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[coach belly]

If there were no randomness in the game you would know the exact score before the game starts. Repeat. The exact score. Not something close. The exact score.

I disagree.

The outcomes of individual occurrences within a sports contest are not random.

Fumbles and interceptions are a function of skill, not randomness.

The non-random qualities of the participants...skill, strategy and choices inherent in the game...determines the outcome.

That is why the exact score is not known before the game starts.

Players cannot impose their will upon cards, wheels and reels.

The outcomes of random casino events are mathematically convergent, so those games are solvable.

[coach belly]

Even coin flipping is based on the randomness of the motion in flipping the coin. Anyone who says throwing a football is that different probably doesn't understand things as well.

LOL...you might as well make a case for dice influencing.

There is no motion in a fair coin flip that influences the random outcome of the event.

Random means occurring by chance, done without any definite plan, purpose, or pattern.

A football throw is not random.

[mickeycrimm]

If there were no randomness in the game you would know the exact score before the game starts. Repeat. The exact score. Not something close. The exact score.

I disagree.

The outcomes of individual occurrences within a sports contest are not random.

Fumbles and interceptions are a function of skill, not randomness.

The non-random qualities of the participants...skill, strategy and choices inherent in the game...determines the outcome.

That is why the exact score is not known before the game starts.

Players cannot impose their will upon cards, wheels and reels.

The outcomes of random casino events are mathematically convergent, so those games are solvable.

Why do half the totals go over and half go under?

[Garnabby]

Nothing is completely random outside of mathematical constructs.

The anagrams with gematria are perfectly random, when the words with meaning don't reappear in the first and/or last solution(s). The reason that

Holy fuck, man. How long did it take to type all of this? Show your readers (and yourself) a little respect.

Oh, I suck at typing. I probably use four hovering fingers in a hunting Peck manner, I don't know, I haven't really paid attention.

Garnabby is the Mark Sanchez of VCT.

Perfecting madness, one step at a time. Ha.


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[coach belly]

Do you believe you(or someome) can confidently calculate their approximate EV on betting the yes?

No, because their confidence will be mitigated by the possibility that the "no" bettors have more information than past results.

[kewlJ]

Even coin flipping is based on the randomness of the motion in flipping the coin. Nothing is completely random outside of mathematical constructs. This doesn't mean the word random loses utility in gambling.

Anyone who says throwing a football is that different probably doesn't understand things as well.

These comments are of a person thinking short-term, small sample size. The concept of EV is based on long-term or large sample size. Also known as the law of large numbers.

[coach belly]

Why do half the totals go over and half go under?

Because sportsbooks have been highly effective at setting lines that accurately predict total scoring.

[AxelWolf]

Why do half the totals go over and half go under?

Because sportsbooks have been highly effective at setting lines that accurately predict total scoring.

And this would make it approach being random; therefore, you can now calculate your approximate EV based on whatever information you have.

[AxelWolf]

Do you believe you(or someome) can confidently calculate their approximate EV on betting the yes?

No, because their confidence will be mitigated by the possibility that the "no" bettors have more information than past results.

Do you believe there would be an advantage to be had betting the yes over and over in this same situation?

[accountinquestion]

Even coin flipping is based on the randomness of the motion in flipping the coin. Anyone who says throwing a football is that different probably doesn't understand things as well.

LOL...you might as well make a case for dice influencing.

There is no motion in a fair coin flip that influences the random outcome of the event.

Random means occurring by chance, done without any definite plan, purpose, or pattern.

A football throw is not random.

I'll respond to clear up your misunderstanding you babbling old fool.

I am not saying a person can manipulate a coin flip. I am saying the coin flip is dependent upon the flipper's flip. Just like throwing the football is dependent on the thrower. In theory it is likely a person could engineer a coin-flipper that would not be 50/50 on an otherwise unbiased coin using the repeatability of a mechanical device. Same thing with a football. Just to different degrees. Sorry this goes over your head.

I was just taking your argument to its logical conclusion. I also think dice are random and dependent on the thrower, yes.

I've lost at life for the day responding to you, loser. Claim your victory.

[coach belly]

this would make it approach being random.

It's not clear to me what you mean by "it". Would make what approach being random?

[coach belly]

Do you believe there would be an advantage to be had betting the yes over and over in this same situation?

Are you asking if a yes bet is +EV?

[kewlJ]

I've lost at life for the day responding to you, loser. Claim your victory.

Welcome to the club. Every time any of us answer one of these trolls/haters/anti-APers, we have lost. These clowns are bat-shit crazy.

[MDawg]

That's not your only lie.

More importantly, you take questioning of these lies very personally, and actually get angry at anyone who dares suggest that you aren't being truthful. You get extremely upset by people not believing you.

[kewlJ]

Yet another bat-shit crazy asshole, nothing-but-a-troll heard from.

[coach belly]

I was just taking your argument to its logical conclusion.

Theorizing about mechanical devices to flip coins or throw passes is not relevant in a logical discussion about whether the results of football games are random.

[accountinquestion]

The clown doesn't know what analogies are apparently.

Like I said - it goes over his head. His whole point on these forums is to try and make people as miserable as himself by being as insufferable as possible.

You lose when you respond to him. Everyone does. lol

A few people never have a redeeming moment on this forum ...

[AxelWolf]

this would make it approach being random.

It's not clear to me what you mean by "it". Would make what approach being random?

Picking the over or under against the spread.

[AxelWolf]

Do you believe there would be an advantage to be had betting the yes over and over in this same situation?

Are you asking if a yes bet is +EV?

Yes, in the situation I described, do you believe that if one were to bet the yes, that he would have an advantage/+EV?

[MDawg]

UNKewlJ, you would have to be THE nastiest piece of work on this forum.

You constantly backpedal, you constantly troll, you are constantly long-windedly posting dross about the same UNVERIFIED gaming YOU accuse others of here on this forum.