?

I admit, I don't really know how it all went down. But when you think about all the BS, hot air, phony baloney, whoppers and outright lies perpetuated by someone like this character kew spews almost on a daily basis, it downright HAS to be somewhat satisfying to see what steps mdawg has taken in this regard. Sure we really don't know how he really fares in the casinos. But just that fair step alone equates to some measure of credibility.

In the history of these forums almost none have provided any back up for anything. My evidence was summarized here:

https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post173701

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Proof I have posted includes

-stacks of cash
-stacks of chips
-millions of dollars in paid off markers
-casino checks issued for wins adding up to millions
-pictures and videos of high end timepieces
-pictures of winning Baccarat shoes
-pictures of large Vegas high roller suites
-pictures of gourmet meals eaten at casino resort restaurants
-pictures of the television screen inside the suites, and paper folios, that prove full RFB comps.
-actual video of WIN statements while logged in live to player card accounts to substantiate all alleged wins
-witnessed winning session of Baccarat before the Wizard

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I communicated directly with the real "Kim Lee." He denies being UNKewlJ, yes - he refers to the bum just like that, as "UNKewlJ" but does not deny that UNKewlJ might have been feeding him things to say, which we already knew anyway.

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More of a de facto sock than a de jure.

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There is no question that UNKewlJ was feeding KimLee nonsense going back to many years ago, which is why the Lee munster stepped in to this forum with his very first post hitting the ground running in 2018, mouthing the same words in support of UNKewlJ that had been fed to him.

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I mean come on, UNKewlJ is anything BUT consistent. In fact, there is no one on these forums with a more inconsistent constantly contradictory story.

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No one believes her, but UNKewlJ claims that the contradictions come from deliberate subterfuge. WE know the inconsistency comes from inability to keep track of all her lies.

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kewlJ has also been caught in a lot of lies over time, both on this forum and elsewhere. Therefore, it is unclear if he really makes much (or anything) playing blackjack these days.

kewlJ is basically the Boy Who Cried Wolf of these AP forums. He has lied so many times that it's impossible to believe any stories he tells.

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And there were posts when KimLee first returned here recently that were obviously being fed him by UNKewlJ too.

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My grinder friends like KewlJ moved to Vegas, accumulated significant bankrolls, and bought homes.

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Since his latest return after being confronted on the UNKewl connection, nary a mention of anything to do with UNKewlJ (once bitten, twice shy) and the nature and tone of the posts have changed.

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In the history of these forums almost none have provided any back up for anything. My evidence was summarized here:

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You, you provided EXHIBITS but none of it has been or should be admitted into evidence due to lack of foundation.

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There is no question that UNKewlJ was feeding KimLee nonsense going back to many years ago, which is why the Lee munster stepped in to this forum with his very first post hitting the ground running in 2018, mouthing the same words in support of UNKewlJ that had been fed to him.

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I mean come on, UNKewlJ is anything BUT consistent. In fact, there is no one on these forums with a more inconsistent constantly contradictory story.

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No one believes her, but UNKewlJ claims that the contradictions come from deliberate subterfuge. WE know the inconsistency comes from inability to keep track of all her lies.

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kewlJ has also been caught in a lot of lies over time, both on this forum and elsewhere. Therefore, it is unclear if he really makes much (or anything) playing blackjack these days.

kewlJ is basically the Boy Who Cried Wolf of these AP forums. He has lied so many times that it's impossible to believe any stories he tells.

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And there were posts when KimLee first returned here recently that were obviously being fed him by UNKewlJ too.

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My grinder friends like KewlJ moved to Vegas, accumulated significant bankrolls, and bought homes.

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Since his latest return after being confronted on the UNKewl connection, nary a mention of anything to do with UNKewlJ (once bitten, twice shy) and the nature and tone of the posts have changed.

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Another productive day in fucktard land.....pathetic

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In the history of these forums almost none have provided any back up for anything. My evidence was summarized here:

https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post173701

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Proof I have posted includes

-stacks of cash
-stacks of chips
-millions of dollars in paid off markers
-casino checks issued for wins adding up to millions
-pictures and videos of high end timepieces
-pictures of winning Baccarat shoes
-pictures of large Vegas high roller suites
-pictures of gourmet meals eaten at casino resort restaurants
-pictures of the television screen inside the suites, and paper folios, that prove full RFB comps.
-actual video of WIN statements while logged in live to player card accounts to substantiate all alleged wins
-witnessed winning session of Baccarat before the Wizard

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Bac79 Also posted up some of those things, it was all BS as none of it was his. He even claimed his boss's wife as his own. Had he lasted longer, he would have ramped up his game and posted more and more fake evidence.

What Mike witnessed was very small potatoes in comparison to what you have been claiming.

I could post up a lot of real pictures of, cash, jackpots, Sports bets, chips, big hotel suites with pool tables, libraries, multiple balconies, slot tickets, stacks of W2g's, special event Invitational only offers, etc and I didn't/dont even take pictures of 10% of the shit. I don't care too, as it's all dushbagabragery and very dumb to do for the most part.

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If Bob Dietz had a 40 year run where his cumulative win rate was 56%, he would not have needed clients or investors. He would have bet, bet, bet and be many-times over millionaire.

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Tell us the Kelly bet for a 56% handicapper laying -110 with a bankroll of $10k? Then what is his bankroll after winning 56 and losing 44 sequential Kelly bets? What is his bankroll after 40 seasons of this?

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Tell us the Kelly bet for a 56% handicapper laying -110 with a bankroll of $10k? Then what is his bankroll after winning 56 and losing 44 sequential Kelly bets? What is his bankroll after 40 seasons of this?

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oh look coach belly hoping for a "gottch ya" moment.

Off the top of my head....I don't know. :rolleyes: I would need to figure out just what 56% win rate comes to as far as an overall advantage. I am not a heavy math guy especially with formulas and all but I could probably figure it out if I needed to. And if I was claiming to have made a living sports betting for 40 years I would have done so.

In Blackjack, which is what I do for a living, the formula is BR x advantage (different for each TC) x .73 (rounded to .75 for ease).

But I dont do full Kelly, I do fractional kelly.

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Betting 1.10 to win 1 the total wager on 100 bets would be $110.00

The 56 winning tickets would pay $2.10 each for a total of $117.60.

117.60/$110.00 = 1.069 for an edge of 6.9%.

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Off the top of my head....I don't know.

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Then how do you know this?...

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If Bob Dietz had a 40 year run where his cumulative win rate was 56%... He would have bet, bet, bet and be many-times over millionaire.

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In the history of these forums almost none have provided any back up for anything. My evidence was summarized here:

https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post173701

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Proof I have posted includes

-stacks of cash
-stacks of chips
-millions of dollars in paid off markers
-casino checks issued for wins adding up to millions
-pictures and videos of high end timepieces
-pictures of winning Baccarat shoes
-pictures of large Vegas high roller suites
-pictures of gourmet meals eaten at casino resort restaurants
-pictures of the television screen inside the suites, and paper folios, that prove full RFB comps.
-actual video of WIN statements while logged in live to player card accounts to substantiate all alleged wins
-witnessed winning session of Baccarat before the Wizard

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Bac79 Also posted up some of those things, it was all BS as none of it was his. He even claimed his boss's wife as his own. Had he lasted longer, he would have ramped up his game and posted more and more fake evidence.

What Mike witnessed was very small potatoes in comparison to what you have been claiming.

I could post up a lot of real pictures of, cash, jackpots, Sports bets, chips, big hotel suites with pool tables, libraries, multiple balconies, slot tickets, stacks of W2g's, special event Invitational only offers, etc and I didn't/dont even take pictures of 10% of the shit. I don't care too, as it's all dushbagabragery and very dumb to do for the most part.

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You need to read this entire post and the post after it,
MDAWG EVIDENCE

but let's face it, you are incapable of reading anything longer than a couple sentences without losing focus, so why bother?

Obviously you have no idea what has transpired and what evidence has been presented over the past six years if you think it comes down to just that.

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This is true. Whether you “begged borrowed or stole” it, it had to come from somewhere.
Actually one of the explanations I’ve offered involves going over say just one of our Vegas trips. In 2021, we ended up staying literally 9 months straight in Vegas. I saw Wizard regularly during that stay which prompted him to say, “This is the longest Vegas trip I have ever heard of.”

During that stay we were in top luxury suites every day, burning comps of food too, plus special events, free gifts, to the tune of an average few grand a night in Vegas calculated comps.

There are only two ways to have all that covered - lose, and get comped at the rate of 10% of actual loss, or win, and get comped at the rate of approximately 35% of theoretical loss, as outlined here:

https://www.gamblingforums.com/threa...machine.24451/

So, given Vegas doled out comps of approximately $800K that year - to get those comps via actual loss, you’d have to have dumped $8,000,000. at the Vegas casinos. Or, have lost nothing, won, and gotten a 35% theo loss. My claim, as backed up by all the evidence I have provided:

https://www.gamblingforums.com/threa...15#post-170119

is that I win, and get comped accordingly.

Keep in mind that while 2021, was extreme, staying in Vegas 9 out of 12 months that year, we go to Vegas pretty regularly and even if we’re not staying in the actual suites (and I might pull down more than one suite in more than on property simultaneously), we burn comps mightily at all times, and routinely stay several months a year in Vegas.

So, either I’m beyond made of money dumping millions a year in Vegas, or - maybe what I claim as to win win winning! … is true.

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Redietz, when you write about Kelly are you talking about full kelly or fractional kelly? Or are you talking about both?

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I have thoughts on this, but I know you want Red to answer, so I will hold off. :)

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He's not going to answer. At least not seriously.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

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Originally Posted by Kim Lee

Let me tell you the stories of Stanford Wong and AxelWolf's craps table. Stanford was promoting this silly dice control theory. It is based on the "blanket roll" concept that if you roll the dice like wagon wheels, then you will eliminate or at least suppress the numbers on the axles. Some guys on the the BJ21 page rented a professional slow-motion movie camera. Even with the softest roll, dice bounced chaotically with no hope of preserving any of the original orientation.

Nevertheless, people continued to practice throwing dice. I saw AxelWolf's table at April's house. April's husband practiced assiduously on that table. He also had a little box to practice while travelling. April's husband came by my house, and we set the box up in my basement. He backed up, threw the dice, and missed the whole box! He then complained that my basement floor was not level. That was probably true, but if you missed a 2-foot box, why would I suspect you can control dice to within millimeters?

On BJ21, young "Little Joe" reported rolling only 1/9 sevens at home, much less that the 1/7 by chance. Stanford teamed up with him, and Fezzik and I bet they could not roll a low number of sevens. During the challenge, Stanford rolling an average number of sevens, and Little Joe did well, winning a bit.

After this, a team flew Little Joe out and put him up in Vegas (with comps). They took him out to tables and Joe rolled too many sevens. Eventually, his cumulative monitored rolls were worse than chance, and the group gave up. Afterwards Joe complained the tables were too bouncy, too soft, too long, too short. He wanted another free vacation.

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Great Story Kim Lee. God, I wish there was more of these kinds of stories on this forum and less of the anti-AP crew trying to demonize and drive away real players.

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And we found out kim lee is friends with fezzik. That's really going to make redietz' day. LOL!

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

What we hear from Dietz is how Johnson City is one of the top 10 places to live. I guess every successful sports bettor/gambler is flocking there.

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If he's only betting NCAA football, 100 days of the year, then where should he live the other 265 days?

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Wherever his other job is.

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

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Originally Posted by Kim Lee

Let me tell you the stories of Stanford Wong and AxelWolf's craps table. Stanford was promoting this silly dice control theory. It is based on the "blanket roll" concept that if you roll the dice like wagon wheels, then you will eliminate or at least suppress the numbers on the axles. Some guys on the the BJ21 page rented a professional slow-motion movie camera. Even with the softest roll, dice bounced chaotically with no hope of preserving any of the original orientation.

Nevertheless, people continued to practice throwing dice. I saw AxelWolf's table at April's house. April's husband practiced assiduously on that table. He also had a little box to practice while travelling. April's husband came by my house, and we set the box up in my basement. He backed up, threw the dice, and missed the whole box! He then complained that my basement floor was not level. That was probably true, but if you missed a 2-foot box, why would I suspect you can control dice to within millimeters?

On BJ21, young "Little Joe" reported rolling only 1/9 sevens at home, much less that the 1/7 by chance. Stanford teamed up with him, and Fezzik and I bet they could not roll a low number of sevens. During the challenge, Stanford rolling an average number of sevens, and Little Joe did well, winning a bit.

After this, a team flew Little Joe out and put him up in Vegas (with comps). They took him out to tables and Joe rolled too many sevens. Eventually, his cumulative monitored rolls were worse than chance, and the group gave up. Afterwards Joe complained the tables were too bouncy, too soft, too long, too short. He wanted another free vacation.

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So who came up with this stupid theory that KJ was Kim Lee, and who all believed it was true?

Bunch of fucking idiots, cuz there's absolutely zero chance that Kim Lee is KJ, based on this post alone.

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mdaw started it and redietz backed it up.

Crimm claims to understand Constitutional law, and yet doesn't seem to understand the difference between de facto and de jure. Even UNKewlJ appeared to get that!

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Crimm claims to understand Constitutional law, and yet doesn't seem to understand the difference between de facto and de jure. Even UNKewlJ appeared to get that!

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And you claim to be a winning gambler.

While Crimm IS and HAS been, just like KJ and Axel. Which is why you hate them so much and they bother you.

They all OWN your Daddy’s boy Candy ass!

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Originally Posted by Kim Lee

Let me tell you the stories of Stanford Wong and AxelWolf's craps table. Stanford was promoting this silly dice control theory. It is based on the "blanket roll" concept that if you roll the dice like wagon wheels, then you will eliminate or at least suppress the numbers on the axles. Some guys on the the BJ21 page rented a professional slow-motion movie camera. Even with the softest roll, dice bounced chaotically with no hope of preserving any of the original orientation.

Nevertheless, people continued to practice throwing dice. I saw AxelWolf's table at April's house. April's husband practiced assiduously on that table. He also had a little box to practice while travelling. April's husband came by my house, and we set the box up in my basement. He backed up, threw the dice, and missed the whole box! He then complained that my basement floor was not level. That was probably true, but if you missed a 2-foot box, why would I suspect you can control dice to within millimeters?

On BJ21, young "Little Joe" reported rolling only 1/9 sevens at home, much less that the 1/7 by chance. Stanford teamed up with him, and Fezzik and I bet they could not roll a low number of sevens. During the challenge, Stanford rolling an average number of sevens, and Little Joe did well, winning a bit.

After this, a team flew Little Joe out and put him up in Vegas (with comps). They took him out to tables and Joe rolled too many sevens. Eventually, his cumulative monitored rolls were worse than chance, and the group gave up. Afterwards Joe complained the tables were too bouncy, too soft, too long, too short. He wanted another free vacation.

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Great Story Kim Lee. God, I wish there was more of these kinds of stories on this forum and less of the anti-AP crew trying to demonize and drive away real players.

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And we found out kim lee is friends with fezzik. That's really going to make redietz' day. LOL!

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LOL. Or it'll make Fezzik's.

If that's true, I can see where some of The White "Kim Lee" (sorry, I can't abide by white folks playing at Asian names) attitude comes from. Mickey, you're not going to live long enough to where I tell the tale (I probably won't either), but Fezzik, who is arguably the greatest NFL contest player to ever live, has done some things that have gotten him up to his neck in hot water. Which led to his sort-of-self-imposed exile from big-time wagering for a long time.

If "Kim Lee" and Fezzik read this, they know whereof I speak. In fact, I think it may be time to shut down the lines of communication because I can see why Kim Lee is a tad triggered by me. Now I get it.

Fezzik has done some great, truly impressive things, up to the point where he broke a few rules and, bluntly, fucked up big-time.

I was (very, very briefly -- LOL) considered for the position that led to Fezzik's fucking up. But it was clear as a bell I was not the man for the job. Neither, it turns out, was Fezzik. Not sure the illustrious "Kim Lee" gets all this, but he can ask his bud when he has a chance.

Good to know, mickey. Saves me some typing. Much appreciated. Puts things in perspective.

One question Redietz. Are we ANY closer to having picked a date for this interview? The time for all this talk is long gone. Pick a fucking date and lets get this done.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

REDietz should appear on the program. If he has indeed done this all his adult life it seems like he would be a great candidate for the show.

We have lying male prostitutes like UNKewlJ who pretend that they do this, and others who claim they do this part time or have done it for part of their lives, but REDietz is the real deal!

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

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Originally Posted by Kim Lee

Let me tell you the stories of Stanford Wong and AxelWolf's craps table. Stanford was promoting this silly dice control theory. It is based on the "blanket roll" concept that if you roll the dice like wagon wheels, then you will eliminate or at least suppress the numbers on the axles. Some guys on the the BJ21 page rented a professional slow-motion movie camera. Even with the softest roll, dice bounced chaotically with no hope of preserving any of the original orientation.

Nevertheless, people continued to practice throwing dice. I saw AxelWolf's table at April's house. April's husband practiced assiduously on that table. He also had a little box to practice while travelling. April's husband came by my house, and we set the box up in my basement. He backed up, threw the dice, and missed the whole box! He then complained that my basement floor was not level. That was probably true, but if you missed a 2-foot box, why would I suspect you can control dice to within millimeters?

On BJ21, young "Little Joe" reported rolling only 1/9 sevens at home, much less that the 1/7 by chance. Stanford teamed up with him, and Fezzik and I bet they could not roll a low number of sevens. During the challenge, Stanford rolling an average number of sevens, and Little Joe did well, winning a bit.

After this, a team flew Little Joe out and put him up in Vegas (with comps). They took him out to tables and Joe rolled too many sevens. Eventually, his cumulative monitored rolls were worse than chance, and the group gave up. Afterwards Joe complained the tables were too bouncy, too soft, too long, too short. He wanted another free vacation.

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So who came up with this stupid theory that KJ was Kim Lee, and who all believed it was true?

Bunch of fucking idiots, cuz there's absolutely zero chance that Kim Lee is KJ, based on this post alone.

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mdaw started it and redietz backed it up.

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This is a red herring response. I never said kewlJ was Kim Lee. I was actually very precise in my PMs to state this clearly.

I said there were Kim Lee posts that were 90% or better to have been written by KewlJ. The evidence was actually startling, and I was a complete idiot to have missed it. Or (Theory 2), as coach suggested, they received identical educations. Or (Theory 3) they are actually The Borg and share a group mind.

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Query: anybody ever actually meet or verify the existence of Frank Scoblete's seemingly invincible "Captain of Craps, aka The
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You can ask AxelWolf to elaborate and correct any details. I heard the Vegas AP's loaned Scoblete's Golden Touch Craps buddies their craps table in exchange for a free private seminar. The Golden Touch instructors started with lessons on money management. The AP's said they just wanted to learn to roll the dice. When the instructors said money management was important, the AP's said "We plan to bet the table max on every roll. How much do you bet?" That shut them up pretty quick.

Y'all need to stop replying to MDawg and Coach Belly. They do nothing but spew uninformed insults.

Forensics aside, where does "Kim Lee" get the idea that UNKewlJ has ever done anything in his life other than lie?

Obviously...straight from the liar's wide loose mouth.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

Nothing you have to say may overcome your association with a known sociopathic liar.

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KewlJ, you have repeatedly lied on this and other forums. You have admitted to many of these lies.

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kewlJ has also been caught in a lot of lies over time, both on this forum and elsewhere. Therefore, it is unclear if he really makes much (or anything) playing blackjack these days.

kewlJ is basically the Boy Who Cried Wolf of these AP forums. He has lied so many times that it's impossible to believe any stories he tells.

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Your judgment stinks.

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As for Mdog, who has used this thread, to up his continue his attacks on me and axelwolf and now up his attacks on mickeycrimm and Kim Lee.

What does that tell you people?

The guy has claimed years and years of casino winning with absolutely ZERO explanation of anything mathematical that even remotely explain his claims. Forget that the casinos would never allow this nonsense. I mean that latest thing that he has settled on after 5 or 6 attempts at explanations, is that he is "rainman".

END of Story!

Really the story ended several years ago, when as a real player with at least one connection in this town, I was able to get a hold of his actual records. And for a 7 month period that he claimed over a million dollars in winnings, he was in the red. Just knowing I had the actual records he panicked and we got that backtracked "about even" moment from him. :D

In a repeat of that, I have once again been given his real records for a specific period of time that he claimed a million dollars in winnings.....January of this year, 2025. And again the records show him in the red. :rolleyes: Because I have already shown my hand and he knows I will not publicly post the records which would jeopardize another party, he almost assuredly won't panic like he did last time. But it is enough for me, that he KNOWS that I know the truth.

So why should any of us spend one more second on this low life LOSING troll. There is absolutely nothing special about him. As you all are witness to, people have been making these kinds of math defying bullshit claims since long before I have been around.

Losing degenerate gamblers are quite a bunch. Why the fuck don't they just stop all that bullshit and actually learn something that might allow them to win a little instead of all this make beleive shit, Mdog does. ? Fucking retards!

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The UNKewl one was a liar, and like most liars, he was constantly changing his stories, altering time and personnel from one telling to the next. One time he would tell a story about someone, next time he would switch the story around to give himself the lead. He would sit in the casino coffee shop over coffee and pound cake, talking at random about his experiences, posting constantly on internet forums, plotting ways to take down all those he is envious of, never actually entering the casino, afraid like a nervous poodle to even play.

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Very well written summary, MDawg.

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quick.

Y'all need to stop replying to MDawg and Coach Belly. They do nothing but spew uninformed insults.

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Of course you are correct, Kim Lee.

Will really try hard to.

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Puppets like KewlJ give me the horrors. They jerk around like puppets on invisible strings, galvanized into hideous activity that is the negation of everything living and spontaneous.

The live human being has moved out of KewlJ’s body long ago. But something moved in when the original tenant moved out. And that something, is the Norm’s, The WizardsofVegas, the RobSingers, the Taters/Moses, the MDawgs who marched into KewlJ’s head and took over like ventriloquists' dummies who have moved in and taken over the ventriloquist. The dummy KewlJ sits there in front of the computer, envious, jealous, obsessed, and uncontrollably yapping out of a rigid doll face about MDawg.

There is a certain kind of ghost that can only materialize with the aid of a sheet or other piece of cloth to give it outline. KewlJ was like that. He materialized only when someone else moved into his head and gave him a reason to appear.

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KewlJ, you are the chief architect of the insanity, friendo.

You have unmanaged/untreated OCD. You could benefit from gambling addiction programs because there is a lot of overlap between OCD and gambling addiction, as well as their respective treatments.

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Originally Posted by redietz

If "Kim Lee" and Fezzik read this, they know whereof I speak. In fact, I think it may be time to shut down the lines of communication because I can see why Kim Lee is a tad triggered by me. Now I get it.

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Please spare us the bullshit, redietz. It's the other way around. And you ain't just a tad triggered by Kim Lee. You got massively triggered by him to the point you started implying he and KJ were the same. Those kinds of deflections by you are easy to see. So why do you go through the motions?

BTW, Lee has been an American surname (european origin) since the 1600's. There was even a Lee that signed the Declaration.

Kim is short for Kimberly.

The Chinese surname is spelled Li.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Mickey apparently doesn't understand what a sock puppet is. A sock puppet is one person using multiple handles or accounts, not multiple people using one account.

There is no rule against multiple people using the same account.

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Originally Posted by MisterV

Query: anybody ever actually meet or verify the existence of Frank Scoblete's seemingly invincible "Captain of Craps, aka The
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You can ask AxelWolf to elaborate and correct any details. I heard the Vegas AP's loaned Scoblete's Golden Touch Craps buddies their craps table in exchange for a free private seminar. The Golden Touch instructors started with lessons on money management. The AP's said they just wanted to learn to roll the dice. When the instructors said money management was important, the AP's said "We plan to bet the table max on every roll. How much do you bet?" That shut them up pretty quick.

Y'all need to stop replying to MDawg and Coach Belly. They do nothing but spew uninformed insults.

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Basically along those lines. If Mr V wants more details he should go look at the wizard of Vegas Forum craps thread, it's been discussed and more.

FYI Ahighs craps table is sitting in my other partners house.

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Originally Posted by redietz

If "Kim Lee" and Fezzik read this, they know whereof I speak. In fact, I think it may be time to shut down the lines of communication because I can see why Kim Lee is a tad triggered by me. Now I get it.

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Please spare us the bullshit, redietz. It's the other way around. And you ain't just a tad triggered by Kim Lee. You got massively triggered by him to the point you started implying he and KJ were the same. Those kinds of deflections by you are easy to see. So why do you go through the motions?

BTW, Lee has been an American surname (european origin) since the 1600's. There was even a Lee that signed the Declaration.

Kim is short for Kimberly.

The Chinese surname is spelled Li.

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Mickey, nobody is going to dispute what I posted because they can't. It's as simple as that. It's a brutal, horrible narrative, distasteful to me. So PM your friends and see if I'm correct. Then type whatever nonsense you want and pretend whatever you want.