WHy Do They Lie?

We've recently observed KJ get caught in a big lie, and MDawg and SInger in particular are piling on like flies on shit.

Which is only understandable, as KJ has accused THEM of lying for years.

Open-eyed forum members have long known that both MDawg and Singer have told whoppers about their claimed gambling success, which I suppose is what the typical liar would claim on a gambling forum.

Oddly though, KJ didn't lie about any gambling success: he lied about failing, not winning.

He didn't claim he went on a huge run: he lied about being caught and then being injured while being back rooomed.

I'm no shrink, but I DO see that there is a difference in what motivates these three forum members to prevaricate.

IMHO: MDawg lies in order to be perceived as "the bull of the woods," the one guy the casinos kow-tow to; he has money and is bored with life; he might lie at least in part as a mental exercise, penning new chapters of fiction to post on his blog / website.

Singer lies because of the opposite reason: he isn't rich and wants to be seen as successful and powerful, having the near-powers of god to smite his detractors.

Of the two, Robert's situation is more dire because I question whether he, unlike MDawg, clearly recognizes the motivation for his actions.

KJ, in contrast, lies because it fits in the drama he wishes to surround himself with.

His primary motivation is not to be perceived as successful, but as being resourceful and dexterous in the face of adversity, i.e. a survivor.

Three men, three reasons, three less than honorable results.

MrV, I have a slightly different opinion about 2 of your 3 "characters".

When Singer started his long list of fabricated claims and this was way before my time, back when he wrote a column for Gambling weekly and wrote his "book", Rob was out to impress people with something that wasn't true....that he was a successful gambler. At the time his claim was 10 years of playing what he called the Singer progression system.

As time when on, fewer and fewer people believed this claim. By this time, I was in the picture and Singer came up with his double up bug claim stolen from Kane and Nestor. He had to revise the timeline of everything he said to make this claim fit. THIS is when I believe Singer switched from really trying to convince people, to just playing a troll game. This is about the time he came up with the Newell story, and posted a phony bill of sale, and eventually pictures from an RV dealership and a campground that he snuck up on another RV that didn't even match. So it started out him really trying to convince people that he was something he was not and at some point turned into just a game for him....a long running troll if you will.

Mdawg I really can't begin to figure out. Like Dan Druff, I wonder why he couldn't have just shared his story of a higher limit player that receives higher end comps. Why did he have to make up all that winning, which is not how any of it works. Again, I can't answer that....Only he can. But I beleive a hint is in the title of his thread that he ran simultaneously at 3-4 different forums.....The ADVENTURES of Mdawg. That almost tells you before you have read a word, that the story is going to be rather spectacular, doesn't it? I mean how great an "adventure" would it be if he had honestly shared the experiences of a player who won AND LOST, like gambling really works?

What I don't know is where it was supposed to go after he got started? He doesn't seem to have or prepared an end game to this great "adventure". Was the intent for a book, or movie script that has now all but blown up, explaining why he is so angry. I honestly don't know or really care. All I did, was like others said, sorry dude, "that is not the way it works". I just repeated it a little longer than some of the others. :rolleyes:

The UNKewLyingJ is the only one who was not only caught in multiple lies, but even finally was forced to admit to nonstop lying over a three month period, and did so admit?

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

It is a little less interesting now that kewlJ admitted that there was no actual lawsuit.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

You're definitely someone who isn't adverse to lying on forums if it suits you to do so.

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And poor little naughty kew will keep on whining and lying about me until he dives into his awaiting--and very merciful--grave.

Hahahahaha!

So I have recently been reading through old threads and even browsing GamblingForums. (Thank you Mdawg)

https://www.gamblingforums.com/threa...ig-score.6968/

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So on a road trip, we visited a casino we had never played before, and likely never will again. They had a promotion offering free play to new player card sign-ups and they matched tiers from other casinos, so we qualified for $50 free play each.

So, there was a restriction that the free play could not be used on video poker as we intended, so my partner played a progressive slot and somehow, hit a low 6 figure jackpot. :)

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Guess who.

This comes on $50 freeplay. Presumably he was not trying to maximize variance by betting it all on one spin. So Kewl is telling us he hit probably a 50,000x unit jackpot during $50 of coinin.

Axel asks what the machine was? Kewl didn't answer.

The best part ?

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I am not posting the picture as my partner is in the picture. lol. I didn't take the pic for purposes of posting it...just a personal memento. I generally don't do the posting picture thing. I am not proving anything. If people want to believe me, believe me, if they don't, then don't. Doesn't matter to me.

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You know of course he wouldn't bother to crop his "partner" out. lol. You know he doesn't care if people believe him.

It is insane to me people have seen this guy post for more than a year or 2 would believe his nonsense. I've only known 1 guy to win a 6 figure jackpot and I'm sure the bet was relatively big and he is a sick degenerate. The Indians didn't want to pay him either. Was to be paid in an annuity (fine print) to an older guy who is unlikely to be around 20 years. They 'negotiated' a settlement.

In Kewl's world though .. $50 Freeplay -> small bets (presumably) -> 100k+ jackpot but hey lets not mention the game or show even a picture... good stuff.

And I'm not even LOOKING for his posts. Who knows how many other gems are out there.

Clearly a compulsive liar. Couldn't hold back from a simple 5 figure jackpot. He had to go for it.

Rob isn't a compulsive liar. Rob has just been on a lifelong quest to gain respect as a winning bettor. The *only* way he can accomplish this is with bullshit.

I had forgotten how hard Rob tries until I was looking at older threads that have potential to be interesting.. then you come across this stuff and you remember how hard he tries to convince people. He came back from GamblingFonies once he realized the coast was clear and everyone was working Kewl over.

2 peas of the same pod. Rob actually bothered to get a book published with rubbish. Who is more full of shit between those 2? It is hard to say but the book gives respect to Rob for the extra effort.

Truly a tough call.

The best part !?! The thread is pinned !!

And I don't think there is a scent of irony. Lol @ gamblingfonies. Redietz over there too strawmanning it up acting he has a clue. Him and Kewl giving each other under the waistline <ahem> massages over their shared expertise in EV while getting a somewhat embarrassing amount of their discussion simply wrong.

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

So I have recently been reading through old threads and even browsing GamblingForums. (Thank you Mdawg)

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Mdawg is STILL PMing you, working the PM system to try to get you to join him in his continuing troll effort. Might be even sadder that you have accepted and join him in this quest. :( You are now full blown troll now AinQ, PMing and stargazing with Mdawg to stalk me. So I am putting you on ignore, just as I did Singer, Mdawg and Blackhole (at GF) earlier this week. I am just not going to bother with you fucktards anymore. Ive wasted way too much time on people like you. So do what you like. Prove beyond a doubt what an ass you are.

That hit resulted in a pretty big write-up in the newspaper back East where it occurred. It didn't include my name but did include my partners name and some details. I guess I am lucky that was pre-Mdawg stalking me, as he might have been able to piece together some info to have helped him on his quest.

That incident also resulted in one of the more unpleasant issues in my long relationship with my partner. He didn't want to split this win with my brother who wasn't on that trip with us, even though we had an agreement that the 3 of us were partners on all machine play. I had the final say and ruled in favor of splitting with my brother and my partner resented that and my brother for the next 11 months until he passed away. Money can really bring out the worst in people.

This hit is also why when my partner passed away 11 months later, I decided to take 100k and split it among his 3 adult sons, even though they had no real relationship. It just seemed like the right thing to do. I felt like he contributed to my overall earnings and that money should go to his heirs.

Lol. You didn't even mention the 6 figure game but I guess that would have 'outed' you because someone would be able to cross reference it with the newspaper back East. ???

re: Mdawg and myself are tight. He's a real gambler. I respect that. After you took a 17 hour breather from the forums we both became very very concerned. We wanted to call in a welfare check but contrary to your bullshit you have never actually been doxxed so we couldn't. We did however worry. Mdawg's aight though. You too buddy. It is just good to be here with you people. Doesn't matter if you're a winner or a loser. We were both concerned about you bud.

What is crazy to me is how you see yourself as on some mission to counter liars. You see yourself as being crucified getting the word out. I'm not going to bother quoting because I'm really not going out of my way to look at every little thing you say. I still don't know who Norm Whataburger is but wow. lol.

Another interesting thing with you Kewl is that your lying is not part of a standard long con. You've been doing this forever now and it had given you so much credibility your bullshit meter got stuck and you stopped being able to discern a whopper from something reasonable.

Seriously though most people into such a long con would have ended up working some angle and taken off with the money.

Many years ago someone was on a long con and got a lot of people on the forum. He didn't even try to befriend me. I'm like krptonite to bullshit but the downside is I also get it wrong sometimes. It is easy enough to doubt everything and be right where others are wrong but one can wind up being more wrong than everyone.

50,000x + unit bet.
Hired programmer who figured out a secret that'd sink a billion dollar company in ... minutes !!
Counts 3 tables at once at times !!!

Love you, man. Regardless of it all, you're a character and IMO beloved on the forums. In some ways my respect for you has went up just because how many people believed you. Singer could never pull that off and he'd love to have been able to do so.

This whole gambling forum circus thing is great.

That GamblingFonies forum is something else. I came across one of those goofy press releases you can buy for a hundo. Wow! They were laying it on thick from the start. Good stuff if you share my sicko humor.

And yes Rob, I saw you trying to get a rise out of me. Rest assured - I am in no way trying to fake having a life. Living around some casinos in podunky America kinda assures this I have no life.

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This hit is also why when my partner passed away 11 months later, I decided to take 100k and split it among his 3 adult sons, even though they had no real relationship. It just seemed like the right thing to do. I felt like he contributed to my overall earnings and that money should go to his heirs.

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Love the decorative icing to finish it off. You got that flair baby.

Kewl here let me tell you a bit about EV.

Sharp people realize it will always have context.

We agree what EV means in standard games of random chance, yes.

There will be other domains where EV is clearly the closest term that the sharp people mutually understand.

The question is NEVER "You know that isn't mathematically provable EV, right?".
The question would be "How do you calculate your EV?".

That is what is going on as EV. Every sharp person fucking knows it comes down to some opinions of someone somewhere. Everyone with half a brain understands all this.

It is Redietz defending that ant hill.

But what I really wanted to tell you is you need to stop listening to Redietz because he has you confused.

I'm pretty sure it is the case that if you believe you can calculate the EV of bonuses and promotions then you will almost always have know the EV of the bets required to actually come up with a EV # for the promo. So you can't really have the EV of a promo without believing you can also come up with EV for a game.

Why is this so hard.

Here is another anthill Redietz loves. That book lines are always "to balance action". Yes most books do this. What Redietz doesn't seem to even be aware of is that there are sharp models. Again - these guys don't limit to the same degree.
If you are a well financed book then you can do this.

Yet Redietz likes to reiterate that lines are there to balance actions and yadda yadda. Who exactly is he trying to convince and of what exactly!?

He is right that pretty much everytime someone says EV what they really mean is "EV estimation" but it is just redundant. No one is trying to prove they understand this little nuance. It is all implied.

The short of it is Redietz needs to get a clue.

... and stop listening to him !

Referring to your personal estimates/guesses/speculations as "EV" is the height of arrogance. Comical arrogance, but arrogance nonetheless. Imposing some kind of precise math terms on imprecise processes doesn't imbue those processes with added precision.

Using past results of sporting events in calculations of "EV" is completely wrong. It has no mathematical basis. You have no idea what is going into the calculation of any given pointspread, given that pointspreads are designed to balance action, not evaluate teams. What applied yesterday or the day before or for a decade or for a century may or may not have any relevance for today's games.

In sports betting, outside of bonus analysis or pure arbitrage, laying on some "EV" jive just means you are making shit up, as most people looking for an excuse to gamble, or to call themselves "APs," tend to do.

I get a kick out of some folks. They argue that, oh yeah, well this spread is off by two points, so I'll whack the hell out of it. Then you give them a reason that particular line is two points different, and they freeze in their tracks.

And by the way, I did receive an invitation to The Wise Guys Contest, which is back after a two-year pandemic hiatus. About 60 people received invitations. I am technically retired, so I'm leaning to passing on it this season, but it's nice to be recognized as worthy of an invite. The Wise Guys Contest is about 35 years old. I think I've had the best college ATS record overall for the 30 years I was in it. My NFL games may have dragged me down to second or third overall, depending on method of calculation.

I love account. He said people should be analyzing actual pointspread results to identify correlations with winning. He's a genius. About 30 years behind the times, but a genius nonetheless.

On my 66th birthday, I leave you guys with this:

Some people win in public under their own names for 45 years. And some people win in public under their own names for 45 years and get tagged for invitation-only contests reserved for the best in their business. And some of those same people work as sports gambling consultants for filmmakers and writers.

Other people, with not a shred of public evidence that they've won anything doing anything, hold court anonymously and explain that the people who've won publicly for 45 years are wrong and why those people are wrong and folks should stop listening to them. They explain that the filmmakers and writers and industry professionals in business for 50 years are wrong about the alleged experts.

It's up to readers to figure things out.

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Originally Posted by redietz

Referring to your personal estimates/guesses/speculations as "EV" is the height of arrogance. Comical arrogance, but arrogance nonetheless. Imposing some kind of precise math terms on imprecise processes doesn't imbue those processes with added precision.

Using past results of sporting events in calculations of "EV" is completely wrong. It has no mathematical basis. You have no idea what is going into the calculation of any given pointspread, given that pointspreads are designed to balance action, not evaluate teams. What applied yesterday or the day before or for a decade or for a century may or may not have any relevance for today's games.

In sports betting, outside of bonus analysis or pure arbitrage, laying on some "EV" jive just means you are making shit up, as most people looking for an excuse to gamble, or to call themselves "APs," tend to do.

I get a kick out of some folks. They argue that, oh yeah, well this spread is off by two points, so I'll whack the hell out of it. Then you give them a reason that particular line is two points different, and they freeze in their tracks.

And by the way, I did receive an invitation to The Wise Guys Contest, which is back after a two-year pandemic hiatus. About 60 people received invitations. I am technically retired, so I'm leaning to passing on it this season, but it's nice to be recognized as worthy of an invite. The Wise Guys Contest is about 35 years old. I think I've had the best college ATS record overall for the 30 years I was in it. My NFL games may have dragged me down to second or third overall, depending on method of calculation.

I love account. He said people should be analyzing actual pointspread results to identify correlations with winning. He's a genius. About 30 years behind the times, but a genius nonetheless.

On my 66th birthday, I leave you guys with this:

Some people win in public under their own names for 45 years. And some people win in public under their own names for 45 years and get tagged for invitation-only contests reserved for the best in their business. And some of those same people work as sports gambling consultants for filmmakers and writers.

Other people, with not a shred of public evidence that they've won anything doing anything, hold court anonymously and explain that the people who've won publicly for 45 years are wrong and why those people are wrong and folks should stop listening to them. They explain that the filmmakers and writers and industry professionals in business for 50 years are wrong about the alleged experts.

It's up to readers to figure things out.

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And some people who are the best at what they do are willing to show the money at anytime without needing the recognition from strangers.

Clout chasers need recognition


People selling picks or needing “investors” are fraudulent. You are a Vegas Dave type as far as I can tell. The only difference is you have connections to notorious people like Jerry Sandusky. O and a shit hole Italian restaurant near Grantvile.

Yeah bookies make money so what. So do drug dealers and ?

You Comrade can’t even show the money. Yawn

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I am pretty sure something about this case will hit the news very shortly, as I have been contacted by email and text by one local TV News station here in Vegas. I didn't respond to either contact. I can't provide the information they are probably seeking. I don't know if they can get their hands on video, but if they do, I am sure this will be mentioned on the local news. At this point I don't even care, even if they name me.

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That hit resulted in a pretty big write-up in the newspaper back East where it occurred. It didn't include my name but did include my partners name and some details.

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Same lie, different day. Never any backup other than something he claims to have heard or seen, never any proof.

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What you have to do, to begin to get your arms around this whopper, is try to enter the mind of a compulsive liar like UNKewlJ. In his twisted mind, his coming up with some new, different explanation in an ever changing story, makes sense and somehow adds credibility. To anyone with any sense, it just deepens and darkens the cloud over his credibility, and makes his story more of a confirmed whopper.

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

I don't think you'll ever give up your lying. It is too much ingrained in who you are. What I would suggest is you not do that shit around people who by and large are quite sharp.

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Every day is a different lie.

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I don't think there was any incident which was lawsuit-worthy, which is why we got so many changing and bizarre versions of the same story.

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His inability to grasp that if he simply admitted that he made up the entire backrooming incident, drew some kind of composite story from what happened to others and gave himself the lead, would lead to some semblance of believability, is a function of his being a compulsive liar.

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Originally Posted by redietz

Referring to your personal estimates/guesses/speculations as "EV" is the height of arrogance. Comical arrogance, but arrogance nonetheless. Imposing some kind of precise math terms on imprecise processes doesn't imbue those processes with added precision.

Using past results of sporting events in calculations of "EV" is completely wrong. It has no mathematical basis. You have no idea what is going into the calculation of any given pointspread, given that pointspreads are designed to balance action, not evaluate teams. What applied yesterday or the day before or for a decade or for a century may or may not have any relevance for today's games.

In sports betting, outside of bonus analysis or pure arbitrage, laying on some "EV" jive just means you are making shit up, as most people looking for an excuse to gamble, or to call themselves "APs," tend to do.

I get a kick out of some folks. They argue that, oh yeah, well this spread is off by two points, so I'll whack the hell out of it. Then you give them a reason that particular line is two points different, and they freeze in their tracks.

And by the way, I did receive an invitation to The Wise Guys Contest, which is back after a two-year pandemic hiatus. About 60 people received invitations. I am technically retired, so I'm leaning to passing on it this season, but it's nice to be recognized as worthy of an invite. The Wise Guys Contest is about 35 years old. I think I've had the best college ATS record overall for the 30 years I was in it. My NFL games may have dragged me down to second or third overall, depending on method of calculation.

I love account. He said people should be analyzing actual pointspread results to identify correlations with winning. He's a genius. About 30 years behind the times, but a genius nonetheless.

On my 66th birthday, I leave you guys with this:

Some people win in public under their own names for 45 years. And some people win in public under their own names for 45 years and get tagged for invitation-only contests reserved for the best in their business. And some of those same people work as sports gambling consultants for filmmakers and writers.

Other people, with not a shred of public evidence that they've won anything doing anything, hold court anonymously and explain that the people who've won publicly for 45 years are wrong and why those people are wrong and folks should stop listening to them. They explain that the filmmakers and writers and industry professionals in business for 50 years are wrong about the alleged experts.

It's up to readers to figure things out.

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It isn't arrogance when everyone else knows what you are talking about. You just don't understand. That is all that needs to be said.

On GamblingFonies that I said something about the EV of a sports event. No, it is the EV of the bet .. or EV of an event if you have the line I suppose.

The fact is you can take historical pointspread and subsequent outcomes to make valid statistical inferences. So if you know that when the spread is -3.5 the result was -2 13.23% of the time then that can be used. This is how you could determine whether a novel teaser is +EV or not or many other related things.

"You give them a reason that particular line is two points different and they freeze in their tracks". Lol. Do you step out of the mist filled corner with your fedora on when this happens?

Yes it isn't perfect. Not claiming it is. That doesn't make it invalid.

Keep defending the anthills Redietz. lol

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His inability to grasp that if he simply admitted that he made up the entire backrooming incident, drew some kind of composite story from what happened to others and gave himself the lead, would lead to some semblance of believability, is a function of his being a compulsive liar.

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Yea poor feller. He avoids some details when he can't provide them. Like what was this 100k+ game. It is actually quite rare to have a 100k+ up top jackpot and be a game you're spinning off $50 FP with. If you're going to bother gettiing the FP you're not going to spin it off in $5 spins.

However he just can't help himself when it comes to other details where he can't foresee that they obviously hurt his story. Yet he has to do it.

It is really quite impressive that so many people more or less believed the guy for so many years.

What AxelWolf said is actually pretty well thought out and spot on.

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Everything and anything he has ever said will come into question and years of his forum adventures in BJ and life will be labeled as fiction.

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But now we haven't any clue as to what was/is true when it comes to you:(

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What he means of course is that suddenly it all makes sense...the pattern of, as MaxPen put it, looking at your last few stories they will see a trend in you always changing the story after you get caught lying.

People (not all, but some) just assumed that because he was yapping constantly about this or that that he must know what he is talking about and telling the truth.

And then, now, we all see clearly, as DanDruff put it, kewlJ has a history of hoaxes and a lot of what you write could be total fiction. You're definitely someone who isn't adverse to lying on forums if it suits you to do so. Notice the word that DanDruff uses, and not lightly, total. Total fiction.

It's like the lights suddenly went on and now all the people, versus just some of the people, understand why UNKewLyingJ always spoke in generalities and theories and almost never described a single hand of actual blackjack play. Why he as BlackHole put it after 20 years of posting has never produced one iota of proof about anything he ever claimed or ever said. Not even a picture. It all makes sense now - he's been lying right and left about a lot of things, and freely offering up made up nonsense to back up his lies, until finally, he was caught.

Mission146 on the UNKEWL one: you had a very long history that gave you some credibility on the forums. Now, you've lied about everything. Convincingly. Why should I believe anything a person says who has supposedly lied about literally everything except for that because...reasons?

etc. etc.

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Dude is a fraud.

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I mean the guy can't even admit that he cares what people think about him.

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I really don't care what people think about me.

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Someone who lies even about something so obvious, is incapable of being honest with himself, let alone with others.

https://youtu.be/Qz6wHELTkr8

I understand that Mdawg is in his glory right now. I called him out for years and this is his chance for revenge. The difference is that I called him out on claims that defied math. And later the way Las Vegas works, like the $100-$5000 spread nonsense). Everything I have ever claimed and shared about my blackjack results stand the test of the mathematics. And for good reason. That has to be the very low bar....does the math work or does what the person claims defy the mathematics.

Mdawg continues to post a quote from axelwolf (posted above), in which Axelwolf responded to him with:

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I don't appropriate the fact that you are quoting me out of context and weaponizing it. That was said in conjunction with why he should attempt to provide some proof if he cares about that. Bold if you will, bold if you must, but If you can do me a favor and quote the full thrust.

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If we are going to quote Axelwolf and Dan Druff, here are a couple:

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KJ,

I think someone touched on this point a bit as to why isn't/hasn't Rob and MDawg being raked over the coals as much as you.
They are not Advantage Players

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Here are my conclusions:

With that said, there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabcricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete.

Do I think MDawg is winning? No. I think he probably has some money (maybe not as much as he claims), likes to gamble, likes the high roller treatment, and wants to present himself as a guy who gets all this AND wins, rather than just a chump who is getting lavish treatment because he's dumping money.

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Do I believe he was truthful about his casino exploits? Obviously not. I believe him to be more of a casino whale than anything else, and not an AP or winning long term gambler. For whatever reason he wants to live a fantasy on these boards that he is a big winner. He simply likes to tell tall tales.

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I mean the guy can't even admit that he cares what people think about him.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

I really don't care what people think about me.

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Someone who lies even about something so obvious, is incapable of being honest with himself, let alone with others.

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Until the day comes when UNKewLyingJ at least admits that he cares so much about what people think about him that he's kept awake at nights trying to think up new lies to try to back up his old lies, there will be no evidence of movement away from his compulsive lying.

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

Looks like you were up all night and realized there wasn't one single sealed case on the court docket.:cool:

If people go back and look at your last few stories they will see a trend in you always changing the story after you get caught lying.

At this point you have less credibility than week old gas station sushi. Give it up. It's just making you look pathetic at this point.

Oh well, at least you apologized for lying to MrV. Who the fuck asks to consult with someone and have them give them their time for a lie? Mentally ill is the only answer I can come up with.

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I understand that Mdawg is in his glory right now. I called him out for years and this is his chance for revenge. The difference is that I called him out on claims that defied math. And later the way Las Vegas works, like the $100-$5000 spread nonsense). Everything I have ever claimed and shared about my blackjack results stand the test of the mathematics. And for good reason. That has to be the very low bar....does the math work or does what the person claims defy the mathematics.

Mdawg continues to post a quote from axelwolf (posted above), in which Axelwolf responded to him with:



If we are going to quote Axelwolf and Dan Druff, here are a couple:

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Here are my conclusions:

With that said, there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabcricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete.

Do I think MDawg is winning? No. I think he probably has some money (maybe not as much as he claims), likes to gamble, likes the high roller treatment, and wants to present himself as a guy who gets all this AND wins, rather than just a chump who is getting lavish treatment because he's dumping money.

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Do I believe he was truthful about his casino exploits? Obviously not. I believe him to be more of a casino whale than anything else, and not an AP or winning long term gambler. For whatever reason he wants to live a fantasy on these boards that he is a big winner. He simply likes to tell tall tales.

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Why don't you name this slot that you supposedly hit for over 100k?

I never saw that claim before. If I had, it would have made sense why so many people pegged you for the fraud that you are years ago.

I assume that when it comes to providing any independently verifiable evidence, he'll revert to the

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excuse, giving us some roundabout, extended spiel about how he doesn't need to prove anything and doesn't care.

But that's all contradicted by the lengths to which he will go and has gone to try to present and back up his stories with lies that he hopes no one will be able to investigate.

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Had MaxPen not done his searching, we would probably still be reading long essays about the lawsuits, and how we are all fools to be doubting it.

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Why don't you name this slot that you supposedly hit for over 100k?

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Any information I provided at the time, or even now, 6 years later, would only serve to lead people back to me and my identity.

Additionally, I have no desire to prove anything to you or other trolls MaxPen. Anything I provided would not be acceptable to you anyway.

And Yes, I am including you with the trolls, the likes of Mdawg, Singer, AccountinQuestion and Belly, now Maxpen. You had every right to look into the lawsuit portion of my backroom incident as you did. But now you have just gone full blown troll.

I trust that your claim that I play red chip level was an honest mistake....that you honestly think or though someone else was me. But you are dead wrong. I asked you to look at the OSN database, which I assume you have or can get access to and see if I am the person you were/are thinking of. But you haven't done so, nor reported back. It seems all you want to do is jump in and troll.

Bbbbwwwaaaaaahhhh, so the kewl-J claim to capture a 100ks machine jacks-pot from runnin of 50 bucks in frees-play? I guess that some cats just can't help them-selves, hey hey!

For the most part, I have responded to Mdawg using his forum handles, with a few trolling variations on occassion, but mostly Mdawg or Mdog.

He has shown me no such respect, calling me every name in the book. From now on, any posts he makes about me, using something that is not my real handle, will be met with a response of me referring to him as sand nigger.

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Bbbbwwwaaaaaahhhh, so the kewl-J claim to capture a 100ks machine jacks-pot from runnin of 50 bucks in frees-play? I guess that some cats just can't help them-selves, hey hey!

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No, my partner hit that jackpot, over 6 years ago. We were out of town, received sign up bonus free play and there was no video Poker at the location, which is what we normally ran our free play through, so he played on a progressive jackpot machine. I shared the experience (as much as I could) at the time on 2 different forums. It is just now, people are on a witch hunt.

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For the most part, I have responded to Mdawg using his forum handles, with a few trolling variations on occassion, but mostly Mdawg or Mdog.

He has shown me no such respect, calling me every name in the book. From now on, any posts he makes about me, using something that is not my real handle, will be met with a response of me referring to him as sand nigger.

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LMAO Kewl demanding respect as a gutter fighter !!!!

Get'em Kewl. Don't take this shit !!!

I know nothing about slot machines, what makes them +EV, which is the only way I would play one, which is why I have been reading some of the slot machine discussions by mickeycrimm and others with some interest.

I think I played a slot machine one time in my life, for $20 when some friends were in town as we left the buffet. It was one of those ridiculously big slot machines, that almost seems like a novelty type thing. Each of us put $20 in for 4 spins. No one won a cent.

So when we discovered the casino that had given us the sign up bonus free play had no video poker, I just told my partner to pick a slot machine. he picked a progressive with a large jackpot. When it hit, the machine locked up, so I knew it was a handpay, but looking at the big board, I was still not convinced it was the big jackpot. Not until an army of attendents showed up.

I always try to be respectful with everyone until long after they start attacking and calling names. Then I will return fire. And my challenges of people are always about how their claims don't work mathematically. It isn't personal with me until someone else makes it personal.

You can not like someone. You can not believe someone. You can challenge their claims. You can state that you don't believe them and why. But there is just no reason for the personal attacks and name calling that many of you people immediately go to. It does nothing to enhance whatever your opinion that you are stating is. It is just 3rd grade bullshit that gives a few guys here a hard-on, because they never moved on from third grade.

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Bbbbwwwaaaaaahhhh, so the kewl-J claim to capture a 100ks machine jacks-pot from runnin of 50 bucks in frees-play? I guess that some cats just can't help them-selves, hey hey!

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No, my partner hit that jackpot, over 6 years ago. We were out of town, received sign up bonus free play and there was no video Poker at the location, which is what we normally ran our free play through, so he played on a progressive jackpot machine. I shared the experience (as much as I could) at the time on 2 different forums. It is just now, people are on a witch hunt.

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A themed progressive?

I am truly glad you came back to us kewlJ.

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I always try to be respectful with everyone until long after they start attacking and calling names. Then I will return fire. And my challenges of people are always about how their claims don't work mathematically. It isn't personal with me until someone else makes it personal.

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Another lie.

Alan politely questioned your "count 2 table" claim, and you flipped out...made it personal, attacking everything about him.

I stood up for Alan , and you accused me of a crime.

You're a fucking lowlife, I've been saying it for years, and now EVERYBODY agrees.

Coach, UNKewLyingJ just got off suicide watch.

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After you took a 17 hour breather from the forums we both became very very concerned. We wanted to call in a welfare check but contrary to your bullshit you have never actually been doxxed so we couldn't. We did however worry.

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He is teetering on the edge lately, notwithstanding his repeated

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He just makes up lies about himself, his past and others. Nonstop.

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You just can't and won't stop. You are a machine of lying.

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He actually has no idea who I am, but he just goes with some nonsense and attaches a racial slur to the nonsense he made up.
https://i.imgur.com/IeBL0YLt.jpg

But when it comes to UNKewLyingJ...he is. In fact!

A liar.

MaxPen on the UNKewl one: Compulsive liar is a fair assessment of what he is.

and as UNKewl as may be!

Ozzy on the UNKewl one: He's very UNKOOL and will remain so, till the end of time. Nothing can ever make him cool whatsoever !


So what's the problem? He created his own moniker. UNKewl. LyingJ.

There's never a dull moment at VCT and GF as long as UNKewLyingJ is here to lie, whine, lie some more, and then whine some more.

RobSinger on the UNKewl one: #1 with this guy is how you can almost SEE & FEEL the puny little twit jumping up and down, screaming like a toddler who just got his baba taken away by a big bad bully. Bonus #2? He posts long-winded, rambling drama-laced "I NEED TO set the record straight or I'll go OUT OF MY MIND!" paragraphs that never seem to satisfy, as he then repeats the same things over and over again.

Just because you can't exactly calculate the EV doesn't mean that it's not there. I ballpark slot game situations all the time.

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Another lie.

Alan politely questioned your "count 2 table" claim, and you flipped out...made it personal, attacking everything about him.

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A lowlife thing to do is to try to drag the Late Alan Mendelson into this. But since you have, Alan did NOT "politely question" my tracking of two tables. He pulled one of the most dishonest stunts I had seen at the time (since surpassed many times), when he posted an intentionally blurry picture, supposed to represent what a player would see at the next table. I am posting the link below. Check out Alan's post #342.

Yes I took offense at Alan's less than honest behavior. But if you read the next several pages, I didn't call him any names. I did eventually call him a troll. Is there anyone that can look at that picture and honestly say that is not the act of someone trolling? Someone intentionally instigating? :confused:

Again, I recommend you read a few pages. It is interesting reading. Alan soon revealed that his big issue was really about something totally unrelated. His 18 y.o. in a row claim. People refused to believe that so he was going to refuse to believe my tracking of a second table. And that was fine. He could believe in the Easter Bunny if he like, but posting that picture was completely dishonest and an act of trolling.

This was the first but certainly not the last time Alan frustrated me. Alan was a person who trolled or instigated. He liked to push buttons. He knew it. Everyone knew it. And a couple times he pushed me too far and I said things I regretted. May he rest in Peace.

https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...-Rebate/page18

Do you even play blackjack in Las Vegas Kewlj?

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Another lie.

Alan politely questioned your "count 2 table" claim, and you flipped out...made it personal, attacking everything about him.

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...the Late Alan Mendelson...He pulled one of the most dishonest stunts I had seen at the time.

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...but posting that picture was completely dishonest.

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I have for the last 14 years. Have only played two nights in last two months now. We'll see how much I am able to play going forward.

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You're a fucking lowlife, I've been saying it for years, and now EVERYBODY agrees.

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Please do not attempt to ascribe your opinion to me; I disagree with your claim that EVERYBODY agrees.

KJ may have lied but lying standing alone does not make one a low life, it makes them a liar.

Yes, lowlifes often lie, but it seems to me that there has to be something more to warrant that appellation.

Lying on Gambling forums? Oh my....say it aint so. ;)

VCT and Gambing forums are sort of linked in my mind. They are both filled with members that originated at WoV and either were banned or left on their own unable to stomach the way WoV was run. And both these forums are essentially troll forums. Many of the people on these forums, AP through recreational gambler, enjoy some trolling. Included in the tolling is some lying and being less than truthful.

Lets start with Singer and Mdawg. Nothing more need be said about their lying.

How about SeedValue and his claims that I am a prostitute?

How about both Mickey and Maxpen who have said very untrue things about each other, repeatedly.

MaxPen, since he has turned on me, has more or less embraced seedvalues lie as a possibility. He KNOWS that is not true.
MaxPen also is wrong about what stakes I play. I hope that is an honest mistake (mistaken identity) rather than an intentional lie, but he is wrong either way.

Coach belly lies and twists everything up intentionally.
I repeated something someone else said about coach belly. I don't know whether that was true, but suspect and hope it wasn't.

The late Kevin Keen (Moses) lied about me for years and then apologized on this deathbed.

EvenBob at WoV and GF, let's not even start.

Has Zenking lied or been untruthful about some of his experiences? Dont know for sure, but some of his experiences don't sound like anything I have ever experienced.

The late Alan Mendelson....saw 18 y.o.'s in a row or so he says.

Monet....well he is just a porkchop. He embraces cheating and lying, so I am sure he has been less than truthful.

Former member here and now member at GF, Blackhole lies about just about every advantage player.

Redeitz? You guys are claiming he has lied for years. I don't know but suspect he at minimum hasn't been truthful about everything, including omission of contests he doesn't do well in.

Tasha...well???

So I lied about the lawsuit part of my backroom incident. I eventually admitted that. I was trying to protect myself. Does that mean everything I have ever said is a lie?

I would hope that I have shared enough of what I do and have done and my knowledge that there isn't any question, at least among real players. But if Maxpen or anyone else wants to question any of it...fine. I think I have demonstrated enough knowledge that they should know the truth. And this isn't stuff read in books. It is knowledge from experience.

Tom Brady lied about the "inflate gate" cheating episode in the playoffs 10 years ago. Does that mean Tom Brady isn't real or knows what he is talking about as far as football? If I owned a team I would pay him to come in and talk to my players and share what he knows.

Look, I am proud of my blackjack career. I was 20 when I started and didn't know a damn thing about blackjack or gambling. I learned everything I know from other players sharing their knowledge and experiences as well as learning from my own experiences. My knowledge is a very narrow field of card counting and in particular what works in Las Vegas. I would say I am an expert in this very narrow area and field. If others that have long ago decided they don't like me, for reasons that have nothing to do with blackjack or gambling don't want to acknowledge that and have an agenda to discredit me...that is on them. Doesn't change anything I do or anything about me. While I am proud of what I have accomplished and where I am presently, I don't need anything from anyone. People can believe whatever they want. Seriously. Doesn't affect me. If I am not well liked on forums...so what? doesn't effect me.

So I have engaged in some trolling on these forums, and returned some name-calling and attacks. So I lied in an attempt to protect myself and would do it again, if I find myself in the same situation.

Get the fuck over it!

The fact that you got so many over on these forum people puts you miles beyond Singer. Singer tried and tried flopping n flailing all about but in the end it was always chuckles. The whole forum was into disproving his lies. It was quite amusing really. Every attempt Singer put out there to be a legitimate gambler ended up being another amusing episode. He tried though. You fucking KILLED IT !!!!!

You got these whoppers pinned in other forums. Lol. The whole story was "My partners and I took $50 freeplay - won $100k+ and had an argument on the shares". Then you had a little jelly for them rolls about how you gave away 100k to your husband's kids. No mention of which game just an army of slot attendants! No mention of how they actually paid you out or the process. Nothing of interest yet those guys forum pinned it. I can just imagine the pride you felt that day, Kewl. I am impressed.

Maybe it is just my ego but I feel like I started this with my insistence you tell Dan Druff the case number so he could verify. Me getting on you about the improbability of breaking an arm. Why am I like that? Why didn't I let it slide? Much like you - I seek out truth. What is our point on these forums is not to keep the truth behind it truthful? The math behind it full of real math!?!

but then there is the flipside - What is a little lying amongst friends here and there? there and here? here and there. there and here.

Seriously though Kewl you're ok by me. Stick around. Next time you want to write some fiction hit me up. At this point in life my experiences are quite broad and my bullshit meter is pretty well attuned. I could be a tremendous help but it is going to be hard going forward. Everyone is going to be a doubter.

Perhaps we could get everyone to agree and we could just rewind and rewrite these story and let them be judged fresh.

That 100k jackpot is 10k.
You couldn't get the shuffler to demonstrate anything and became frustrated and sold it.
Your husband had the heart condition - not you.
You didn't break your arm but they wouldn't let you leave! No ambulance.
You were able to count 3 decks at the kitchen table but completely failed going to 3 tables in real world conditions (but could do 2).
Tell Singer you believe he had a Newell so he'll leave you alone.
You waxed your surfboard - you didn't oil it. (Although I wouldn't have known anything about that)

What the fuck is wrong with you people? AinQ just rattled off 5 or 6 things that are complete bullshit, that he just pulled from thin air. Blackhole did something very similar at GF a bit ago. And you have the nerve to call me a liar.

My partner didn't die if a heart attack or heart disease. He had no heart disease, well at least that I am aware of. He was 260-280 lbs, so he probably did, but was never diagnosed with anything. That was actually a running 'joke' between us, that he was 260+ lbs and had no known heart disease or issues and I was thin, never more than 10 lbs above my high school baseball weight and I had a bad heart valve.

And I did break my arm. What the fuck are you a doctor now AinQ and one that can diagnose without even seeing the patient?

I guess this is the "Trump" world we now live in. Just make up whatever the fuck you want.

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What the fuck is wrong with you people? AinQ just rattled off 5 or 6 things that are complete bullshit, that he just pulled from thin air. Blackhole did something very similar at GF a bit ago. And you have the nerve to call me a liar.

My partner didn't die if a heart attack or heart disease. He had no heart disease, well at least that I am aware of. He was 260-280 lbs, so he probably did, but was never diagnosed with anything. That was actually a running 'joke' between us, that he was 260+ lbs and had no known heart disease or issues and I was thin, never more than 10 lbs above my high school baseball weight and I had a bad heart valve.

And I did break my arm. What the fuck are you a doctor now AinQ and one that can diagnose without even seeing the patient?

I guess this is the "Trump" world we now live in. Just make up whatever the fuck you want.

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I told you I'm not a doctor. We've been over this. It is just exceptionally improbable that you broke your arm as you were slammed into a chair.

The heart thing ok.. who knows. The person who put forth that theory was fairly convincing. You brought it up then just never talk about it even though that sort of thing is very life changing.

Anyway Kewl you keep being you. Fighting for truth just like me.

"you have the nerve to call me a liar" LOL. Good stuff !

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The heart thing ok.. who knows. The person who put forth that theory was fairly convincing. You brought it up then just never talk about it even though that sort of thing is very life changing.

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"The person who put forth the theory is very convincing" :confused: That person is Blackhole. One of only a couple people ever banned from this forum, and I believe the only one banned for trolling. THIS is your source? Good call, buddy. :rolleyes:

Look who you are aligning yourself with AinQ? Blackhole and Mdawg for God sakes. Mdawg had 6 posts in succession removed yesterday at GF for trolling. He is a full blown troll that can't control his obsession and trollling. AinQ, you too, have now gone full blown troll.

I know there are only a handful of real blackjack players or former blackjack players (that have moved on to bigger and better things), so let me explain something that it seems most of you haven't figured out. Getting backed off, or worse yet trespassed, is not something to be proud of. These things don't happen out of the blue. There are always warning signs. If you are backed off or trespassed, then you have missed the warning signs. That is a failure.

In this case, I saw nothing until I was tapped on the shoulder. Epic, epic failure on my part. To the point that as a card counter, I am embarrassed. This isn't something anyone would make up. I simply shared an experience just as I always have, in this case a very bad, negative experience that was a pretty big failure on my part.

Seriously, you people are on a witch hunt now.

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I know there are only a handful of real blackjack players or former blackjack players (that have moved on to bigger and better things), so let me explain something that it seems most of you haven't figured out. Getting backed off, or worse yet trespassed, is not something to be proud of. These things don't happen out of the blue. There are always warning signs. If you are backed off or trespassed, then you have missed the warning signs. That is a failure.

In this case, I saw nothing until I was tapped on the shoulder. Epic, epic failure on my part. To the point that as a card counter, I am embarrassed. This isn't something anyone would make up. I simply shared an experience just as I always have, in this case a very bad, negative experience that was a pretty big failure on my part.

Seriously, you people are on a witch hunt now.

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Never happened.

In 2023, not a "card counter" alive would walk into that backroom.

Why are we to believe you did?

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In 2023, not a "card counter" alive would walk into that backroom.

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Very Bad advice Ray Finkle. A card counter has done nothing wrong or illegal. The casino has no legal right to detain you. But if you resist, you are giving them a reason. They can say you resisted and created a disturbance. I think even Bob N has advised this numerous times of different shows.

Do not turn the casino being in the wrong, to giving them a legitimate reason. Keep it that they are in the wrong and you can hire an attorney and sort it out afterwards.

Bob on being back roomed (in 2011):

"Nersesian: First inform them firmly, but not physically, that you have no desire to accompany them anywhere.
RWM: Should you attempt to walk to the door?
Nersesian: Your call. I’ve had it both ways. Firmly state, “If you want to throw me out, tell me I’m 86’ed or trespass me. Do it now and do it quickly, because I intend to walk out that door.” If they say, “You’re not going,” or “You have to come with us,” don’t fight them, because they may beat the living daylights out of you. Do I want to see that kind of lawsuit? Not really. You get hurt on those. If they have determined that they are taking you to the back room, they will probably do whatever it takes to restrain you. Your firm statement that you desire to leave and they should not take you back there is all that is needed.
RWM: Unfortunately, the surveillance tapes don’t have audio.
Nersesian: No they don’t. Once you get in the security office, say it again. That room is recorded with audio."

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source: https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/gamb...e-for-players/

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The late Kevin Keen (Moses) lied about me for years and then apologized on this deathbed.

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Let's address this first.

The minute Moses died, UNKewLyingJ was all over both forums but especially this one, going on and on about how yes Moses had showed up at his condo in 2019. So much for UNKewLyingJ's hypocrisy about leaving the dead to RIP.

Moses never retracted his statement that he had never showed up at any condo at which UNKewLyingJ lived. Moses stated repeatedly that he had never even been to Vegas as of the year UNKewLyingJ claimed he had visited him. All Moses did towards the end of his life was express remorse in general over having duked it out with UNKewLyingJ at the forums: Kj is not my right to just your life. I'm a very sorry. I hope you will forgive me. I didn't mean those nasty I said to you. I hope you will forgive me and maybe keep me in your prayers. That would be great. I don't want to fight anymore.. These sort of classy last words are more than UNKewLyingJ ever managed about either AlanMendelson or Moses, before or after they died.

UNKewLyingJ made up the nonsense about Moses showing up at a condo in 2019, and then rolled it into two further lies when, over two years later in 2021, he claimed that someone had researched the records at the Panorama Towers / The Martin on Dean Martin Dr. in Vegas and found a record of a condo owned by two brothers, and then used that info to doxx him in 2021 (no one ever saw this doxxing post). The second lie came more recently when he claimed that he had changed the title on this condo right after Moses supposedly showed up at this condo, to an LLC or Trust, which would mean that no one could have researched any condo “under the name of two brothers” because UNKewLyingJ claimed that over two years prior he had changed the title to an LLC or Trust.
All three of these statements conflicted with each other, which is typical for UNKewLyingJ's not well thought out lies.

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I was trying to protect myself.
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Now this. Twice recently, first with regards to the made up backrooming lawsuit, and again with regards to the claimed six year old 100K jackpot, UNKewLyingJ has brought up “to protect myself” as reasons for his lies.

Still, we have not even a shadow of an explanation as to why lying day in day out for three months over a lawsuit and then retracting the lies could possibly further any end other than repeated desperate attempts to back up the original story. How was lying and then retracting protecting anything, or anyone? How was lying in the first place, claiming that a lawsuit existed where there was none, protecting himself anyway? The reason he hasn't even tried to elaborate on this is because there is no plausible explanation for his lying, other than that he was trying to make people believe his nonsense.

Just another not well thought out lie (“I was trying to protect myself”) that contradicts the truth.

Along the same lines, the lies about how "APs know this happened to me and have contacted me about it" and "the press got wind of it and contacted me," were also presented only to try to back up the fable and for no other reason. Such statements, as well, certainly could not fit into "trying to protect myself." :eek:

No, once he brought up the tale, there was only one UNKewl agenda: trying to get people to buy it. That it didn't work out was a function of that he didn't think it through well enough which resulted in what DanDruff' described as so many changing and bizarre versions of the same story.

I think it has been proved beyond a reasonable doubt that KewlJ is a fraud...RIP

RIP and Amen.

Kewl it is not too late to repent.

Do not let the dark side consume you.

Follow me to the light.

Fuck you Mdawg. You don't know shit and you are just making up shit. You are on a never-ending quest to try to discredit me, somehow thinking it makes your story and claims more credible. Newflash: IT DOESN'T. If you somehow were to prove that I am a little old Chinese woman living in Detroit, your claims would still be complete bullshit.

Kevin Keen who posted as Moses and tater, was banned from this forum, for repeatedly threatening to find me to physically settle scores and at the very end threatening to find me, take a picture and circulate it to the casinos. Dan Druff stated that a number of people had contacted Dan, with serious concerns. My history with "moses" go back far before this forum. He also had a history of taking his forum "fights" off forum. When he was banned at Norm Wattenbergers BJtheForum, he called Norm at his home a number of times to argue with him. If you don't believe me, ask Norm.

Several months after Moses threatened to come to Las Vegas and find me, he did just that. I don't know how he found where I lived. Checking real estate records after MaxPen made mention of it, is one possibility. Moses also asked members here if they had any information on me, as did "SidtheSquid" at WoV, who may well have been a moses sock puppet. Maybe he found out that way, although I would doubt it.

I don't care how he found where I live. He threatened to and then several months later, he did it.

Now Moses is gone and he did apologize for things said and done. Like I said it dated back almost a decade over 5 or 6 forums. I accept that. Doesn't change the fact that it happened but I do accept it. May he rest in peace.

Mdawg, you are a lot like Moses, in that you take forum bullshit off the forums. You haven't shown up at my home yet, and I advise you not too, but the doxxing shit you pulled is just as bad. You don't seem to understand the line where forum shit stays on the forum.

Actually a fourth lie with reference to this Moses matter. UNKewLyingJ has been telling anyone who would listen for years now that he has a police report that identifies Moses as the person who came to the condo. Well, now everyone knows Moses' real name, and he's dead, so what possible reason would for there be for UNKewLyingJ's not finally posting at least one piece of actual evidence to back up his lies? He could redact it to remove the police report #, the address of the condo, and UNKewLying J's name....

Other than the one insurmountable reason...that the evidence, as always, does not exist.

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I recommend you read a few pages. It is interesting reading.Yes I took offense at Alan's less than honest behavior. But if you read the next several pages, I didn't call him any names.

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And that's another lie...here's a summary of the thread...

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Jumping to the next table is a big part of my game, because I usually try to track a second table, as I am playing one.

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I'd like to see how card counting is done from another table. At Caesars Palace the only way is by turning around in your seat because the tables are side by side, and players are facing towards the middle of each table. To see the action at the next table you'd have to swivel at least 90-degrees in your seat.

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"Turn your chair to see another table"?? Seriously? I gotta say about half the stuff you post, Alan, I find myself saying "what?" or "hun?" or "what is he talking about?"

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I never said anything about turning your chair. I asked about turning in your seat.

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The table to my right is NOT 90 degrees to my right. The table lies at about 1:30 to 2'oclock on the vision 'clock', with the actual playing surface of the table more like 1:30. You DO NOT have to turn your body or your head or stand up and rotate to see that area.

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Interesting kewlj. I haven't been in a casino where the tables are set up like that.

I'm sure this isn't an AP secret so how about naming the casinos where you can peek at the next BJ table so you can count cards at two tables simultaneously?

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How about EVERY casino on the west side of the strip from TI down to Mandy Bay.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

I can drive to any one casino RIGHT NOW.

Please name a casino with this set up. I'm going to take a seat and with my cell phone I will take a photo showing my view.

I'm a reporter and this is what reporters do.

What casino do I go to?

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You want to drive to a casino, sit at a blackjack table and take a still photo looking straight ahead, as if you are some sort of 1950's robot. What, in your mind, do you think that is going to prove or disprove? :confused:

What it proves to me is that you are not understanding what is being described. What I haven't figured out is whether you truly aren't comprehending or whether it is some sort of unwillingness to understand. I get the feeling it is the latter.

Many times when a discussion reaches this point of failure to communicate or failure to comprehend what is being communicated, one party will ask the other if English is your first language, thinking maybe there is a language barrier. Since I know you understand English, I will refrain from that, but instead I will ask "Is this your home planet?".....because you seem like you are from another world to me.

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I went to the Mirage at 3am. The blackjack pit was empty. I sat at a table in seat #2. I turned to the table on my right and took a photo from eye level. Obviously there were no players to get in the way. Now, tell me, can you see what the cards would be?

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What an absolutely ridiculous exercise that was Alan. Completely manipulative and dishonest.

I don't know how much I will continue to participate here, or if I will at all. But I do know that you have now revealed yourself as a fundamentally dishonest individual. Someone I have little interest in interacting with.

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kewlj you told me to go to any casino on the west side of the strip from TI to Mandalay Bay, so I chose the Mirage...I showed in the photos exactly what you didn't want me to see and confirm: the tables are too far apart so you can't read the cards on other tables. And it would be impossible if there were actually players at the other tables. Also -- and everyone else will see this too when they do what I did -- you're going to have to twist your head like Linda Blair in the Exorcist in order to look over at another table.

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Alan, you have proved nothing...except that you are a nut...completely detached from reality. There is no benefit for AP's to participate here. I guess for the amusement. But watching a handful of complete nut jobs, is only funny to me for about 10 minutes. So I am out.

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He also had a history of taking his forum "fights" off forum. If you don't believe me, ask Norm.

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Norm has a few things to say about UNKewLyingJ, actually:

He has caused more damage to the AP community than any other person.

https://i.imgur.com/0y91jZ9h.jpg

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He also had a history of taking his forum "fights" off forum. If you don't believe me, ask Norm.

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He has caused more damage to the AP community than any other person.

"He's been doing this for years hundreds of times on sites where the victims of his hate are not allowed or don't even know about."

"He even slandered another admin on the Las Vegas paper editor's page and sent crap to a house where he thought he lived."

"He posted vast numbers of false accusations of federal crimes on ZZ (an extremist antiSemitic site) claiming that we could answer."

"I didn't threaten multiple people with attacks for 50 years after their death."

"The man talks about the death of two forum admins who have banned him. Who does that?"

https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...-Rebate/page18

Above is the link to the blurry Photo Alan took, to make his argument. Anyone looking at this photo, can come to no other conclusion that he was playing games. Taking THIS photo and claiming it is representative of what a person would see is dishonest.

MDawg, I note that unlike Robert you are continuing to vigorously beat the "Gotcha, KJ" drum.

Unlike me, you are by report an attorney actively practicing; doesn't all the posting and searching back posts for "ammo" interfere with your daily / work life?

I have no problem with you posting stuff, just wondering why you bother to do so continuously and with such great detail, given the other claims you must have on your time.

Besides, you've made your points: repeating them ad infinitum doesn't make them any more true.

And no, this isn't a back-door request to leave KJ alone: he's a big boy, he opened the door.

It is a time consuming rabbit hole for sure.

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Above is the link to the blurry Photo Alan took, to make his argument. Anyone looking at this photo, can come to no other conclusion that he was playing games. Taking THIS photo and claiming it is representative of what a person would see is dishonest.

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This was all discussed immediately after Alan posted the photos, he didn't intentionally take a blurry photo.

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Honestly, can you possibly see what the cards would be if dealt on the table? Remember, this photo is taken with NO players at the table.

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Did you intentionally blurr the photo.

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No, my hands shake, mostly from the anti-rejection drugs I take. It's very hard for me to keep my hands steady.

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The photo is blurry, but it clearly represents the circumstances, namely that a player cannot see what cards are dealt on the second table...even without any players seated at the next table.

The most notable thing about that thread, is that it marks your first interaction with other members on this forum. You immediately become belligerent, insulting, misleading, and quickly proclaim that you are quitting the forum.

Mdawg's level of research and obession is part of what makes these threads so great.

Kewl clearly "bit off more than he can chew" when messin with the Dawg.

I don't want KJ to stop lying and I don't want MDawg to stop exposing his lies.

I want it all!!!

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Kewl clearly "bit off more than he can chew" when messin with the Dawg.

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And you're not the first to have said that!

https://i.imgur.com/lckS3wYh.jpg

Over at GF.com UNKewLyingJ was crying (yet again) to Admin over there over this or that and Admin put him in his place with an admonishment about how "You are not special" and to stop "crying wolf" just because he has "lost an argument [with MDawg]" and is "trying to save face when quitting in defeat." :rolleyes:

That was in 2021 - yet another time when UNKewLyingJ declared (with or without a solemn oath) that he was done with that forum. Only to return within a matter of days or hours.

https://i.imgur.com/CgvfJUyh.jpg

Does mdog or kewl play more blackjack in Las Vegas?

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Kewl clearly "bit off more than he can chew" when messin with the Dawg.

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And you're not the first to have said that!

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See this right here tells the whole story. Mdawg now thinks this is some kind of war between he and I. He blames me that when he posts at WoV, very few if any people respond or take his "adventured" seriously anymore. He thinks this is some one on one war, that one of us will win and the other lose.

Well THAT is not what it is, nor what I think it is. I just said "hey what your claiming can't be". As did many others. It doesn't effect me other than that. He is under the illusion that by trolling me, he is winning something. The same illusion Rob Singer is under.

The reality is that Mdawg trolling me as he does only confirms some things about himself. No Lawyer and successful person of wealth that he claims would be wasting his life doing what he does, putting in all that time and effort and time researching past threads and statement. But he is just really hung up on the revenge thing.

The one thing I would love to find out is why telling this story with all the winning was so important to Mdawg. Dan Druff has also asked that several times. But I don't expect we will ever get that answer.

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Does mdog or kewl play more blackjack in Las Vegas?

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Is that really the question? Or is the real question who wins more at the end of the day. I mean really wins, not the silly things he posts.

And even that doesn't matter to me. I am competing with no one, except myself and my goals.

To these people like Singer and now Mdawg who think they are winning some kind of troll war. I have 2 questions: What exactly are you winning? And how does it change anything about your real life?

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To these people like Singer and now Mdawg who think they are winning some kind of troll war. I have 2 questions: What exactly are you winning? And how does it change anything about your real life?

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I took care of Singer. You best not worry about him. You got enough from just the Dawg. If Singer comes back I will send him back packing to GF.

I want to know if https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post160873 is actually referring to you and if you would like to address it.

Those claims are fantastic.

All this reminds me of a show I used to watch. (Yes I can admit that)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBfxkaZf0uM

Granted there are no bounties and presumably Mdawg does not look like Duane Chapman but this also has not been confirmed much like Kewl's claims.

I'd just like to point out 2 things.

On this forum in my early years only 2 people reached out to me unprompted with gambling stories. Redietz and KewlJ.

I have only noticed that 2 people seem to consistently misrepresent what I say with seemingly no concern.

Things that make you go mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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To these people like Singer and now Mdawg who think they are winning some kind of troll war. I have 2 questions: What exactly are you winning? And how does it change anything about your real life?

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I took care of Singer. You best not worry about him. You got enough from just the Dawg. If Singer comes back I will send him back packing to GF.

I want to know if https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post160873 is actually referring to you and if you would like to address it.

Those claims are fantastic.

All this reminds me of a show I used to watch. (Yes I can admit that)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBfxkaZf0uM

Granted there are no bounties and presumably Mdawg does not look like Duane Chapman but this also has not been confirmed much like Kewl's claims.

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You couldn't take care of a deaf and blind cripple old lady during the springtime of your best year.

All you can do is fill your lonely & declining years constantly searching for something to respond to.

Wise up.

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To these people like Singer and now Mdawg who think they are winning some kind of troll war. I have 2 questions: What exactly are you winning? And how does it change anything about your real life?

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I took care of Singer. You best not worry about him. You got enough from just the Dawg. If Singer comes back I will send him back packing to GF.

I want to know if https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post160873 is actually referring to you and if you would like to address it.

Those claims are fantastic.

All this reminds me of a show I used to watch. (Yes I can admit that)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBfxkaZf0uM

Granted there are no bounties and presumably Mdawg does not look like Duane Chapman but this also has not been confirmed much like Kewl's claims.

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You couldn't take care of a deaf and blind cripple old lady during the springtime of your best year.

All you can do is fill your lonely & declining years constantly searching for something to respond to.

Wise up.

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Your response time was less than 10 minutes. Clearly you have a lot on your plate. LMAO.

I still look at all this and think how good of a job Kewl did versus you. You never once got anyone outside of Crimm to believe your horseshit.

Very good at getting Kewl to respond. Was that your fallback after everyone laughed at your claims !?!?!?

I guess this difference is you wanted to be a superior/famous gambler whereas Kewl just wanted to be believed as a low-level gambler with a very tall tale thrown in every once in awhile.

Tell me how I'm wrong.

Glad to see your lurking about. Got you all spinning within minutes. lol. Too easy.

PunkCity on UNKewLyingJ: ARE you MENTALLY unstable?

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Like I said, it must be mental illness.

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What other explanation for that he has, as Ozzy has put it, Extremely poor ability to read the playing field. I mean he honestly appears to think that people are going after him to make themselves look better. Nay, it's all about rubbing it into his UNKewl face that what he's tried so hard to achieve with millions of desperate, reaching words in tens of thousands of posts for all these years - street creds - is shot forever.

It's just human nature to burst out laughing in his face at what a complete fool he made of himself.

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I think it has been proved beyond a reasonable doubt that KewlJ is a fraud...RIP

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RobSinger said it pretty well: If there's ever been anybody more incapable of trying and trying to change other people's opinions about himself, that person hasn't been born yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BwZEzUaMto

Speaking of "street creds". :D

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Do I believe he was truthful about his casino exploits? Obviously not. I believe him to be more of a casino whale than anything else, and not an AP or winning long term gambler. [/B] For whatever reason he wants to live a fantasy on these boards that he is a big winner. He simply likes to tell tall tales.[/B]

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Do I think MDawg is winning? No. I think he probably has some money (maybe not as much as he claims), likes to gamble, likes the high roller treatment, and wants to present himself as a guy who gets all this AND wins, rather than just a chump who is getting lavish treatment because he's dumping money.

With that said, there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabcricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete.

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Like I said, it must be mental illness.

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What other explanation for that he has, as Ozzy has put it, Extremely poor ability to read the playing field. I mean he honestly appears to think that people are going after him to make themselves look better. Nay, it's all about rubbing it into his UNKewl face that what he's tried so hard to achieve with millions of desperate, reaching words in tens of thousands of posts for all these years - street creds - is shot forever.

It's just human nature to burst out laughing in his face at what a complete fool he made of himself.

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And, yes AccountInQuestion, all of what Norm speaks of refers directly to UNKewLyingJ.

https://i.imgur.com/0y91jZ9h.jpg

The context of Norm's post is that someone at that forum was briefly advocating for un-banning UNKewlJ or some such, and Norm stepped in to say, NO - this guy UNKewLyingJ is the worst of the worst and should be avoided at all costs, for reasons including these.