Recent interview with Eliot Jacobson

[jdog]

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[accountinquestion]

I'm not sure what a traditional vaccine is but yes, you quoted the word as in you didn't believe it to be a vaccine.
No clue about Sweden and don't care at this point.
I'm just throwing out anecdotal stuff in response to your anecdotal stuff about the 2 friends almost dying.

Well it wasn't me who didn't think it was a vaccine... the CDC changed the definition of a vaccine in order to encompass the mRNA shots (which also happened to release big pharma from liability) but the official reason was to be more "transparent". This from the same people who stopped collecting Covid vax adverse event data about a year ago.

When you do a scientific experiment you need a 'control' group. Sweden has always been the closest thing we've had to one.

To me, knowing someone who developed ventricle fibrillation within days of the booster really brought the reality of all this home (btw this symptom was also stated in Pfizer's adverse reactions section of their trial data) but sure, it's anecdotal of course. You want data? You want articles? Sure, how much time have you got?? A study group and I dug into all this stuff for over a year and a half.

It is unfortunate but I really just don't care much anymore. It is so much political stuff. I never said the vaccination doesn't cause heart issues. That has been established. You put the word vaccine in quotes by itself which seems to suggest you don't think it is one. I believe it is, but with many unfortunate issues and and not near as efficient as we had hoped. For the most part everyone did as good of a job as they could with the exception of pharma executives but thats America and we dug that hole for ourselves.

I'm not sure what went on with Sweden. I've seen other studies that seemed solid but then there are so many confounding variables. I can go down these rabbitholes but I'm not too compelled. Everything around this is so hyper-politicized. Zerohedge is your example case in point. I could go into why that anonymous internet data is probably very questionable by now and what might motivate people to keep reporting adverse effects. (Are people forced to know about this website? Is there some proof of people actually taking the vaccination to report?) People are obsessed with this shit and weirdos at that.

Yet I'd also like it all opened up by the manufacturers.

I'm not sure why you're pissed. I'm just explaining to you why I respond the way I did. Not challenging but you seem to think your anecdotal stuff should be any more important to me than other anecdotal stuff. I guess I'm just saying people died from it just like people got sick from the vaccination. Without knowing how much it helps removing symptoms then it is really hard to compare any of it as we really don't know the tradeoffs. So many people had already caught it by the time the vaccines were available. I wouldn't be terribly surprised that by the time the vaccines rolled out - they did more harm than good due to so many people having already caught it. I caught it post-vax and had no lingering symptoms but I did get the shivers. Very weird thing for your body to shake violently as you get under covers. I really just didn't want long covid.

How this became such a political thing kinda screwed reasonable discussion. And thats from both sides. The mask lockdown tyranny started with the left so by the time the vaccinations rolled out they were already seen as the devil's blood. Too tiresome to me by now. I don't think most posters on here would even evoke a fraction of the response I've given you.

[accountinquestion]

I am happy to educate anyone here on the reality of what was simply a heist of epic, well that's not even big enough, let's say biblical proportions. But I won't continue to respond to anyone repeating more of the narrative that the media here repeated over and over. It was apparent as early as April 2020 that U.S. mainstream media were cherry picking their data because I could rarely corroborate their headlines. Ask a question and I will answer it and provide proof, but only if you actually want to learn something. It's time to accept the fact we were all lied to over and over.

You still didn't explain that graph and what the take-away of it should be like I had asked/hoped.

[mickeycrimm]

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[redietz]

I am happy to educate anyone here on the reality of what was simply a heist of epic, well that's not even big enough, let's say biblical proportions. But I won't continue to respond to anyone repeating more of the narrative that the media here repeated over and over. It was apparent as early as April 2020 that U.S. mainstream media were cherry picking their data because I could rarely corroborate their headlines. Ask a question and I will answer it and provide proof, but only if you actually want to learn something. It's time to accept the fact we were all lied to over and over.

There really is no pure US control group because Pfizer scuttled 90% of it. The alleged control group all received "vaccine" shortly after the initial testing. In the name of "humane propriety." After all, if the "vaccine" worked as well as touted, it would be inhumane to deny a control group treatment with lives at stake.

I have no idea what things would have looked like under a Trump administration, but the censorship was (to me) intolerable. Worst denial of free speech in US history. I don't think a Trump administration would have crippled free speech on media platforms the same way.

Five states are suing. At some point, way late, we will see real numbers. What galls me is the current bundling of Covid-19 boosters with regular flu shots for everybody in the US over six. Only in the US, far as I know at this point. Nobody else is buying the blanket recommendation that Pfizer is selling. The rest of the world will soon be its own kind of control group for boosters.

[accountinquestion]

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I couldn't only get through half of it trying to understand where the disagreement is. He's totally right, people don't give a shit, no one wants to make the sacrifices so we're fucked. Thats the thing about the US - we fix our energy production yet export it to poor countries that will lead to other country's being carbon heavy.

Is there something else to it but glad to see you coming around and listening to me. If you want to have me listen to the 2nd half you need to explain why or pay me.

edit - Also, climate change has been a known thing for many decades and was first theorized over 100 years ago. His talk about "woke" is nonsense for all the basic simps who look for their info from youtube. Something you and redietz share in common surprisingly. But hey, he gets political points.

BTW I've seen this video before many years ago... but yea.. he basically supports me.

Thanks.

[mickeycrimm]

n

I couldn't only get through half of it trying to understand where the disagreement is. He's totally right, people don't give a shit, no one wants to make the sacrifices so we're fucked. Thats the thing about the US - we fix our energy production yet export it to poor countries that will lead to other country's being carbon heavy.

Is there something else to it but glad to see you coming around and listening to me. If you want to have me listen to the 2nd half you need to explain why or pay me.

edit - Also, climate change has been a known thing for many decades and was first theorized over 100 years ago. His talk about "woke" is nonsense for all the basic simps who look for their info from youtube. Something you and redietz share in common surprisingly. But hey, he gets political points.

BTW I've seen this video before many years ago... but yea.. he basically supports me.

Thanks.

I'm not coming around to your victim mentality. I Didn't put the video up for your benefit. Other people read this thread. Don't give a fuck what a fanatic believes. Convince yourself of anything you want but I don't give a fuck what you believe and won't take one second out of my day to try to convince a fanatic of anything. If you are to stupid to finish watching it then, well, you can't fix stupid.

PS Kisin's oxford speech isn't years old.

[jdog]

Zerohedge is your example case in point. I could go into why that anonymous internet data is probably very questionable by now and what might motivate people to keep reporting adverse effects. (Are people forced to know about this website? Is there some proof of people actually taking the vaccination to report?)

Did you actually read the article? And yes, if you want to really dig out the truth you have to look in every dark corner of the internet because mainstream media platforms censored anyone who went against the narrative as misinformation. There is no unbiased media, period. So you end up on far right, conspiracy theory sites, international media, ect... but I actually spent a lot of time reading scientific journals and study results. I've even read about 50 actual VAERS entries. I liked this article on zerohedge because it was well written and entertaining, but I did corroborate what was stated about V-safe program being shut down. So you think 3.3M people made false reports?? Even if a million of those were nutjobs we still end up with major concerns here. It says below 800,000 people reported an adverse event so severe it required medical attention?? I'm thinking that was probably not good for vax sales, so they had to take it all down.

You still didn't explain that graph and what the take-away of it should be like I had asked/hoped.

I apologize if you asked a question about the graph I didn't answer, but sure let's talk about it. Even found a more up to date version for you.

So the brown dotted line is a projection of how many people would normally die in any given week. The light brown line is actual deaths, but keep in mind Covid related deaths have been subtracted from both datasets, so it is out of play here because we just want to know how many more people are dying of other causes. The green vertical line around Spring 2021 represents the approx time the shots became widely available. Now notice how prior to Covid the two lines stick very close together, then Covid hits in Spring 2020 and you see a big spike. Nothing unexpected about that, people were locked down and not going to the doctor, plus they were terrified out of their minds. We see a lot of excess deaths in general throughout most of 2020 but in 2021 the lines come back together and it looks like we might even see a correction starting... until the shots come out. Then the actual deaths take off again and deviate alarmingly from the projection. IMO based just on the 2021 data here, the shots should have been pulled by Fall 2021 to investigate what was going on with this. Not to mention at that time over 10K vaccine deaths had already been reported to the VAERS system, and these are reported by healthcare workers, not right wing nuts btw. Was there a headline or an investigation? Nope. A real vax safety study published in the US? Nope. They did one in Israel and it got buried pretty quick. Instead the narrative here started pushing this stuff on children very hard around this time.

Bottom line is we are now looking at somewhere around 700K deaths above what would normally be expected since Spring 2021. This is US data only, but you can find similar occurrences in many other countries death data, along with a massive drop in birth rates. Not even sure what the VAERS vax death toll is up to now.

[accountinquestion]

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I couldn't only get through half of it trying to understand where the disagreement is. He's totally right, people don't give a shit, no one wants to make the sacrifices so we're fucked. Thats the thing about the US - we fix our energy production yet export it to poor countries that will lead to other country's being carbon heavy.

Is there something else to it but glad to see you coming around and listening to me. If you want to have me listen to the 2nd half you need to explain why or pay me.

edit - Also, climate change has been a known thing for many decades and was first theorized over 100 years ago. His talk about "woke" is nonsense for all the basic simps who look for their info from youtube. Something you and redietz share in common surprisingly. But hey, he gets political points.

BTW I've seen this video before many years ago... but yea.. he basically supports me.

Thanks.

I'm not coming around to your victim mentality. I Didn't put the video up for your benefit. Other people read this thread. Don't give a fuck what a fanatic believes. Convince yourself of anything you want but I don't give a fuck what you believe and won't take one second out of my day to try to convince a fanatic of anything. If you are to stupid to finish watching it then, well, you can't fix stupid.

PS Kisin's oxford speech isn't years old.

I'm a fanatic because why?

Is it a fanatic to insist you'll lose all your money pushing the button on a slot machine? It is the same way with our behavior. Not much changing, temperature will keep going up up up. That means we'll lose.

"victim mentality". Wow you're getting desperate. Thats some dumb shit and I'm not going to get into it. You just don't know what to say so you're slingin random shit.

I watched enough to see we're in agreement. He sounds really impressive the way he goes on passionately. All these totally wrong fucks really get behind that.

It jumped from 'climate change is bullshit' to 'we're too late to do anything'.

It is 1.5 years old, round that up to 2. Who cares. You don't, right?

Never seen you so wound up until I pointed out the guy more or less agreed with me. I don't recall if he says we should not do anything or if we do something it won't matter. I am more of the latter but whatever.

I've watched your videos before. You love the clickbait titles of the random loon standing up for being wrong.

[accountinquestion]

Zerohedge is your example case in point. I could go into why that anonymous internet data is probably very questionable by now and what might motivate people to keep reporting adverse effects. (Are people forced to know about this website? Is there some proof of people actually taking the vaccination to report?)

Did you actually read the article? And yes, if you want to really dig out the truth you have to look in every dark corner of the internet because mainstream media platforms censored anyone who went against the narrative as misinformation. There is no unbiased media, period. So you end up on far right, conspiracy theory sites, international media, ect... but I actually spent a lot of time reading scientific journals and study results. I've even read about 50 actual VAERS entries. I liked this article on zerohedge because it was well written and entertaining, but I did corroborate what was stated about V-safe program being shut down. So you think 3.3M people made false reports?? Even if a million of those were nutjobs we still end up with major concerns here. It says below 800,000 people reported an adverse event so severe it required medical attention?? I'm thinking that was probably not good for vax sales, so they had to take it all down.

You still didn't explain that graph and what the take-away of it should be like I had asked/hoped.

I apologize if you asked a question about the graph I didn't answer, but sure let's talk about it. Even found a more up to date version for you.

So the brown dotted line is a projection of how many people would normally die in any given week. The light brown line is actual deaths, but keep in mind Covid related deaths have been subtracted from both datasets, so it is out of play here because we just want to know how many more people are dying of other causes. The green vertical line around Spring 2021 represents the approx time the shots became widely available. Now notice how prior to Covid the two lines stick very close together, then Covid hits in Spring 2020 and you see a big spike. Nothing unexpected about that, people were locked down and not going to the doctor, plus they were terrified out of their minds. We see a lot of excess deaths in general throughout most of 2020 but in 2021 the lines come back together and it looks like we might even see a correction starting... until the shots come out. Then the actual deaths take off again and deviate alarmingly from the projection. IMO based just on the 2021 data here, the shots should have been pulled by Fall 2021 to investigate what was going on with this. Not to mention at that time over 10K vaccine deaths had already been reported to the VAERS system, and these are reported by healthcare workers, not right wing nuts btw. Was there a headline or an investigation? Nope. A real vax safety study published in the US? Nope. They did one in Israel and it got buried pretty quick. Instead the narrative here started pushing this stuff on children very hard around this time.

Bottom line is we are now looking at somewhere around 700K deaths above what would normally be expected since Spring 2021. This is US data only, but you can find similar occurrences in many other countries death data, along with a massive drop in birth rates. Not even sure what the VAERS vax death toll is up to now.

Interesting. I tried to take it in. It tells a decent story but there are so many actors in the story. Covid deaths have to be measured accurately and how about long covid? But ultimately I won't and don't intend to play devils advocate. Just to be clear - I accept that vaccine did not have the bad effects publicized. It was considerably less safe than what we were presented. I'm not willing to accept it is as bad as some say but I'm also open to still underestimating the dangerous side-effects.

I wish this had not been so politicized, just like the border. I take in the political angle and just tune it out as noise.

The lack of safety reports is definitely concerning. What bothers me even more is how it is tied into pharma profits. It actually bothers me less to know government officials covered something up than big corporate. Big corporate barely cares if we live. Indeed - if they can make $$ on us dying they'll be having a MBA meeting to iron it out.

In regards to ZH I've recently caught them changing the words in a government document that they quoted. They were intentionally changing words. The only reason I caught it is because of my bullshit meter and being able to track down the original. They have no shame. I have such little respect for ZH but they have their moments too. They often present sometihng that is true and counter to the msm which has its place.

I read half the article to see what it was about. It could be a cover-up but it could also be ongoing data that has literally become noise due to weirdos fake reporting data or just being weird. It is likely some mixture of both.

But with all the weirdos I could definitely see Redietz clicking on that app every night before bed, for example.

[jdog]

There really is no pure US control group because Pfizer scuttled 90% of it. The alleged control group all received "vaccine" shortly after the initial testing.

What galls me is the current bundling of Covid-19 boosters with regular flu shots for everybody in the US over six. Only in the US, far as I know at this point. Nobody else is buying the blanket recommendation that Pfizer is selling. The rest of the world will soon be its own kind of control group for boosters.

As much as it pains me to say this, red is right lol.

The trials were a complete joke. I could write an essay about all things wrong with them.

Yep, the plan was to get mass acceptance of mRNA drugs. My theory is they had a lot of money invested in it already and Covid gave them an ideal opportunity to slide past the FDA. Because you can't really sell many pharmaceuticals to healthy people. They were hoping to get everyone to want an mRNA multi booster several times a year.

The lack of safety reports is definitely concerning. What bothers me even more is how it is tied into pharma profits. It actually bothers me less to know government officials covered something up than big corporate. Big corporate barely cares if we live. Indeed - if they can make $$ on us dying they'll be having a MBA meeting to iron it out.

Absolutely. And when I opened myself up to the idea that big pharma owns our mainstream media the pure business model started making perfect sense. I mean why the hell would we even consider giving this stuff to children?? Their risk from being harmed by the vax statistically far outweighs what Covid might do to them. To keep them from spreading it to vaxxed adults?? huh... isn't a vax supposed to protect you?? WTF. We knew from the beginning that this disease was dangerous mainly to the elderly and obese. But that fact was almost categorically ignored, and I think it's simply because big pharma wanted to sell their vax to everyone, so they had the media spread the fear far and wide.

[jdog]

In regards to ZH I've recently caught them changing the words in a government document that they quoted. They were intentionally changing words. The only reason I caught it is because of my bullshit meter and being able to track down the original. They have no shame. I have such little respect for ZH but they have their moments too. They often present sometihng that is true and counter to the msm which has its place.

As I said there is NO unbiased media. And I also already told you the CDC did actually shut down V-safe. Now for what reason in hell would anyone want to stop collecting safety data?

[redietz]

In regards to ZH I've recently caught them changing the words in a government document that they quoted. They were intentionally changing words. The only reason I caught it is because of my bullshit meter and being able to track down the original. They have no shame. I have such little respect for ZH but they have their moments too. They often present sometihng that is true and counter to the msm which has its place.

As I said there is NO unbiased media. And I also already told you the CDC did actually shut down V-safe. Now for what reason in hell would anyone want to stop collecting safety data?

The problem, in a nutshell, can be seen if you simply check what percent of ad revenue for each news channel (MSNBC, CNN, Fox) comes from pharmaceutical companies. That's the big, obvious tell. Here's a quick piece PRE-Covid. It's gotten much, much worse. Look up the POST-Covid info yourself.

https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/here...t-advertisers/

The US and I believe New Zealand are the only countries allowing pharma ads on television to these degrees. Do you remember MSNBC's Rachel Maddow declaring multiple times on live TV that if you had gotten the Covid mRNA shot you couldn't spread the virus? Holy mother of declarations. You can't say stuff like that. Even something like the rubella and smallpox shots don't have guaranteed blanket effects (they have mid-90-percent effects, I think). The major news media has been, as they say, "captured" by an industry. As have the regulators, who receive more than half their working funding via fees from the industries they "regulate," which is radically different from even 30 years ago, when the federal government provided the vast bulk of the funding.

Perfect storm for a mess and a boatload of propaganda.

Here's a quick POST-Covid update. The percent figures are frightening:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...v-ad-spend-us/

[jdog]

You need an account to see those stats, can you please post screenshots red?

[accountinquestion]

In regards to ZH I've recently caught them changing the words in a government document that they quoted. They were intentionally changing words. The only reason I caught it is because of my bullshit meter and being able to track down the original. They have no shame. I have such little respect for ZH but they have their moments too. They often present sometihng that is true and counter to the msm which has its place.

As I said there is NO unbiased media. And I also already told you the CDC did actually shut down V-safe. Now for what reason in hell would anyone want to stop collecting safety data?

Sure media is all biased but that doesn't mean they all literally change around the words of documents to make a story. ZH has no shame. One shouldn't need to have to track down whether their basic facts are correct. Spin your bias through actual facts and quotes. It goes beyond being biased.

Just because you are collecting data doesn't mean it is valid data. I was messing with Redietz but I did try to suggest the various ways the data might be quite flawed. I can think of multiple large biases on taking data via self-reported internet forms over a HIGHLY POLITICIZED subject. There is also overhead.

You guys laugh but I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't a Russian guy tasked with using VPNs and reporting fake info.

Basically I'm really skeptical of that data having value as time goes on but I don't know the details of how it was verified..

I would like to see data too but I want real data and not (anonymous) internet submitted data. It could be a cover-up but maybe not.Everyone wants to believe there is some big conspiracy and often there isn't.

[accountinquestion]

In regards to ZH I've recently caught them changing the words in a government document that they quoted. They were intentionally changing words. The only reason I caught it is because of my bullshit meter and being able to track down the original. They have no shame. I have such little respect for ZH but they have their moments too. They often present sometihng that is true and counter to the msm which has its place.

As I said there is NO unbiased media. And I also already told you the CDC did actually shut down V-safe. Now for what reason in hell would anyone want to stop collecting safety data?

The problem, in a nutshell, can be seen if you simply check what percent of ad revenue for each news channel (MSNBC, CNN, Fox) comes from pharmaceutical companies. That's the big, obvious tell. Here's a quick piece PRE-Covid. It's gotten much, much worse. Look up the POST-Covid info yourself.

https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/here...t-advertisers/

The US and I believe New Zealand are the only countries allowing pharma ads on television to these degrees. Do you remember MSNBC's Rachel Maddow declaring multiple times on live TV that if you had gotten the Covid mRNA shot you couldn't spread the virus? Holy mother of declarations. You can't say stuff like that. Even something like the rubella and smallpox shots don't have guaranteed blanket effects (they have mid-90-percent effects, I think). The major news media has been, as they say, "captured" by an industry. As have the regulators, who receive more than half their working funding via fees from the industries they "regulate," which is radically different from even 30 years ago, when the federal government provided the vast bulk of the funding.

Perfect storm for a mess and a boatload of propaganda.

Here's a quick POST-Covid update. The percent figures are frightening:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...v-ad-spend-us/

Not really directing this at Redietz.. just my random thoughts.

Russia has Oligarches and Putin.
China has the CCP.
We have our super wealthy elites who buy any and everything.

Each one of the above is the source of corruption in their respective countries. We've been told capitalism is some great thing. Just let it be and the world automagically improves for everyone. This is just another extension of that. You guys who love Trump - he loves the rich more than anyone and he shows it in action. But yea, he's there for you

I do think there is still a lot of people who just wanted to do what was best. They're not really convinced of the dangers. Rachel isn't pimped out by big pharma, she just doesn't want to see scare-mongering and likely believed what she said at the time.

[jdog]

Just because you are collecting data doesn't mean it is valid data.

Well of course, so that's why you have to look at as many different datasets as possible. But when you start to be able to draw similar conclusions from multiple sources you know you're starting to get to the truth. Honestly man I don't want to even get into how much data I've seen, and wouldn't be able to remember all the sources, but you'll have to trust me that very little of it is from a site like zerohedge.

Do you know what VAERS is? It has been around a long time and it collects adverse events data from all vaccines. It is voluntarily contributed to by healthcare professionals. Because it is voluntarily, it is unilaterally accepted that the number of events in it are significantly under-reported. Now to what extent seems highly debatable. Anyway, experts above my pay grade stated the number of Covid vax events reported to VAERS were more than enough to warrant pulling a vaccine under normal circumstances... even very shortly after people started getting the shots. Yeah there's a cover up all right.

[jdog]

You guys who love Trump - he loves the rich more than anyone and he shows it in action. But yea, he's there for you

I do find it pretty funny how people seem to miss that.

I do think there is still a lot of people who just wanted to do what was best.

I think this is true. But the problem is when you don't have good information to go on, you end up just wandering around in the dark banging your head into walls. The narrative was beat into us from all directions, so of course people made some bad decisions.

The German people were told over and over that the Jews (and other groups) were the root of their problems... they used fear and mass censorship to accomplish this and we all know how that turned out.

[mickeycrimm]

I couldn't only get through half of it trying to understand where the disagreement is. He's totally right, people don't give a shit, no one wants to make the sacrifices so we're fucked. Thats the thing about the US - we fix our energy production yet export it to poor countries that will lead to other country's being carbon heavy.

Is there something else to it but glad to see you coming around and listening to me. If you want to have me listen to the 2nd half you need to explain why or pay me.

edit - Also, climate change has been a known thing for many decades and was first theorized over 100 years ago. His talk about "woke" is nonsense for all the basic simps who look for their info from youtube. Something you and redietz share in common surprisingly. But hey, he gets political points.

BTW I've seen this video before many years ago... but yea.. he basically supports me.

Thanks.

I'm not coming around to your victim mentality. I Didn't put the video up for your benefit. Other people read this thread. Don't give a fuck what a fanatic believes. Convince yourself of anything you want but I don't give a fuck what you believe and won't take one second out of my day to try to convince a fanatic of anything. If you are to stupid to finish watching it then, well, you can't fix stupid.

PS Kisin's oxford speech isn't years old.

I'm a fanatic because why?

Is it a fanatic to insist you'll lose all your money pushing the button on a slot machine? It is the same way with our behavior. Not much changing, temperature will keep going up up up. That means we'll lose.

"victim mentality". Wow you're getting desperate. Thats some dumb shit and I'm not going to get into it. You just don't know what to say so you're slingin random shit.

I watched enough to see we're in agreement. He sounds really impressive the way he goes on passionately. All these totally wrong fucks really get behind that.

It jumped from 'climate change is bullshit' to 'we're too late to do anything'.

It is 1.5 years old, round that up to 2. Who cares. You don't, right?

Never seen you so wound up until I pointed out the guy more or less agreed with me. I don't recall if he says we should not do anything or if we do something it won't matter. I am more of the latter but whatever.

I've watched your videos before. You love the clickbait titles of the random loon standing up for being wrong.

I'm not pissed. I don't get pissed at pathetic TDS nut jobs projecting off themselves. Libtard.

[redietz]

Just because you are collecting data doesn't mean it is valid data.

Well of course, so that's why you have to look at as many different datasets as possible. But when you start to be able to draw similar conclusions from multiple sources you know you're starting to get to the truth. Honestly man I don't want to even get into how much data I've seen, and wouldn't be able to remember all the sources, but you'll have to trust me that very little of it is from a site like zerohedge.

Do you know what VAERS is? It has been around a long time and it collects adverse events data from all vaccines. It is voluntarily contributed to by healthcare professionals. Because it is voluntarily, it is unilaterally accepted that the number of events in it are significantly under-reported. Now to what extent seems highly debatable. Anyway, experts above my pay grade stated the number of Covid vax events reported to VAERS were more than enough to warrant pulling a vaccine under normal circumstances... even very shortly after people started getting the shots. Yeah there's a cover up all right.

When VAERS first came out, it was as biased for underreporting of issues as you can imagine. Have you read the actual questionnaires? I have -- most general practitioners would have a tough time filling them out. What a pain in the ass, and it's asking you stuff with which you have no expertise (one of my themes in gambling, by the way). Most civilian patients would have one helluva time answering all this stuff.

I was stunned that the reporting on these became so prevalent that problems became evident. The way the process is stacked against reporting, it's really something that the results reached what they have.