kewlJ

[MDawg]

Combine this:

Give it up fraud. How many buildings HOA in Vegas have car service in Vegas? I will wait for that answer.

This is just another lie that you have been caught up in.

The only thing verifiable about you is you're a low level blackjack player spotted in the wild a few times. Once at blackjack tables with red and green chips in front of you and the rest in the accompaniment of an older Sugar Daddy.

Your posing about having BobN on speed dial, working for Grosjean (you know the guy who calls you a salamander), living in the Panorama being carted up and down the Strip by the car service, being databased as KewlJ, and a myriad of other things are all false. As to be expected by a complete and total fraud.

Anyone that believes a single word out of your mouth has to be a complete and utter idiot at this point. You should definitely quit posting as you feel so inclined to do every time you get completely hemmed in by your non-stop lies.

With this:

When he wrote "I live in a corner unit, which you previously described," he was reaffirming that he lives in the Panorama Towers / The Martin Towers on Dean Martin Dr. in LV, which is the location that at that time I was stating he lived in, that I "previously described." Also, how many residential condo towers are walking distance from both the Strip and the T-Mobile / Raiders stadiums, looks directly at T-Mobile and has the Raider's stadium south of it, and is even closer to the Tropicana (than to the Raider's stadium) where the A's stadium is supposed to be built? Geographically, no other residential tower fits.

all we have verified about the UNKewl one is that he lives at some little apartment where it's unclear whether he has any actual ownership, and does NOT play much blackjack at all. Let's be clear - the investigations done by others establish that he plays very little blackjack, not that he plays a lot.

According to one who knows he's more of a loser who stares at video poker machines all day long in low end locals only joints, when he leaves his apartment at all.

But,

You can't get to the truth with a fraud.

The guy's not even a good liar, can't keep track of his lies or offer them up with any consistency.

And in any case, it has become clear that he was evicted from the Panorama Towers / The Martin Towers on Dean Martin Dr. in LV, and and has been homeless for some time since,


which is why after going to great pains to try to claim that he lives there, that he cannot provide even a pic of its swimming pool.

There you have it. A 10x multiplier response which took more time than snapping a pic and getting a $500 payout. There really is nothing left to say. It is clearly evident FraudJ does not reside where he claims. This is just another lie. For protection of course....lol

My work here is done....RIP

and you see the magnitude of the babbling, hands flailing about helplessly, lying fraud.

At this point anyone who thinks FraudJ represents anything truthfully or factually correct is a fool.....RIP

[kewlJ]

Now, you know who I have on speed dial? Your are truly an amazing sleuth MaxPen.

Please link to where I ever said that worked for Grosjean. I have never revealed a name if who I might have worked with.

I'll wait while you post that link. Just like Rob, I'll be waiting a long time I suspect

I didn't need to look it up. Anyone reading this forum and paying attention knows exactly what is being said. You are a proven fraud.

So then you don't know how many communities have car service as you just insinuated? Wasn't that just you lying?

Just like your red chip comments, you lied, because I have not played red chip during my time in Vegas. So that was you lying.

And these things you repeat about me being homeless is you lying and you know it.

So is it fair to call you a serial liar, or compulsive liar? Or is there a different standard we should use for you because you are such a great and decent guy?

[Rob.Singer]

It's nothing against MDawg, but back when it seemed like 50% of the forum activity was combative and seemed to involve him, especially when Wellbush and MarcusClark were around, had I still been an Admin it would have been, "Just give me a reason." It's nothing personal; I generally like MDawg now, but I would have seen all of this as both disruptive and a net negative to the forum.

Now, looking at the thread just for you, it seems that the last few days are pictures, session results and he likes to discuss happenings on the ground, in Las Vegas. The pictures are cool and the discussions are civil. MDawg v. The World is also not seemingly pervading every other thread on the forum.

Honestly, there's a total difference in the overall tone of his thread now. All's well that ends well, imo. If ever MDawg did do harm to the forum, I certainly don't see what harm he's doing now. I'll probably actually keep an eye on the thread a bit as I didn't know MDawg discusses news stories, and such, until now.

Weren't Wellbush and MarcusClark sockpuppets of Madwg? If not sock puppets some kind of confederate/accomplice.

The pictures of different things and the goings on in Vegas are fine. I commented just the other day that there were some great pics posted in that thread from the U2 concert. And even the story of a higher limit player that wins and loses and gets great comps would have been great. I always said that.

And yes, When Mdawg posts of his play now, he gets almost no response. 1 or 2 people that I think are more or less playing with him by responding, like SooPoo. And that is good. But what did it take to get here? A number of good posters, real players, left during that time that so many were being suspended. And now look what Mdawg does instead of posting his phony win reports. He attacks everyone, not just me, although I bare the brunt, but everybody that ever dared challenge him, even Axelwolf. It is an agenda to discredit. This guy Mdawg is a sleezebag and a troll, and set out to mock and disrupt WoV and even mock Mike, IMO. He is a clone of Rob Singer. Actually using many things from the singer playbook.

Kew, are you getting it yet? More posters are saying positive things about mdawg, you're just telling another lie with your silly claim that you "neutered" him, and I see nobody here who believes you on anything or trusts you to be telling the truth about anything (other than MrV, who is really pulling your bad leg). If you were counting stars, what would you say all that amounted to?

Face it--you are now and will forever be identified as a fraud and a liar. And isn't that just wonderful news for the dumbass who so desperately wants, needs, and craves the respect of those whom your loads of lies tries to impress! We all know you live in shit as well. I've had your name and other info for a long time, as you know, and your background is as pathetic as the BS show you put on around here. You're dying a death by a thousand cuts the longer you lie your way thru your exposed fabricated forum life. But what else does one do when they have a so-called "real life" that ain't worth two shits?

I ENJOY watching you getting tormented. I ENJOY seeing you suffer at your own hands. Have some Grape Nuts and try to enjoy SOMETHING! Your loser Phillies let you down. Now I'm going to Game 5. You're always 3 steps behind.

[MDawg]

Buut...buuut...

I really don't care what people think about me.

[MaxPen]

I have no idea how many condo communities have car service. I never looked into that. I have to wonder why you have?

So you have contacted every condo community asking if they have car service? I mean off hand I can think of vehicles with the name of several communities that I have seen, one on the strip, two more just off strip.

Pretty much anyone familiar with the high rises of Vegas knows that Panorama is the only HOA with an on demand car service for it's residents. Although you do have to make reservations in advance and it is subject to availability. It is a much hyped selling feature because they are the only ones to have such a thing.

Places like Turnberry and what not have transportation to and from the airport. But they're not going to cart a resident out to the Strip for his daily blackjack grind.

Everytime you get caught in a lie you try to squirm out of it even more than other people you accuse of doing the same thing.

[Mission146]

To imply that MDawg would object?

I wouldn't think that he'd object. For one thing, I've always gotten along with him, on a personal level, in our brief interactions.

Secondly, like I said, all's well that ends well. I don't see his presence on the forum being significantly disruptive any longer, and from what I can tell from recently looking at his thread, he is now a net positive who adds value to the forum.

I'm just speaking the truth of what I would have done. I'm not going to lie about what I would have done to stay in someone's good graces. The question is, relative to that time, did I seem his as a net positive to the forum. That answer is: No, not in my opinion. I think he is now. At the time, were I in a position in which it was my responsibility that the forum remain in good order, I'd have done something about it.

My opinion doesn't matter of course, but in my opinion your comments today have disqualified you from ever holding that position again. Even I never advocated that Mdawg be nuked. I said his thread should be hidden and people be allowed to challenge and call him out without being suspended.

Very similarly, I don't like coach belly very much. Or at least his trolling participation on forums. But when Mike nuked belly, Mike said he had been looking for a reason to get rid of him for a long time. To me that is bullshit. If someone is disruptive or a "net negative" as you say, you don't need to "find" a reason. You have a reason. Especially if you have decided that person intent is to only be disruptive. I mean this isn't rocket science. It isn't hard to see when someone just wants to be disruptive.

But mods walking around saying they are looking for a reason, or looked for a reason, is biased. I think Mike said something like that to Billryan one time, early on.

People can't accuse someone of being a liar without being Suspended, unless they can prove it.

If you think that disqualifies me, then that disqualifies me. I don't plan to be a WoV Admin again, so I really don't care what may or may not be disqualifying. In the case of MDawg, what I saw at that time, was shameless self-promotion that was spilling over into other threads; that creates hijacking, for one. The second thing was that he would occasionally, as I perceived, appear in other threads to argue with people and specifically for that purpose. That's trolling. The third thing is that his lackeys, WellBush and MarcusClark (no, I'm not saying MDawg was in cahoots with them, but they were still his lackeys) have since gotten themselves both Nuked, so I think that proves my point.


Listen, my attitude towards Administration is-as much as possible-not to delay the inevitable if I know someone is going to end up Nuked. I also don't want a variation of the same arguments with the same people, about the same topics, over and over again, for all eternity.

Now, I could do temporary bans, right? The problem with that is all parties return and push the line, push the line, push the line until I'd have to do something about them again. It's just rinse and repeat.

So, the most expedient thing to do is determine who adds the most value to the Forum. Value's added with good posts and good information. I'd look at prior to MDawg being there if people were going around picking fights or making useful posts. Probably making useful posts.

Okay, so MDawg, for one reason or the other (relative to the time) is the problem. Get rid of MDawg and there is no longer a problem.

Of course, if people were blowing up my PM's to get rid of MDawg like I had going on with Karen/Nathan/Tasha, then I wouldn't have laid a finger on him unless I absolutely had to.

So, when I say, "Find a reason," I'm just going to enforce the rules. I'll be doing it unequally and with bias, but I'd be enforcing them, and my decisions would be defensible. I was always willing to publicly defend my decisions.

Anyway, if you think that I can just categorically say someone is a, 'Net negative,' then Nuke them, certainly you can't be opposed to me going out of my way to find a violation of a much clearer rule.

Of course I'm biased. I'm biased in favor of the same thing you claim to be biased in favor of---keeping the Forum in good order. Would you have objected to me nuking MDawg? Doubt it.

[kewlJ]

If there was a legit reason, then no I would have had no objection. But if you were "looking for" a reason, then yes I would object. Being who it is we are talking about, probablywouldnt have voiced that objection, but I would have found that not right.

[kewlJ]

MaxPen, you have just "changed". That is all I am going to say. I don't know you personally, so I am talking about forum behavior.

And I am not talking about the lawsuit sleuthing. You had every right to do that and I am completely Ok with it. I am talking about all this trolling and name calling since.

[Mission146]

If there was a legit reason, then no I would have had no objection. But if you were "looking for" a reason, then yes I would object. Being who it is we are talking about, probablywouldnt have voiced that objection, but I would have found that not right.

You wouldn't have known I was specifically looking for a reason.

Here's the thing: If you're going to ban based on Rule-IForgetTheNumber, then that's the hardest one to defend. You're saying, "Hey, this person is really disruptive to the site, but I don't have a specific Rule that I can point to and say that he has broken this, or these, rules a ton." It also looks like a popularity contest.

If I can find a rule that they violated where I can defend the ban by pointing to a clear rule, then that's much easier.

[kewlJ]

Ok Mission. I got to go. Beautiful day here. I meant to get out by noon (an hour ago) but stayed longer because you were here today and I usually enjoy talking to you.

Have a good day.

[MaxPen]

MaxPen, you have just "changed". That is all I am going to say. I don't know you personally, so I am talking about forum behavior.

And I am not talking about the lawsuit sleuthing. You had every right to do that and I am completely Ok with it. I am talking about all this trolling and name calling since.

Yeah, it's best for you to keep your mouth shut. Especially on stuff you have no clue about. Go read about something else Vegas centric and create another story. Be sure to tie it around your well rehearsed blackjack tales. Anything to break up the monotony of the day to day in the tunnels between tricks....RIP

[Mission146]

Ok Mission. I got to go. Beautiful day here. I meant to get out by noon (an hour ago) but stayed longer because you were here today and I usually enjoy talking to you.

Have a good day.

82 degrees? Gross. It's pretty gross here, as well. A blistering 75. Have a good day to you, too.

[MDawg]

I have no idea how many condo communities have car service. I never looked into that. I have to wonder why you have?

So you have contacted every condo community asking if they have car service? I mean off hand I can think of vehicles with the name of several communities that I have seen, one on the strip, two more just off strip.

Pretty much anyone familiar with the high rises of Vegas knows that Panorama is the only HOA with an on demand car service for it's residents. Although you do have to make reservations in advance and it is subject to availability. It is a much hyped selling feature because they are the only ones to have such a thing.

Places like Turnberry and what not have transportation to and from the airport. But they're not going to cart a resident out to the Strip for his daily blackjack grind.

Everytime you get caught in a lie you try to squirm out of it even more than other people you accuse of doing the same thing.

Not only that but he doxxed himself stating that he lived there

The bum doxxed MDawg before anyone even allegedly doxxed him. He admitted to it but tried to claim that “doxxing someone I decide is not an AP is A-Okay!”

He claims that he saw a post at truepassage.com that disclosed his first name and the condo complex where he lives. I never saw the post - it was deleted off that site by that site's admin before I even had a chance to see it. BUT, after he saw this alleged post, he made this long post here at VCT
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...ama#post137348
where he disclosed everything that was supposedly in this doxxing post, about where he lives, the Panorama Towers / The Martin Towers on Dean Martin Dr. in LV.

In other words, he doxxed himself with everything about which he had just complained!

and then later followed up in various postings insisting that he lived there, even describing the exact orientation of his condo and bedroom.

When he wrote "I live in a corner unit, which you previously described," he was reaffirming that he lives in the Panorama Towers / The Martin Towers on Dean Martin Dr. in LV, which is the location that at that time I was stating he lived in, that I "previously described." Also, how many residential condo towers are walking distance from both the Strip and the T-Mobile / Raiders stadiums, looks directly at T-Mobile and has the Raider's stadium south of it, and is even closer to the Tropicana (than to the Raider's stadium) where the A's stadium is supposed to be built? Geographically, no other residential tower fits.

The guy's not even a good liar, can't keep track of his lies or offer them up with any consistency.

At this point he's desperate to continue with the concocted persona.

Anything to break up the monotony of the day to day in the tunnels between tricks....RIP

[MDawg]

Given that he's tried so hard to convince us that he lives in those Panorama Towers, the only reason he failed to produce the swimming pool / surfboard picture from those Towers, is because neither is available to him. All concocted lies from a compulsive liar.

Guess who said this UNKewlJ?

He's pretty much a pathological liar you can't believe anything he says. But also probably a sociopath and they have no guilt no shame no embarrassment. They simply make up lies to cover the other lies.

Could it be perhaps that well known AP you used to think is on your side?

But it was so well said I decided to just adopt it for myself.

monet on what a flip flopping liar UNKewlJ is:
It never ends with this guy.
He posts one thing today and a week later tells everyone he was lying.
And does it how many times now?

[Rob.Singer]

Ok Mission. I got to go. Beautiful day here. I meant to get out by noon (an hour ago) but stayed longer because you were here today and I usually enjoy talking to you.

Have a good day.

82 degrees? Gross. It's pretty gross here, as well. A blistering 75. Have a good day to you, too.

It's a nice 82 here today too....and we're getting ready for the World Series.

Boz, I of course do remember that video. Waiting for kew to lie shout that too!

[Gottlob]

Hey Garnabby, how's that theory of everything coming?

I thought you were going to be away for six weeks to polish it for publication?

*awaits enlightenment with bated breath*

I have six weeks of other work to do, first. Filed a couple of things, today; added to another file, yesterday, so, I'm slowly getting back into the other stuff. But, I ended up with some spare time to work on it, tonight. Not a bad idea to put it on the back burner, though, to let things further percolate. Pretty sure that the wait will be well worth it. I have no doubt that it's the real deal. Ha.

I finished with a lot of the other stuff that was coming up, and, so, hopefully, I will catch a few days along the way here and there, all the way to Christmas if necessary, to polish it up for publication. Pretty much on my own schedule. It's nice, in a way, to have this place for motivation with the fringe stuff.

*amazing that you asked me that, about six weeks ago, in the KJ thread, which is still going strong.

[accountinquestion]

It's nothing against MDawg, but back when it seemed like 50% of the forum activity was combative and seemed to involve him, especially when Wellbush and MarcusClark were around, had I still been an Admin it would have been, "Just give me a reason." It's nothing personal; I generally like MDawg now, but I would have seen all of this as both disruptive and a net negative to the forum.

Now, looking at the thread just for you, it seems that the last few days are pictures, session results and he likes to discuss happenings on the ground, in Las Vegas. The pictures are cool and the discussions are civil. MDawg v. The World is also not seemingly pervading every other thread on the forum.

Honestly, there's a total difference in the overall tone of his thread now. All's well that ends well, imo. If ever MDawg did do harm to the forum, I certainly don't see what harm he's doing now. I'll probably actually keep an eye on the thread a bit as I didn't know MDawg discusses news stories, and such, until now.

Weren't Wellbush and MarcusClark sockpuppets of Madwg? If not sock puppets some kind of confederate/accomplice.

The pictures of different things and the goings on in Vegas are fine. I commented just the other day that there were some great pics posted in that thread from the U2 concert. And even the story of a higher limit player that wins and loses and gets great comps would have been great. I always said that.

And yes, When Mdawg posts of his play now, he gets almost no response. 1 or 2 people that I think are more or less playing with him by responding, like SooPoo. And that is good. But what did it take to get here? A number of good posters, real players, left during that time that so many were being suspended. And now look what Mdawg does instead of posting his phony win reports. He attacks everyone, not just me, although I bare the brunt, but everybody that ever dared challenge him, even Axelwolf. It is an agenda to discredit. This guy Mdawg is a sleezebag and a troll, and set out to mock and disrupt WoV and even mock Mike, IMO. He is a clone of Rob Singer. Actually using many things from the singer playbook.

Kew, are you getting it yet? More posters are saying positive things about mdawg, you're just telling another lie with your silly claim that you "neutered" him, and I see nobody here who believes you on anything or trusts you to be telling the truth about anything (other than MrV, who is really pulling your third leg). If you were counting stars, what would you say all that amounted to?

Face it--you are now and will forever be identified as a fraud and a liar. And isn't that just wonderful news for the dumbass who so desperately wants, needs, and craves the respect of those whom your loads of lies tries to impress! We all know you live in shit as well. I've had your name and other info for a long time, as you know, and your background is as pathetic as the BS show you put on around here. You're dying a death by a thousand cuts the longer you lie your way thru your exposed fabricated forum life. But what else does one do when they have a so-called "real life" that ain't worth two shits?

I ENJOY watching you getting tormented. I ENJOY seeing you suffer at your own hands. Have some Grape Nuts and try to enjoy SOMETHING! Your loser Phillies let you down. Now I'm going to Game 5. You're always 3 steps behind.

Mr V, stop pulling that "leg" of Kewls

[MDawg]

Face it--you are now and will forever be identified as a fraud and a liar.

Well spoken, well said!

Or as MaxPen would say,

R.I.P.

[kewlJ]

At the end of the day, those that want to believe that can believe that can Mdawg. They have always had that option. But I think the majority of that group will be trolls, anti-APers, life long losing players, KJ haters for reason that have nothing to do with gambling. I don't think there will be many APs and real player that have read what I have shared about my blackjack career and experiences and think that. Obviously MaxPen, maybe a couple others.

But here is what has never occurred: Never has someone who most consider an expert or very knowledgeable like Wizard or Dan Druff (or most real APs), come out and said they doubted my blackjack experiences or that my experiences defy math or the way Las Vegas works, like has happened with both Mdawg and Singer. And the reason is that everything I said and shared is exactly the way things work, including the math.

Gambling and advantage play is math. That seems to be the big divide. Your Singers, Mdawgs, most losing players and other storytellers have never understood that.

Dan Druff has said he didn't believe the entire backroom incident. But that is all. Maybe that will have changed his mind about everything I have ever shared....who knows. Maybe you should get to work lobbying that behind the scenes Mdawg.

About the closest anyone that understands how things work can point to with questions is my longevity. That is a bit unusual. But that is also the essence of what I do and what my game plan was from the minute I relocated. And I think I have explained some of the things I do that have allowed me to achieve the longevity that I have up til now. I have explained and answered that in more detail than I should have actually. Of course, that was never going to make a difference to people that don't play and understand the game or how things work, and/or had made up their mind long ago based on some unrelated bias.

So really, I am fine if that is what anyone concludes. It really is no skin of my nose. I am NOT writing a book or story. I am not lobbying to be known as the greatest gambler, blackjack player, or AP. I haven't labeled myself some stupid shit like "the pope of Las Vegas". If anyone decides they don't believe me, it changes absolutely nothing for me. I am still doing what I do. I just have a few haters and non-believers.

[kewlJ]

There is one other huge distinction here. What happens when someone doesn't believe another member's claims or story?

Well Mdawg starts attacking, starting individual threads (mostly filled with lies) about every single person that expresses doubts. Singer? Well he doesn't own his own forum, so there are no individual threads, but he attacks on a very personal level as soon as someone expressed doubt. Mdawg I believe, copied this from Singer. Maxpen is now doing the same, as does AinQ.

Now what do I do. My first tendency is to better try to explain myself. Knowing expressing myself is a weakness, I sort of put the onus on me to better do so. I try to engage in adult type discussion and conversation, even with people like blackhole, or the late Alan Mendelson, who I believe were being dis-ingenuous. .

But personal attacks are never my first response. If I engage in some kind of personal attack, it is in response to repeated attacks and lies about me and my family.

Now someone like coach belly will point out the nasty things I said to/about Alan, which I apologized for almost immediately. I hope this doesn't offend his son, if he is reading, but Alan had a way of frustrating me. I think he was an experienced forum guy and enjoyed stirring things as many here do and he has a way of getting under my skin...a way of pushing buttons.