Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
Originally Posted by Half Smoke View Post
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Originally Posted by Kim Lee View Post
I faded Stanford Wong's dice action, and would do it again.

per the link Wong has backed off his claim that craps can be beaten with dice influencing -

but I don't see how Kim Lee's fading of Wong's dice action would be advantageous - the HE is still there - maybe he just did it for fun - that would be my guess

"And finally, in April 2011, in a tacit admission that he had been wrong in believing casino craps could be legitimately beaten, Wong removed craps from the list of “Beatable Casino Games” on his popular BJ21.com website, and also removed the “Craps” discussion page from his site, as well. In addition, a few months later, in October 2011, in an interview on Bob Dancer’s popular KLAV radio program, “Gambling With an Edge,” Wong admitted that for players “who want to get serious about making money in casinos, craps is not the game to play.” That pretty much says it all."


https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/gamb...lKZDMXMJRCnon3

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But Alan M. always said DI was a legitimate method of profiting from gambling. And he's witnessed it as well as having had some success with it. An actual player!

Doesn't that supercede anything a guy like Wong comes up with, who won't lift a finger, print a word, or say a thing unless it benefits him commercially?
I don't consider Alan (r.i.p.) to have been an expert on gambling - I guess he was just speaking about his observations - observations are not proofs

in America, everything, even trivial things, are studied to death

so, in thinking about it - I would have to believe that if dice influencing were possible it would have been proven somehow and somewhere with thousands of rolls

academics love this kind of thing

and guess what - I found an academic study - see link

these PhDs built a machine they called "Lucky Lil" and calibrated it to throw the dice in a way that they believed might produce non random results

they tested both short rolls that did not hit the back wall and legal rolls that did hit the back wall

but alas - "Lucky Lil" failed to produce any results that were significantly different than random results

the is I believe because the action of the dice becomes chaotic once it hits the table and then even more so when it hits the back wall with the pyramids


https://digitalscholarship.unlv.edu/...5&context=grrj


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