MDawg system wins him $400K in one bacc session - watch for patterns - press into them

he describes his system in detail in this quote from another forum

maybe my thread title was not exactly correct - it may have taken him the whole trip to win 400K - not sure - maybe he will clarify

the following is what he posted:


"I didn't read your "system" in detail. But I did notice something about changing sides whenever one side gets a natural? All I'll say is that a massive run started for me with a natural nine followed by natural eight and something "clicked" in my head that told me to place table max on the next hand (I was already ahead a lot for the trip at the time). The run continued massively side by side with only one intervening hand of the other side. So, if I followed your "rule" of switch sides every time a natural lands I WOULD HAVE LEFT THAT SESSION AND TRIP 400K POORER

You can't make mechanical rules for what to do in Baccarat. You must simply hope for runs or patterns, and follow them, pressing into each successive win. Then - just as important - get up and leave after a good run has taken you far ahead. Take advantage of the positive variance or whatever you want to call it, and then get up.

Some shoes present great runs and discernible patterns, some do not. Over time you learn to cut back on your bet or just leave when the shoe presents nothing worth following."

It's amazing. Back in my youth, this is exactly how I picked up women.

"You can't make mechanical rules for what to do in getting laid. You must simply hope for runs or patterns or weakness, and follow them, pressing into each successive 'Yes.' Then -- just as important -- get up and leave after a good one. Take advantage of the positive dalliance or whatever you want to call it, and then get up.

Some present great runs and discernible patterns, some do not. Over time you learn to cut back on your investment or just leave when there's nothing worth following."

And I'll add, and I'm surprised MDAwg didn't, "FOR BAILING OUT FAST, YOU NEED TO START ON TOP. ALWAYS DICTATE POSITION AND PACE."

What can I say? Great minds think alike.

Yes that was one trip where I cleared more than 400K actually, where there was a massive run on one side followed by a single on the other side followed by another massive run on the same side never seen anything quite like it again.

But no, that run (in general) has nothing to do with how I win over time, but you'd have to have been brain dead to not have made a ton of money on that shoe. Would be the equivalent of winning almost every hand at blackjack in a session, which, has happened to me before too.
You will recall in the Wizard witnessed session there was only ONE run the entire shoe, AND YET I hit every hand in that run:

I didn’t just catch some of the winning hands in that 8 Player run – I caught every single one, losing only on the 9th bet, when it switched to Bank. I do this all the time, catch runs, and press into them.

How he do dat?

"I didn't read your "system" in detail. But I did notice something about changing sides whenever one side gets a natural? " - no I never said anything like that, I may have pointed out that some people play like that.

Look, Half Smoke, let's face it. You're an all washed up overweight alcoholic trying to limit his drinks to Saturdays only. Am I allowed to state the truth without offending you? I respect that you're trying to understand things beyond your ken, but it's not working out well for you. Rather than spending your time commenting on The Great MDawg (a pastime UNKewlJ has devoted his life to), you would do better to go on a diet and stop drinking entirely. Those are friend suggestions, meant in a positive way.

The way I play Bacc is that sometimes, not always, I know what the first card out the shoe will be. I've described that only in more recent years, but it has been that way for some time even if I have not said so outright. Nor have I described how or why I have that knowledge, or what setup allows me to play that way. It also helps to have a memory that allows one to know every card that has been played, and what remains, and what that might mean - and this applies to both Bacc and BlackJack.


All right I just got back in from a swim in the waters of Miami beach.

You should try it sometime soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA_4VRkkdhk

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I am overweight, I admit - about 15 pounds - trying to lose it - but an alcoholic_______?_______never even remotely close_________there was a period when I had 2 drinks on each day of the weekend - that's over - but again, never anywhere near being an alcy - but if you wanna believe that or post that - I don't care - who cares_____?

as far as misquoting you - the link has exactly what you posted - which is exactly what I copied and pasted - your post is 5 up from the bottom of the page


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I would have guessed that after you won about $275K the house would stop dealing to you - that they would figure out that you can easily beat them - but I guess they're just not that sharp


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https://www.gamblingforums.com/threa...oll-win.18860/


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The quote from me I didn't read your "system" in detail. But I did notice something about changing sides whenever one side gets a natural? was referring to what someone said, and was referring to that person's "system" which I put in quotes by way of emphasizing that it was silly.

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- no I never said anything like that, I may have pointed out that some people play like that.

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The quote from me I didn't read your "system" in detail. But I did notice something about changing sides whenever one side gets a natural? was referring to what someone said, and was referring to that person's "system" which I put in quotes by way of emphasizing that it was silly.

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- no I never said anything like that, I may have pointed out that some people play like that.

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in my op i have the word "system" in quotes also -

again, my quote of you was exactly what you posted

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Come on you can't be that dense. The point of your whole thread was implying that I played that way, when all I was doing was questioning why someone would play that way.

What is not included in your "analysis" is WHY I knew or at least knew to a good degree what was happening on the next hand. You'd need to know more about how and why I play and ALSO have a mind like mine which has total recall, to begin to understand all that. That post was from some time ago, before I felt okay with disclosing a bit more about how I play, or why I play the way I do.

The lack of any kind of decent brain is part of why UNKewlJ is good only for cheap street hustles, and could never be any kind of "math" guy.

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Come on you can't be that dense. The point of your whole thread was implying that I played that way, when all I was doing was questioning why someone would play that way.

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no I'm not that dense

anyone with an 8th grade education can easily see that you are refuting his way of playing and then showing your preferred way of playing

I in no way implied that you play that way

but you implied that I misquoted you or twisted your words somehow - not true

one more time - I copied and pasted EXACTLY what you posted

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You know how Dan Druff says there is something missing or incomplete about Mdawgs claim? Here is what continues to be missing: It doesn't matter what he is doing (or pretending to do) that might allow him to win, doesn't matter if it is some sort of hole-carding the first round, or rainman type total recall, or even if he is just the luckiest person on the face of the world. Playing rated as he claims, to get all the comps he claims, there is a record of his play that casino people WILL review. And they will not just allow a player to sit there and win (whatever they are doing), day after day, like Mdawg claims. THAT has always been the missing piece, that he can't and won't explain.

For some reason this guy wants to write a story where not just the people reading the story are impressed, but everyone, everywhere is impressed that he is the greatest gambler ever. Right down to the casino pit people that would lose their jobs, if this were true. THAT continues to be just one of the pierces that don't work for this fiction story.

There is a reason why AP table game players play unrated, and move around a lot, playing short sessions and a number of other things we do. You just can't sit there, playing rated, and win over and over and over, with a record of your play right there and expect no one to say or do anything about it. THAT is just fantasy!! It is a guy writing a story.

There are two distinct parts to table game advantage play. The first is doing something that flips the advantage from casino to player. The second is to play in a manor or find ways to be able to continue to play and be welcome to play. It is that second piece that has ALWAYS been missing from Mdawg's story. Every real winning player recognises this and that is why almost every real winning player has at one time or another challenged these claims and this story. It just doesn't fly.

You knew this thread--actually, ANY thread--that implies mdawg wins was gonna strike a nerve in the perpetually nervous and envious kew. And there he is again, making believe he knows all about how high limit table play operates, when all he really is is just another one of your local bj addicts who plays red and green chips on a good day, while losing even more on lower level vp which generates his self-valued comps allowing him to pretend he's a winning "AP".

Watch for the oft-repeated & concocted-only-in-kew's mind lie about mdawg admitting to wizard to "breaking even" for a year instead of being a big winner.

I feel obligated to poke a hole in kewlJ's critique. The hole may not apply, since nothing I'm about to say has been mentioned by MDawg, but I'll give it a go.

Much like sons of sheiks betting outrageous amounts on teams because of a color or a mascot symbol (and it being tolerated because limits are ignored), sometimes it's a matter of context. For example, IF Mdawg's wife or extended family routinely blew large chunks on shopping or entertainment or events at certain casinos (say 30K or 40K a shot, which is plausible if not likely on a consistent basis), then a casino might very well tolerate damned near anything somebody does at the tables. If what's being won at the tables is dwarfed by what's spent elsewhere, or if family connections bleed into the social circles of upper management, then it's possible almost anything would be tolerated at the tables. It's all about context.

This is, for better or worse, the way the world works. With a bottom line and a wink/wink. In fact, if MDawg were a conduit for other, perhaps larger, players, there is no telling what would be tolerated. He could, in essence, be a "super-shill." Someone whose recommendations bring in other players. No law against it.

Ahhhh, some bright souls are suddenly considering what I just wrote as both obvious and possible.

LOL. That's why they pay me the big money.

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there is no telling what would be tolerated.

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After cutting through the bullshit, this represents the operative condition...tewlj's uninformed opinion notwithstanding.

The check is in the mail, I already had your address.

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If what's being won at the tables is dwarfed by what's spent elsewhere, or if family connections bleed into the social circles of upper management, then it's possible almost anything would be tolerated at the tables.
if MDawg were a conduit for other, perhaps larger, players, there is no telling what would be tolerated.

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And that math DOES make sense but kewl cannot seem to grasp certain things, especially that anyone could have talents he does not possess. I also do think it's possible that there could be a very small number of people who can remember every card that comes out of the deck and, of course an advantage would be had by this. Does the dawg have this ability? I'll never know, but I really don't care one way or another, which is again another trait kewl does not possess.

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IF Mdawg's wife or extended family routinely blew large chunks on shopping or entertainment or events at certain casinos (say 30K or 40K a shot, which is plausible if not likely on a consistent basis), then a casino might very well tolerate damned near anything somebody does at the tables.

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It has been discussed Red. Not exactly in this context, but more the context of a much larger losing player with, or associated with Mdawg, then the casino might tolerate some winning and playing with an advantage from him. The problem with all that, is THAT is just NOT what he claims. :rolleyes:

Yes Red, there is "no law against it" but then again there is zero proof of the theory either.

Just like there is zero proof of his claim that Half Smoke and I are alcoholics (I haven't drank in over 25 years, HS says he doesn't drink much at all).

No, the post Half Smoke referenced is just more of the TRUE FICTION that the hound likes to spew out his ass: sort of like Tasha's "Axl Rose" tale yet much funnier and much more unlikely.

Think of the hound as the forum's trained bear performing for our amusement.




Oh, instead of the woods this particular bear does his "business" on this forum.

Ewwww....nasty...

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If what's being won at the tables is dwarfed by what's spent elsewhere, or if family connections bleed into the social circles of upper management, then it's possible almost anything would be tolerated at the tables.
if MDawg were a conduit for other, perhaps larger, players, there is no telling what would be tolerated.

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And that math DOES make sense but kewl cannot seem to grasp certain things, especially that anyone could have talents he does not possess. I also do think it's possible that there could be a very small number of people who can remember every card that comes out of the deck and, of course an advantage would be had by this. Does the dawg have this ability? I'll never know, but I really don't care one way or another, which is again another trait kewl does not possess.

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Anything is possible, but it`s hard to imagine an uneducated boob like MDork being one of these people. Everything about the way he writes and forms sentences suggest he is a low IQ`d dumbfuck

Just cut thru all the BS. If it doesn't fit the narrative that kew wants it to be, then it is up to every one of us to learn to see it his way. He can't sleep well at night as it is. Why agitate him even further by not allowing him to convince us that the casinos only operate within his limited world view?

The proof is in the pudding that when witnessed I played and won exactly the way I have claimed all along. I won and pressed into every hand in the only run on that entire shoe when I won the DarkOz Challenge wager as witnessed and verified by the Wizard. How’d MDawg do dat?

I collected two grand pursuant to accepting and winning that wager. The perennially UNKewl one has turned down countless opportunities no legitimate person would have declined.

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UNKewlJ can't post what he doesn't have. Which includes about everything he has ever talked about other than some red or green chips. :D

https://i.imgur.com/qFQz40yl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/y7W17LUl.jpg

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Rob, let’s face it if one thing is certain it’s that UNKewlJ’s life expectancy is being reduced every time he whines softly and his bum ticker as others have described it fibrillates over anything that doesn’t jibe with his tunnel vision.

And THAT I am sure, is music to your ears.

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If what's being won at the tables is dwarfed by what's spent elsewhere, or if family connections bleed into the social circles of upper management, then it's possible almost anything would be tolerated at the tables.
if MDawg were a conduit for other, perhaps larger, players, there is no telling what would be tolerated.

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And that math DOES make sense but kewl cannot seem to grasp certain things, especially that anyone could have talents he does not possess. I also do think it's possible that there could be a very small number of people who can remember every card that comes out of the deck and, of course an advantage would be had by this. Does the dawg have this ability? I'll never know, but I really don't care one way or another, which is again another trait kewl does not possess.

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Anything is possible, but it`s hard to imagine an uneducated boob like KeyStone being one of these people. Everything about the way he writes and forms sentences suggest he is a low IQ`d dumbfuck

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By the way - (about the way he writes and forms sentences) is the prepositional phrase that modifies the subject Everything - which in this case acts as singular. So the correct form of the verb in that sentence would be suggests. Not suggest.

As a simple grammar lesson for the brilliant keystone writer - remove the modifiers then conjugate the verb to match the subject not its modifiers.

And what word is IQ’d supposed to be? and how does it fit into the sentence?

This thread has gone down a very familiar path. A discussion about mdawg's approach to winning, kew cutting in to whine and lie in yet another feeble effort to make it all about him, kew once again gets shredded for his lack of intelligence and of course lies, MrV steps in with another feeble attempt laced with lies to denigrate mdawg's success and his participation in the systematic taking down of the mealey-mouthed twit, and all the while everyone with spare time comments on what a loser kew is.

It's a beautiful thing!

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since MDawg mentioned the Wizard and his demonstration to the Wizard and implied that the Wizard endorsed him as a winning player it seems appropriate to quote exactly what the Wizard has said about him which I have linked -you will find it 8 posts up from the bottom of the linked page


quote from Mike Shackleford aka the Wizard of Odds:


"Mdawg's confession about his baccarat play over the entirety of his trip I found to be very honest and commendable.

At this point, let me make a disclaimer that not only do I think betting systems can't beat the house edge in baccarat, they can't even dent it. This includes whatever Mdawg is doing, without knowing much about it. So, I am not endorsing anything he says. In fact, if he is implying a way to beat baccarat straight up, I would strongly disagree."


end of quote from Mike


so what was the confession__________?__________to the best of my knowledge it was that he and the Wizard went over his records and found him to be about even over the course of some trip



https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gamb...-of-mdawg/125/

Who the heck can care about the gambling forays? They're already nothing more than claims that can't/won't be conclusively substantiated.

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The proof is in the pudding that when witnessed I played and won exactly the way I have claimed all along. I won and pressed into every hand in the only run on that entire shoe when I won the DarkOz Challenge wager as witnessed and verified by the Wizard. How’d MDawg do dat?

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Yes, it happened...good for you.

That little exercise in hubris proved NOTHING however other than the fact that you like many gamblers seem to confuse variance for skill; in other words: "Luck happens."

The sampling was far too short in duration to be statistically significant: try again, but this time do it right.

I do do it. Alll the time pal.

Not just win…but get people with no life like UNKewlJ, Terapined and HalfSmoke up in arms softly whining about how it can’t bayyyyyyy. Think about it though? Who are these three? A male prostitute, a guy living in an old tiny trailer and yet another washy type who keeps vowing to quit this or that forum just like UNKewlJ.

AccountInQuestion would say Get Help, I’d say Get a Life.

https://www.101soundboards.com/sound...feeding-off-me

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but it's not just us 3 - remember - it's your good buddy the Wizard who posted -



So, I am not endorsing anything he says.

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https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gamb...-of-mdawg/125/

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Incorrect.

https://i.imgur.com/TaJarhG.jpg

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I shared privately with the Wizard additional checks issued to me by the casinos, dating from the very end of May 2021, to end of June 2021, totaling approximately $250K (where all but approx. 100K was memo marked as "verified win" or "verified chips" - the remaining 100K had no memo on the check(s) at all), and these are besides the ones I shared with the Wizard before for the period March to May 2021.

The Wizard stated that he had no objection to my posting the above since it is true. Stated that he will not be verifying images at the forum any longer though.

The prior winning checks, that the Wizard did post verifications about at the forum in this thread, totaled some $260K, so that's a half million in winning checks issued to me for verified wins in the past few months, notwithstanding cashed chips and those converted to straight cash.


I am not sure if you are aware of this or not, but casinos will not issue checks other than for VERIFIED WINNINGS or return of front money cashier's check money. I am a credit line player only - no front money - so in my case, every penny of checks issued to me represents a WIN.

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MDawg is Number 1 in your minds and Number 1 in my heart!!

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But no one has taken control of the forums and members like MDawg has. For that you have to give him credit whether you like him or not. He has made a fool out of everyone that challenged him.

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MDawg is taken more serious than anyone on here currently.
He is taken so seriously that DarkOz gave him 2,000 dollars.
That wasn't good enough so he tipped the Wizard 500 dollars.
I'd say that MDawg is taken very seriously to some members.
DarkOz for starters.

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Let's just face it. You Halfsmoke have little to look forward to lately other than

1) Drinking on Saturdays (Each Saturday, someone would bang a tin pan and yell "Drinking time!" and HalfSmoke would jump up like a fighter coming out at the bell.)

2) Commenting on MDawg

Why, you've become little more lately than UNKewlJ...Jr. Indeed, you've become little more lately than a soft whiner, just like UNKewlJ.

What has sparked placing MDawg so prominently in the forefront of your thoughts?

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What has sparked placing MDawg so prominently in the forefront of your thoughts?

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since you asked -

your gay bashing of KJ is what did it - if you had not done that I would have mostly left you alone

I've never met KJ - have only conversed with him on various forums in a friendly manner

others do it here too of course, but with them it doesn't bother me nearly so much

you, I must admit, are an extremely intelligent person

for an extremely intelligent person to post that way is especially disgusting to me

in any event, I think I've posted enough about you now - time to crawl back into my very seldom posting style

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That little exercise in hubris proved NOTHING however other than the fact that you like many gamblers seem to confuse variance for skill; in other words: "Luck happens." The sampling was far too short in duration to be statistically significant: try again, but this time do it right.

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I do do it. Alll the time pal. Not just win…but get people with no life like UNKewlJ, Terapined and HalfSmoke up in arms...

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Let's be honest.

What you do is make ridiculous brags and then attack those who quickly conclude that "Oh, this Bozo is full of shit."

You are relentless in your attacks of KJ: why is this?

There are plenty of others here who say they don't believe your "True Fiction" so why do most of us (but not KJ) escape your acerbic pen?

Look, don't get me wrong: you're free to make whatever claim of gambling prowess you want to, but as a necessary corollary we are free to question it and flame you accordingly: it's become the new Online American Way.

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That little exercise in hubris proved NOTHING however other than the fact that you like many gamblers seem to confuse variance for skill; in other words: "Luck happens." The sampling was far too short in duration to be statistically significant: try again, but this time do it right.

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I do do it. Alll the time pal. Not just win…but get people with no life like UNKewlJ, Terapined and HalfSmoke up in arms...

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Let's be honest.

What you do is make ridiculous brags and then attack those who quickly conclude that "Oh, this Bozo is full of shit."

You are relentless in your attacks of KJ: why is this?

There are plenty of others here who don't believe your "True Fiction" so do most of us :(but not KJ) escape your ascerbic pen?

Look, don't get me wrong: you're free to make whatever claim of gambling prowess you want to, but as a necessary corollary we are free to question it and flame you accordingly: it's become the new American Way.

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Because Kewl bullshits to the same degree Dawg does. If you're full of shit, nothing bothers you more than another full of shit person calling you out on it.

I might respond sometimes to questions about my winning. Most of the time I don’t bother.

UNKewlJ has made a full time job of his multi front war trying desperately to ‘stablish himself. It’s life or death to him.

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since you asked -

your gay bashing of KJ is what did it - if you had not done that I would have mostly left you alone

I've never met KJ - have only conversed with him on various forums in a friendly manner

others do it here too of course, but with them it doesn't bother me nearly so much

you, I must admit, are an extremely intelligent person

for an extremely intelligent person to post that way is especially disgusting to me

in any event, I think I've posted enough about you now - time to crawl back into my very seldom posting style

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This is like Kamala Harris responding to a question from one of the Fox News leg-crossers.

"Gee you're intelligent, so it turns my stomach when you respond to a lying little fairy with strength and facts---knowing that he's got those crossed wires upstairs!" "It just isn't fair!!"

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I might respond sometimes to questions about my winning. Most of the time I don’t bother.

UNKewlJ has made a full time job of his multi front war trying desperately to ‘stablish himself. It’s life or death to him.

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Seems like it`s life or death with you too towel head

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since you asked -

your gay bashing of KJ is what did it - if you had not done that I would have mostly left you alone

I've never met KJ - have only conversed with him on various forums in a friendly manner

others do it here too of course, but with them it doesn't bother me nearly so much

you, I must admit, are an extremely intelligent person

for an extremely intelligent person to post that way is especially disgusting to me

in any event, I think I've posted enough about you now - time to crawl back into my very seldom posting style

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This is like Kamala Harris responding to a question from one of the Fox News leg-crossers.

"Gee you're intelligent, so it turns my stomach when you respond to a lying little fairy with strength and facts---knowing that he's got those crossed wires upstairs!" "It just isn't fair!!"

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Maybe in the beginning I was using some negatively connotative words to describe UNKewlJ’s homosexuality but for some time now as Dan the Man Dandruff has himself pointed out I’m not one of the ones bashing him. The extent of it might revolve around gentle pokes such as references to his soft whining. Drawing attention to his gay mannerisms. And so on. But not for the purpose of bashing rather to connect his gayness by way of explication for his actions.

UNKewlJ really is more of a - as PunkCity has pointed out repeatedly - more of a self loathing homosexual than a mere homosexual.

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Yes you must be so sad as your posts are about everything YOU do here this forum.

You must have a mental problem as you just fail to understand how often you contradict yourself, sometimes one post to the very next post you post this forum.

You must have a mental problem as you just fail to understand how often you post hypocritical posts this forum, you condemn the very behaviour you, yourself post about here this forum.

You must have a mental problem as you just fail to understand that you constantly discredit YOUR OWN character yet claim others are discrediting you.

You must have a mental problem because you display homophobic dislike of yourself for being gay. It’s a nasty queer trait of self loathing homosexuals that manifests with ugly queers. We’ve all meet at least one in our lifetime. It’s that trait you display that give all the good gays a bad name.

As stated you’re a slow moving car wreck. I got beer and popcorn, I love watching you unravel.

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But when I call him a male prostitute no insolence is intended my describing him as such is a statement of plain fact.

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What has sparked placing MDawg so prominently in the forefront of your thoughts?

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since you asked -

your gay bashing of KJ is what did it - if you had not done that I would have mostly left you alone

I've never met KJ - have only conversed with him on various forums in a friendly manner

others do it here too of course, but with them it doesn't bother me nearly so much

you, I must admit, are an extremely intelligent person

for an extremely intelligent person to post that way is especially disgusting to me

in any event, I think I've posted enough about you now - time to crawl back into my very seldom posting style

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This is like Kamala Harris responding to a question from one of the Fox News leg-crossers.

"Gee you're intelligent, so it turns my stomach when you respond to a lying little fairy with strength and facts---knowing that he's got those crossed wires upstairs!" "It just isn't fair!!"

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You got this guy snowed. I'd just shut up and let him think you are intelligent period.

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But when I call him a male prostitute no insolence is intended my describing him as such is a statement of plain fact.

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OK, fair enough, but let's take it a step further.

You are, by report, a wealthy man and a successful attorney.

Nothing wrong with that.

But as an attorney you are held to a higher standard of truthfulness than the average swiniging dick or smelly cunt who haunts this cesspool.

So...you say it is a "plain fact" that KJ is "a male prostitute."

Note: you didn't say you "suspect" or "believe" he is one, you said he "is" one.

I now request you provide proof of your seemingly (if untrue) defamatory claim.

Hound, you've been saying this shit forever: put up or shut up, 'K?

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The proof is in the pudding that when witnessed I played and won exactly the way I have claimed all along. I won and pressed into every hand in the only run on that entire shoe when I won the DarkOz Challenge wager as witnessed and verified by the Wizard. How’d MDawg do dat?

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Yes, it happened...good for you.

That little exercise in hubris proved NOTHING however other than the fact that you like many gamblers seem to confuse variance for skill; in other words: "Luck happens."

The sampling was far too short in duration to be statistically significant: try again, but this time do it right.

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Exactly.
Small sample size, positive variance.

Since it was a small sample size, MDAWG had about a 50% chance of coming out ahead. Now, if there was "doubling up" or "Martingale" betting, the odds could have been over 90% to come out ahead. Since Wizard was there to verify the session, I'm confident there were no significant periods of Martingale betting. We really need to know the exact sequence of betting to put a probability on the likelihood of being ahead after the session. I believe it was somewhere around a 60% probability of being ahead.

I give MDAWG credit for showing up and winning the challenge, but it proves nothing. What we didn't get to see, is what would have happened if he started losing? We don't know because the session wasn't long enough.

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Probably more a problem of taking things out of context, in the overly literal, or analytical, sense.

For example, it's allowed to have a Defendant noted in default, for not submitting a defense, on time, but, it's hardly right when the Defendant still wants to file one.

https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post173701

https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post173702

Bully for you.

But where's the proof that KJ "is a male prostitute?"

Quit deflecting and answer the damned question.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

It is not speculation. UNKewlJ was observed in obvious sugar daddy compromising situations at least twice by reliable forum members, and

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Originally Posted by MDawg

How about this one UNKewlJ? What well known AP said this:

I thought that was common knowledge about Kewlj being a male prostitute.

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The person who said that is an impeccable source.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

Besides making perfect sense, seedvalue's investigation established it, and MaxPen and others' sightings of UNKewlJ in the presence of a sugar daddy type affirmed it.

Plus, perhaps the greatest affirmation of all, soon after the truth with all its back up broke UNKewlJ disavowed the existence of his deceased soul male sugar daddy. When have we known UNKewlJ to disavow (such as when he claimed he was not even gay, admitted that he lied about the lawsuit, changed around his OSN database story, altered details of the $50. freeplay $100K hit, etc.) other than when the heat is on and the hounds have him by the tail.

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Originally Posted by Seedvalue

The fact you have spent thousands of hours and years of your life trying to convince everyone with a computer you play blackjack for a living proves you don’t do shit.

100 percent you sell ass and mouth for cash. You play some on the side but your sugar daddies pay the bills. Fact

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Originally Posted by Seedvalue

I have eye witnesses willing to go on the record and under oath if need be. That’s the difference between you and I. Loyalty from the ones you brought up. Rat fakes like you wouldn’t understand

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Originally Posted by MDawg

When one person says you have a tail, disregard it. Two, better start thinking about it. Three (let alone dozens), you'd better start looking behind you!

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Let's look at an example where the Wizard would make the comments he did, along with saying, "There were no long periods of Martingaling".
Each number below is the number of units bet per round

Example:

1-Lost
1-Win
1-Lost
2-Lost
4-Win
1-Lost
1-Win
1-Lost
2-Win
1-Lost
1-Win
1-Lost
2-Lost
4-Win
1-Lost
1-Win
1-Lost
1-Win
1-Lost
1-Win
1-Lost
1-Lost

16 Units Won
15 Units Lost
Profit 1 unit (Win Challenge)

Wins and Losses
9 Wins
13 Losses
4 more Losses than Wins

As you can see, the problem with the above example is that you can come out on top, while also meeting the criteria of "No long stretches of Martingaling".

The above example shows 13 Losses out of 22 Rounds, while remaining profitable. This is only possible with a progression betting, or as MDAWG calls it, "Pressing my bets".

The Wizard isn't going to call a couple of "1,2,4" bet sequences, out of 22 Rounds, "Significant".

This is why the Wizard wanted to say more than he did.

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Originally Posted by MisterV

Bully for you.

But where's the proof that KJ "is a male prostitute?"

Quit deflecting and answer the damned question.

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V would make for a hell of a hung jury.

"Proof beyond a reasonable doubt!"


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The correct quote from the summary that Wizard verified was:

To summarize: there were no long periods of flat betting. If anything, I pressed into runs quite successfully time and again, and my bets ranged from 200 – 3500. There was no Martingale betting; in fact, I would tend to lower my bet after losing a hand versus increasing.


It is a waste of time for you to go down the tangent of a complete misquote, PV aka UNKewlJ.

Sorry hound, but the bray by that fucking jackass Seedvalue is of no value, nor is the claim made without supporting details by the unnamed forum members and the "impeccable source."

You're a fucking lawyer...at least you say you are...ever heard of the hearsay rule as to probative value?

I sniff out no exceptions to the rule in what you've posted.

No, Just more unproven, unfounded accusations, aka lies, aka bullshit.

Epic fail.

And unlike your claim: "THAT's a fact, jack..."

On the lighter note, it appears that Trump is still going down the shitter.

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the bray by that fucking jackass Seedvalue is of no value, nor is the claim made without supporting details by the unnamed forum members and the "impeccable source.

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Wrong again, resin breath.

It's of significant value in the court of public opinion.

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The correct quote from the summary that Wizard verified was:

To summarize: there were no long periods of flat betting. If anything, I pressed into runs quite successfully time and again, and my bets ranged from 200 – 3500. There was no Martingale betting; in fact, I would tend to lower my bet after losing a hand versus increasing.


It is a waste of time for you to go down the tangent of a complete misquote, PV aka UNKewlJ.

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Oh wow, this makes it MUCH worse than I thought!

I don't read every bit of the nonsense on WOV.

MDAWG, I actually got the "No long periods of Martingaling" from you.



$200-$3500???? Do you know how likely this makes for a positive session? 1-17 bet spread, Holy Shit. That is outrageous. No wonder Wizard wanted to speak so badly. I had no idea it was this bad.

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the bray by that fucking jackass Seedvalue is of no value, nor is the claim made without supporting details by the unnamed forum members and the "impeccable source.

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Wrong again, resin breath.

It's of significant value in the court of public opinion.

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Stupid people believe stupid thkngs, eh coach?

Nod nod, wink wink

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Stupid people believe stupid thkngs, eh coach?

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I don't know, what stupid things do you mean?

Are you really THAT stupid?

You have to ask?

Have you the attention span of a junkie?

But OK, the stupid things I referred to were alluded to in my preceding post, i.e. the alleged "evidence" adduced / offered by "attorney" MDawg to "prove" his claim that "KJ IS a male prostitute."

He says in essence "others say it so it must be true."

Lame...very lame...especially for a PI atty.

Now for all I now KJ might be a male prosititue, the hound might be a wealthy Egyptian ex-pat who went to law school and is coasting on family money, and you might actually be a coach: but absent proof we'll never know.


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Sorry hound, but the bray by that fucking jackass Seedvalue is of no value, nor is the claim made without supporting details by the unnamed forum members and the "impeccable source."

You're a fucking lawyer...at least you say you are...ever heard of the hearsay rule as to probative value?

I sniff out no exceptions to the rule in what you've posted.

No, Just more unproven, unfounded accusations, aka lies, aka bullshit.

Epic fail.

And unlike your claim: "THAT's a fact, jack..."

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Be careful what you say about Seedvalue.

He might extend his dick through your window and slap you in the face with it.

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Got it?

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No I don't follow your explanation of why those are stupid things.

I thought you meant this...

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a big problem would be scheduling games for two teams using the same stadium.

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Now that's stupid.

Get it?

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we'll never know.

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That's why it's called public opinion.

Got it?

I don't get it.

^fires up, takes a big hit...^

WGAS?

UNKewlJ (aka PV) doesn’t get it, as usual. The bet spread just indicates what the low bet for the session was and what the highest bet of the session was. There was no martingale.

Just stick to the red to green blackjack, low end video poker and male prostitution. You embarrass yourself when you venture into anything else, and even often when you talk about even these subjects (such as when the disgruntled John blackened your eye).

Hey hound, you gonna proffer any proof that he's a male prostitute and that a John gave him a black eye?

If not, why not?

What, we should simply BELIEVE you?

Bwa ha ha ... fat chance.

Why does he need to provide proof? You can't tell?

V, have you ever provided any proof of anything you've ever claimed about yourself--or about anyone else?

Kew is much easier to undress because of various reports posted here from others in LV, and from his massive posts about himself and his own wimpiness. Therefore, one could establish from a preponderance of evidence that he is what most believe him to be.

Case closed.

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Hey hound, you gonna proffer any proof that he's a male prostitute and that a John gave him a black eye?

If not, why not?

What, we should simply BELIEVE you?

Bwa ha ha ... fat chance.

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On second thought, not even a jury would have him: he's all mouth, and, no ears (or brain matter in between).


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Oh, well, you get out of it what you put in, which is no different for lawyers. Given especially that man-made laws are the ultimate trash.