Here you go AxelWolf

[MDawg]

I appreciate your tone, MDawg.

In my experience, which is blackjack only (or mainly), in most cases, when a player is backed off, barred, or told "no more blackjack", he has probably already missed a couple warning signs. These signs can be anything from a change in demeanor from pit personnel, staring at the player just to make them uncomfortable, the flipping through the discard rack when bets are raised, reduced penetration, to loss or reduction in comps and offers, including zeroing out comp dollars. Not always but in most cases, in my experience, the backoff or "no more blackjack" is not the first signal.

The first place that did this to me was South Point. No surprise really. They were in my regular rotation at the time for blackjack and I gave them a decent amount of rated machine play because they were giving decent mail offers. So one month I was expecting significant free play mail offer based on my coin in and I received no mailer. I inquired at the players card and was actually told that I had been "no mailed". Next time I plated blackjack I was backed off and have been backed off many times since. And I have had other offers stop and accounts zeroed out, so I try not to keep too much in them.

Your 3x bet restriction is a new one for me, in Vegas. I have never heard of anyone being bet restricted to that amount. As a matter of fact, I haven't seen or heard of much bet restricting in Vegas. I had a 1-10 bet restriction in Atlantic City and know of a number of players that have had that same restriction as it is the law or used to be back in 2008-2009 time frame. They would pull out a bet limit card that read minimum bet $5 Maximum bet $50, regardless that you might be playing a $25, $50 or even $100 table. But I just haven't heard of a lot of bet restricting (other than flat betting) done in Vegas. Not calling you a liar or saying it didn't happen....just a new one to me.

Some other time, in my own thread, I'l post in my own Adventures the details of the circumstances leading up to my getting handicapped with the 3X spread. I have mentioned this probably a dozen times over at WOV - you must have missed it.

Now - is it possible KewlJ, that you were first put on a DNI (Do Not Invite) status and then the comps were cut off? In other words, that the action came from casino management to cut you off from blackjack, and then of course when that happens, casino management has the option of just letting it go at that or taking it further and taking steps to have you removed from the property entirely.

As described, my experience has been, for known rated players who have been giving the casino good action, is to cut us off from blackjack only, and tell us that we are free to play any other table games - and in such circumstances, casino marketing/hosts aren't even brought into the equation.

Now, it's a bit of a chicken and the egg discussion - because you mention the drying up of offers and comps, but is it possible that all that happened is that they decided to cut you off from their casino entirely, which would then of course as well cut off the comps, versus that they cut off comps first while leaving your ability to play blackjack intact.

People are put on DNI status for different reasons - and it's not quite the same as being 86'ed because they might still be allowed to walk through the property, but their offers are cut off entirely. I knew a guy who was put on DNI for chip hustling - he kept trying to get high rollers to bankroll him claiming that he had money but not with him. Another guy I knew got on DNI status for failing to pay his markers, in a situation where they didn't turn him over to the district attorney, for one reason or another, but somehow he ended up stiffing them and got away with it such that the statute of limitations passed and the debt was uncollectible. I suppose you could also wind up on DNI status for not paying your markers on time - paying them eventually, but very late. Etc.