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[tableplay]

For the same coin-in, N-play vp is lower variance than 1-play.

FOR THE RECORD, I stated tableplay, the moron IS A FRAUD BECAUSE S/HE isn’t conversant. I stand by that statement. tableplay, learn to read what I wrote. That is partly why you are a fraud.

I don’t why tableplay, the moron would start attacking me over FARMVILLE, but s/he did. I just asked for feedback on the FarmVille game and tableplay got butthurt over my FarmVille post. tableplay started a flamewar.

Here is how dumb (besides math-challenged, logic-challenged, etc) tableplay is:

N-play has covariance and this is a KNOWN FACT. So I will give you the seminal article that explains N-Play variance from the guy who worked out the math way before WoO entered the gambling scene.

“ What is the variance of N-play games?

It turns out the the variance of N-play has a simple linear relationship to the variance and covariance. To compute the variance of an N-play version of a game from the list, just add the base game variance to (N-1) times the covariance. For example, the variance of 9/6 Jacks in the 4-play version is 19.510 + (4-1)x1.966 = 25.408. (Note that variance is always given in units of bets squared.) The percentage column in the table gives the correlation coefficent (=100%*Covariance/Variance), which makes it easy to see that 4-play Jacks has about 30.2% more variance than the standard game per base bet. That is, for all four draws together the variance would be 4x(1.302) = 5.208 base bets squared instead of the 4 base bets squared you would get on four independent plays.”

source: http://jazbo.com/videopoker/nplay.html (the article was written over 20 years ago)

tableplay stated: For the same coin-in, N-play vp is lower variance than 1-play.

Jazbo stated: That is, for all four draws together the variance would be 4x(1.302) = 5.208 base bets squared instead of the 4 base bets squared you would get on four independent plays.

As I have been stating, tableplay is a fraud. tableplay is telling us 5.208 base bets squared < 4 base bets squared based on same coin in, same game or ceteris paribus. It’s so easy to spot the holes in tableplay’s stories.

Ex-Crement, getting the covariance of a specific VP game (for example a game like One-Eyed Jacks poker or a game like 8/5 JOB is something you don't know how to do. If you can't get it from Jazbo's table you (and by that I mean you specifically Ex-Crement) won't be able to get the N-play variance. You attacked me way before the Farmville comment cunt - you were the instigator not me. I guess I will just have to dig it up and post it here. Also you won't take me up in my IQ challenge and won't acknowledge it either. Did I get the Crows question right cunt ? I guess I must of because whenever you can't prove someone wrong it's just crickets. I did make a mistake with the multi-hand versus 1-hand play statement. I meant to write that the for the same coin-in, the risk of ruin for single hand is higher than for multi-hand.
Anyway, you can't calculate the covariance yourself - you rely on Jazbo.

Here is where the smug fuck known as Ex-Crement fired the first shot which pre-dates the Farmville comment:

Dude, do you even know what a 103%+ non-progressive VP game looks like?