Recent interview with Eliot Jacobson

[redietz]

You guys who love Trump - he loves the rich more than anyone and he shows it in action. But yea, he's there for you

I do find it pretty funny how people seem to miss that.

I do think there is still a lot of people who just wanted to do what was best.

I think this is true. But the problem is when you don't have good information to go on, you end up just wandering around in the dark banging your head into walls. The narrative was beat into us from all directions, so of course people made some bad decisions.

The German people were told over and over that the Jews (and other groups) were the root of their problems... they used fear and mass censorship to accomplish this and we all know how that turned out.

I gotta wrap up my "Biden-Pocalypse Part Two" right now. I think I have a healthy enough cynicism regarding Trump that most of my points are valid. I'll post the piece by midnight, so check it out.

[jdog]

Have you read the actual questionnaires?

Yes I read a bunch of them. The information reported is very inconsistent. No question we need something much better than this. Eh, but the manufacturers of vaccines are off the hook anyway in terms of liability... anyone think that could maybe be a problem??

I remember reading some entries where the person didn't even make it to the parking lot after the shot. Ambulance came and picked them up and they were dead shortly after.

[accountinquestion]

Just because you are collecting data doesn't mean it is valid data.

Well of course, so that's why you have to look at as many different datasets as possible. But when you start to be able to draw similar conclusions from multiple sources you know you're starting to get to the truth. Honestly man I don't want to even get into how much data I've seen, and wouldn't be able to remember all the sources, but you'll have to trust me that very little of it is from a site like zerohedge.

Do you know what VAERS is? It has been around a long time and it collects adverse events data from all vaccines. It is voluntarily contributed to by healthcare professionals. Because it is voluntarily, it is unilaterally accepted that the number of events in it are significantly under-reported. Now to what extent seems highly debatable. Anyway, experts above my pay grade stated the number of Covid vax events reported to VAERS were more than enough to warrant pulling a vaccine under normal circumstances... even very shortly after people started getting the shots. Yeah there's a cover up all right.

I wasn't suggesting you read a lot of ZH. I know some guys who do and you point this shit out to them and it is just mumble excuses. That site is a personal peeve of mine but it is a shame because their view is often very needed. The signing everything as Durden doesn't help. So many smoke and mirrors in that journalism.

No, for some reason I assumed VAERS was created to report the side effects of this vaccine reported by the public. The fact that it has been around for some time and doctors submitted the reports takes a way a lot of the valid reasons I came up with to stop tracking the data. The only reason I can come up with to the excuse it would be the cost involved to run the program.

I find this to be the most compelling thing I've heard. I will need to look into it more for what reasons were given and by whom. I accept there were side-effects widely underestimated. I haven't accepted some conspiracy.

Pray we don't have something similar start up again...

[redietz]

Have you read the actual questionnaires?

Yes I read a bunch of them. The information reported is very inconsistent. No question we need something much better than this. Eh, but the manufacturers of vaccines are off the hook anyway in terms of liability... anyone think that could maybe be a problem??

I remember reading some entries where the person didn't even make it to the parking lot after the shot. Ambulance came and picked them up and they were dead shortly after.

Good for you! I don't personally know a soul who has read these questionnaires. People who have had the shots are not motivated to even look at them, so it's hard to discuss.

Here's the latest paean to the Trumpster and the DDD (Democratic Debate Debacle). Needed to hammer it out and post in case things change in the morning.

Have a good evening.

https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...-7-trumps.html

[jdog]

No I'm quite the nerd when I want to learn something. Especially when the lockdowns came and kept me out of the casinos lol. I actually even did some of my own projections using an online epidemic calculator. I found all of it quite fascinating. Once I was absolutely sure the media narrative's 2% mortality figure was nonsense, I wanted to see if I could figure out what it really might be. Then in late 2020 Jay Bhattacharya and an epidemiologist released a paper stating actual mortality was probably closer to .2% but not more than .3%, and this was when we only had a couple predominant strains. Now years later after many, many different Covid variants the mortality in the US is still only .36%. The dude was spot on... back then my uncle called him a kook.

One of the biggest problems I've come across with talking to people about this is most people want to believe very much that human beings can control everything. It is terrifying for them to consider otherwise. And they will ignore or dismiss any information to maintain this belief. I for one cannot allow myself to be self-diluted. Trying to get to the truth is far more interesting. Throughout the pandemic I even had to pivot on a couple issues because the data started pointing another direction, my vaccine stance was one of them. Prior to 2021 I was never even slightly adverse to vaccines, let alone an anti-vaxxer.

But after a couple years and seeing my friends get harmed it changed to a more personal thing. Once it became apparent this was all about big pharma making a buck, even if it meant hurting or killing children, I knew I had to stop looking into it. Because it was a near daily thing often for hours: studying data, reading articles, watching videos from experts in their fields and trying to understand medical jargon. But once I caught that Pfizer commercial using kids in it, where they were literally marketing their garbage directly to children using children. I was disgusted. I had gone as far down the rabbit hole as I wanted to go, couldn't even finish watching the ad. Told the guys in my group to stop sending me stuff, I was over it. I had already done all I could to inform my friends and family, my conscience was clear and people were going to have to make their own decisions.

[jdog]

I wasn't suggesting you read a lot of ZH. I know some guys who do and you point this shit out to them and it is just mumble excuses.

Yes the far right stuff can get tiresome, but you just accept the bias and glean from it what you can.

Personally I think the conspiracy sites are the nuttiest. They believe the vaccines are all about population control and almost completely ignore the business model. The part I don't get is if everyone is dead, then who is going to perform the labor required to help all these elites maintain their wealth?? But despite all this they do get some of the vax stuff right.

[mickeycrimm]

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[redietz]

It's just dumb luck that I wasn't Covid-vaccinated. I was scheduled for, I think Asta-Zeneca, then it got pulled for about 10 days when there were clotting concerns. I was scheduled for the week it was paused. So I then scheduled Pfizer. But then a couple of days before my appointment, two women in Nashville had serious immediate auto-immune responses. They basically had some kind of super-fast ALS/MS responses. Since my family has a bad history with auto-immune (my mom, aunt, and uncle all died of MS after a decade as quadriplegics), I figured, hmmmm, maybe this is a bad vaccine batch, which are geographic. So I better cancel, wait, and sort this out. I did discover that different batches had different problems, but after a couple of weeks of doing the research, I decided to put off getting the mRNA as long as I possibly could.

This is all classic cognitive dissonance and attitude-research stuff. You have a population that has, there is no other way to put it, self-poisoned, and if they were dealing with the third incarnation of Covid on, there was very little upside to the self-poisoning. As I like to say regarding sports betting, my only commitment is to non-commitment. I had little problem going from 1970's moon-landing, trust-in-American-science to "this is a corrupt mess." I'm wrong all the time. My scheduling Covid vaccines before knowing what the hell mRNA shots were is just another example of my not knowing much about something. I don't appreciate having this crap imposed on me now that I have some perspective.

[redietz]

Russell Brand nails much of the mRNA shot issues, and the media's complicity, with this YouTube outtake from his Rumble show:

[accountinquestion]

https://www.fox5vegas.com/2024/07/07...st-day-record/

120 degrees in lv. New record. 3 fuckimg degrees.

The fanatic micky scurrying through the lv youtubes looking for his next video to disprove the obvious.

[mickeycrimm]

https://www.fox5vegas.com/2024/07/07...st-day-record/

120 degrees in lv. New record. 3 fuckimg degrees.

The fanatic micky scurrying through the lv youtubes looking for his next video to disprove the obvious.

Where I’m at today it will be 94 degrees. At this location the record high temp for this day was 114 degrees in 1955. Global cooling?

[Rob.Singer]

https://www.fox5vegas.com/2024/07/07...st-day-record/

120 degrees in lv. New record. 3 fuckimg degrees.

The fanatic micky scurrying through the lv youtubes looking for his next video to disprove the obvious.

Just turn the AC down a few degrees and stop worrying about it.....if you can afford it. It's run by electricity and not by those ever-dangerous & dastardly fossil fuels. Joe B. Will love you for it.

[accountinquestion]

https://www.fox5vegas.com/2024/07/07...st-day-record/

120 degrees in lv. New record. 3 fuckimg degrees.

The fanatic micky scurrying through the lv youtubes looking for his next video to disprove the obvious.

Where I’m at today it will be 94 degrees. At this location the record high temp for this day was 114 degrees in 1955. Global cooling?

The weirdest thing is how you have no appreciation for the 3 degree difference yet intuitively understand #s.

Go back to YouTube. The one with the moving pictures you like so much.

Oh yea and lil genius don't forget to vote for Trump.

[Half Smoke]

https://www.fox5vegas.com/2024/07/07...st-day-record/

120 degrees in lv. New record. 3 fuckimg degrees.

The fanatic micky scurrying through the lv youtubes looking for his next video to disprove the obvious.

Where I’m at today it will be 94 degrees. At this location the record high temp for this day was 114 degrees in 1955. Global cooling?

yeah, but what he told you was a record

what you told him was not a record

here you go - more grist for the mill -

the chart from EPA (linked) shows the increasing number of record high days and the decreasing number of record low days thru the recent decades - most significant is the extreme increase in record hot days and extreme decrease in record low days in the 2000s

looks like about 50 record highs and 50 record lows in the 1950s

and about 65 record highs and about 35 record lows in the 2000s

the chart doesn't show the 2010s but the other link - AP news - states the 2010s were the hottest decade ever recorded per measurement from NASA at the Goddard Institute for Space Studies

enjoy





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https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicato...w-temperatures

https://apnews.com/article/fires-us-...aa4405b2cbcf04


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[Half Smoke]

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too late to edit -

the above post - the chart - is showing the % of record high days vs. the % of record low days - not the raw number - my bad

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[Rob.Singer]

In the last 100 years the avg. temp on the "surface" of the sun has been setting all sorts of records.

Better tell the inhabitants there to ease up on the fossil fuel burning--due to man-made climate change.

[jdog]

Russell Brand nails much of the mRNA shot issues, and the media's complicity, with this YouTube outtake from his Rumble show:

Great stuff! There's been so much coming to light in the last year... and more and more lawsuits forthcoming no doubt.

Very early on it was apparent something was up with the media. I would read a mainstream headline and then I'd go to the data to try to corroborate it. Technically the way they worded what they said was correct, but when you looked the data as a whole, it told a different story and actually the headline/story basis was pure sensational BS. But I've worked for the media in the past, and they know scaring people gets you ratings so you could chalk it up to that.

But it kept happening over and over and then you starting seeing "stories" that were obviously nothing more than pharmaceutical promos for the coming vax and new Covid drugs. The narrative never really changed, as early as Mar 2020 they were talking about a vaccine we could develop quickly and it would save us. But by the time the vaccine became widely available the numbers we're dropping fast, and most people had likely already been exposed to more than one variant, so it was questionable that anyone really needed to try an experimental vax. This is when the propaganda/censorship machine went into overdrive.

Because the media had terrified them, a big challenge I found in later 2020 and 2021 was getting people to understand that they had likely already been exposed. Most people don't even get symptoms and coronaviruses are highly contagious. Fauci and many other experts of course had to know this. There were a bunch of antibodies studies done in 2020 and exposure rates at ground zero in Italy were like 80%. By 2021 they absolutely knew the mortality was much lower and that most already had some kind of natural immunity. Still with all this the narrative never changed. Any US healthcare professionals or experts in their fields that came forward were immediately censored for spreading misinformation. But then Omicron blew up and starting putting a lot of unvaxxed people back in the hospitals so this seemed to solidify that the vaccine was our savior. I think big pharma always knew they could keep people a lot of people out of the hospitals with Covid, the problem is they completely dismissed the side effects.

But yeah Brand is right, Fauci is absolutely lying about them thinking the virus was spread in droplets, we knew it was aerosolized pretty much right from the beginning. I saw room transmission studies in early summer 2020. There were cracks in the lockdown narrative almost immediately but it never changed, no matter how much data to the contrary came out.

[mickeycrimm]

https://www.fox5vegas.com/2024/07/07...st-day-record/

120 degrees in lv. New record. 3 fuckimg degrees.

The fanatic micky scurrying through the lv youtubes looking for his next video to disprove the obvious.

Where I’m at today it will be 94 degrees. At this location the record high temp for this day was 114 degrees in 1955. Global cooling?

The weirdest thing is how you have no appreciation for the 3 degree difference yet intuitively understand #s.

Go back to YouTube. The one with the moving pictures you like so much.

Oh yea and lil genius don't forget to vote for Trump.

The left is fascist. Trump is the way way way way way lessor evil.

You think you really hate Trump? You don't hate him near as much as the woke are hated.

[redietz]

Russell Brand nails much of the mRNA shot issues, and the media's complicity, with this YouTube outtake from his Rumble show:

Great stuff! There's been so much coming to light in the last year... and more and more lawsuits forthcoming no doubt.

Very early on it was apparent something was up with the media. I would read a mainstream headline and then I'd go to the data to try to corroborate it. Technically the way they worded what they said was correct, but when you looked the data as a whole, it told a different story and actually the headline/story basis was pure sensational BS. But I've worked for the media in the past, and they know scaring people gets you ratings so you could chalk it up to that.

But it kept happening over and over and then you starting seeing "stories" that were obviously nothing more than pharmaceutical promos for the coming vax and new Covid drugs. The narrative never really changed, as early as Mar 2020 they were talking about a vaccine we could develop quickly and it would save us. But by the time the vaccine became widely available the numbers we're dropping fast, and most people had likely already been exposed to more than one variant, so it was questionable that anyone really needed to try an experimental vax. This is when the propaganda/censorship machine went into overdrive.

Because the media had terrified them, a big challenge I found in later 2020 and 2021 was getting people to understand that they had likely already been exposed. Most people don't even get symptoms and coronaviruses are highly contagious. Fauci and many other experts of course had to know this. There were a bunch of antibodies studies done in 2020 and exposure rates at ground zero in Italy were like 80%. By 2021 they absolutely knew the mortality was much lower and that most already had some kind of natural immunity. Still with all this the narrative never changed. Any US healthcare professionals or experts in their fields that came forward were immediately censored for spreading misinformation. But then Omicron blew up and starting putting a lot of unvaxxed people back in the hospitals so this seemed to solidify that the vaccine was our savior. I think big pharma always knew they could keep people a lot of people out of the hospitals with Covid, the problem is they completely dismissed the side effects.

But yeah Brand is right, Fauci is absolutely lying about them thinking the virus was spread in droplets, we knew it was aerosolized pretty much right from the beginning. I saw room transmission studies in early summer 2020. There were cracks in the lockdown narrative almost immediately but it never changed, no matter how much data to the contrary came out.

Jdog, here's a nice brief summary of the data you posted previously. This guy started out pro-Covid-shot and became quickly and increasingly horrified as everything unfolded. He has done his best to be educational without being shrill and without getting tagged by YouTube too often. I think his channel was censored and pulled a couple of times in the early going. He has done some nice interviews. His doctorate is in nursing, and he has written a widely-used nursing textbook.

I wanted to touch on something you mentioned above. I was fully aware that many, maybe half, of the people getting the third incarnation of the virus forward were displaying no real symptoms but were infectious. That was not really a secret. But I notice when MSNBC conducts interviews now, and Fauci especially uses it as some kind of backward-facing excuse, they say that "we didn't know such a large proportion of people had no symptoms." I was paying attention at the time, and it was evident pretty quickly that minimal symptoms while spreading the disease was the reality early on. Media is allowing what amounts to lying about the awareness of the "no-symptom but spreader" nature of many, maybe half, of the infected. It was no big secret. It was evident.

[jdog]

The left is fascist. Trump is the way way way way way lessor evil.

I more or less agree with this. But it's obvious Trump really only cares about being in the spotlight more than anything else. He is a master of working the systems- faking it until you make it, getting out of paying taxes and using bankruptcies because he can't run a business. However he does have a few decent ideas and I think he tried to make good on his campaign promises more than most presidents. But the belief that he actually cares about the middle class is not very plausible.

But if I have to choose between him and that fool Biden, I'm going Trump. Biden said possibly the stupidest thing a sitting president ever said (and that's saying something) when he said "we need to protect the vaccinated from the unvaccinated". That idiot was willing to practically start a civil war in order to politicize the vaccine issue to his benefit. F*** that guy.

The problem with Trump is he is a narcissist that loves disrespecting people but a president must be able to collaborate with others in order to get things done, not his strong suit to say the least. Ironic that his 'don't give a F***' attitude is what people love about him but it's also his biggest detriment.