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  1. #341
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post

    I didn't lose.

    Again you missed the point: I get SS because I worked at a high level for 15 years. Its pocket change now, same as for my wife. Are you weary of pensions too? I get 2 of those--one from working in the private sector and one from the Fed. Gov't. More pocket change. The real dough is in our retirement accounts. I'd show them to you but you'd have no choice but to say "they're FAKE!"
    I really give 0 shits about your accounts but just found it funny that you'd brag about receiving SS.

    but .. I don't think you get it. It isn't that the money doesn't matter, or that you worked a lot or whatever, it is that you actually bother to brag about it. It doesn't register to you. I find that LOL. "I'm so rich I receive SS" sorta mentality sounds about right. I've topped out my SS tax last several years but who care? Seriously.
    Now you're beginning to get it! I bloviate about my background, family, and successes because I KNOW it gets under all kinds of skin here. It's similar to the number I did on kew today. He got so flustered over it that he came out with newer revised unflattering lies about my life, and he knows everyone knows that he has no idea about anything! He even bumped up my age by 10 years He'll probably toss and turn for the next 7 nights....

    By the way....there's no "coolness" about being this old. The only ones who think I'm "cool" are my 4 grandchildren, and that's because I take them shooting and occasionally hand them surprise spending money.
    Ok so you don't have the hl card like you claimed... <shrug> exactly what I thought.

    glad to hear oyu have a good relationship with your kids. The thing about you singer is you don't strike me as angry. Kinda sick and twisted .. but I could see you being a good grandfather. I don't believe much else outside you had a job and have SS/retirement ... but hey, I'm sure Kewl has some truths in there.

  2. #342
    I too suspect that Rob is a "nice guy" in real life.

    He's admitted he loves to troll the board and I view that admission as a point in his favor: he's having fun and makes no bones about it.

    Some of us come off as real assholes at times when we post (myself included) but it seems to me that is just our "false face," our internet personae which we adopt in order to have a bit of fun and find some temporary relief from the pressures of modern living.

    Sort of the same reason recreational gamblers flock to casinos to gamble, i.e. a stimulating mixture of fantasy and reality.
    What, Me Worry?

  3. #343
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    I too suspect that Rob is a "nice guy" in real life.

    He's admitted he loves to troll the board and I view that admission as a point in his favor: he's having fun and makes no bones about it.

    Some of us come off as real assholes at times when we post (myself included) but it seems to me that is just our "false face," our internet personae which we adopt in order to have a bit of fun and find some temporary relief from the pressures of modern living.

    Sort of the same reason recreational gamblers flock to casinos to gamble, i.e. a stimulating mixture of fantasy and reality.
    Rob is a weird mix of not taking himself seriously while also being really sickly after Kewl. Much like MDawg. Rob can roll with the punches pretty well. He's some version of 'one of the guys'. I'd be half willing to meet Singer in person due to this even with our history. But then I see this weirdness where he really really goes after Kewl .. Kewl is clearly a tormented soul, whatever is going on in his life.

    The fact is that almost all of these guys would be all chuckles and handshakes in person. Maybe not Coach Belly or jdaewoo. I wonder what Kewl would be like in person standing before us... weird thoughts.

  4. #344
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    I too suspect that Rob is a "nice guy" in real life.

    He's admitted he loves to troll the board and I view that admission as a point in his favor: he's having fun and makes no bones about it.

    Some of us come off as real assholes at times when we post (myself included) but it seems to me that is just our "false face," our internet personae which we adopt in order to have a bit of fun and find some temporary relief from the pressures of modern living.

    Sort of the same reason recreational gamblers flock to casinos to gamble, i.e. a stimulating mixture of fantasy and reality.
    Rob is a weird mix of not taking himself seriously while also being really sickly after Kewl. Much like MDawg. Rob can roll with the punches pretty well. He's some version of 'one of the guys'. I'd be half willing to meet Singer in person due to this even with our history. But then I see this weirdness where he really really goes after Kewl .. Kewl is clearly a tormented soul, whatever is going on in his life.

    The fact is that almost all of these guys would be all chuckles and handshakes in person. Maybe not Coach Belly or jdaewoo. I wonder what Kewl would be like in person standing before us... weird thoughts.
    I too have figured that most of the people on here with the exception of maybe one or two would probably get along just fine in person.

    And usually it’s the person or persons that you think is the biggest dick that you end up getting along great with face to face.

    Not that I’m recommending it

  5. #345
    I love it. So now these nasty people that say some of the nastiest, most vile things are really nice people in real life. Fun, Grandfatherly lovable types. They just happen to go off the deep end, when someone challenges ridiculous. claims they have made for decades.

    And isn't it funny, this pretending to be nasty group, is the same group of people that have told ridiculous gambling stories for decades. AND they are oddly enough the same people that if you look them up by their real name, you find all sorts of information that not only don't fit with their 'I won millions of dollars claim", but also doesn't fit for their "I'm really a nice guy' claim. And then really weird is some of these people like Singer and Redietz are actually posting their real information on an anonymous forum, knowing what people will find when they look them up.

    So every step of the way they aren't who they claim, from the millions won using hocus-pokus gambling techniques, to everything else about them. It is like they want to be found out just so they can fight with people. Redietz once said Singer and another guy on this forum who I won't mention where just fictional characters. I believe that. And I NOW believe Redietz is one too with all his little weird stories.

    But most of the APs on this forum are not fictional characters. For the most part they are people who are pretty much who we claim, doing what we claim, whether we meet and hang out with other APs or are more the solo type player, sticking to ourselves. Whatever we chose to share about what we do is real, the math works and it is also the way the casino industry works. Axelwolf, mickeycrimm, myself, even Zenking, which I am not sure why so many here don't like, jbjb back when he posted, (probably forgetting some) but everything these real players share is real and exactly how things work, including the math. There is NEVER any "how the fuck did you do that" when something defies the math, because the claims don't defy the math.

    There are other real APs on this forum that I didn't mention, because they don't share many claims. And that is fine too. But if a person shares some claim of winning, it should "work", mathematically and reality-wise. It shouldn't be some fantasy-fiction thing, that you immediately spot, like progression Systems and special plays and "betting into hot streaks" and casinos love me so no countermeasures for winning millions of dollars. These things are some kind of fantasy fiction. They don't belong here or on any gambling forum. They belong on a forum for fantasy fiction writers, which interestingly enough....at least one of these people came from.

    If I am the bad guy for calling out these bullshit stories, then so be it. I make my living gambling, and I just don't find this kind of complete fiction amusing.

    It is just really funny that the same 3 or 4 people who have claims that are complete bullshit, defying everything and the same 3 or 4 really nasty people and now some are saying "yeah but I am really a nice guy in real life".
    Last edited by kewlJ; 01-08-2026 at 09:18 PM.
    Expected Value is NOT an opinion.

  6. #346
    And for those that think they probably wouldn't get along with me in real life, you may not. I am younger than most here, and I take my gambling seriously, because It is what I do for a living. But I am also a pretty normal guy. I love sports, even when not betting on them. I love my family, which is small, my brother and mother, have a great group of friends including my BF that I love doing all sorts of fun things with. Even going into business with my BF next month. I am sarcastic and have a strange sense of humor which I know doesn't come across here.

    But the one thing I am serious about.... dead serious about is gambling because it is what I do for a living and for me there has been a lot of work involved in that. And I just don't like bullshit claims that cheapen what I and other real APs do. Just don't pretend to be what Rob Singer, and others pretend and we will get along fine. Just don't piss on my leg and tell me it is raining.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 01-08-2026 at 09:20 PM.
    Expected Value is NOT an opinion.

  7. #347
    I think that for some people posting online is escapism & for others it’s real life.

    I also think that something many of the people that think it’s escapism really enjoy doing is needling the ones that take it very seriously.

    I may be wrong though.

  8. #348
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post

    Some of us come off as real assholes at times when we post (myself included) but it seems to me that is just our "false face," our internet personae which we adopt in order to have a bit of fun and find some temporary relief from the pressures of modern living.
    MrV, I don't see where you do this? Are you trying to say you were NOT an attorney? Not comfortable financially and enjoying retirement? That you family doesn't own property in New England on the lake? If that is what you are now saying, I guess you pulled one past me, because I think that 99% of the time, what you post is exactly who you are, even down to your gambling. Nothing seems out of place or is miraculous. I think you are exactly who you portray on the internet.

    And that other 1%. Well I think you know what that is. There is someone on this forum (begins with a T or K)......well no need to say more.
    Expected Value is NOT an opinion.

  9. #349
    Maybe i do get too carried away with calling out the frauds. Probably do. But I just don't like what they do.

    To me there is very little difference between someone on this forum like a Rob Singer and all the scammers on youtube channels and such. Some will say the difference is money. Youtube scammer solicit money. Well, anybody that "buys" (believes) some of the crap that is pushed here for years, goes out and tries to emulate these ridiculous claims and loses money just as if they handed it over to the scammers. And there are some members even on this little forum that have done so. And even more so at a bigger forum like WoV. These people aren't going to post about how they tried to emulate and lost money. But they did.

    I just don't think it is wrong to shine a light on these little cockroaches.
    Expected Value is NOT an opinion.

  10. #350
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I love it. So now these nasty people that say some of the nastiest, most vile things are really nice people in real life. Fun, Grandfatherly lovable types. They just happen to go off the deep end, when someone challenges ridiculous. claims they have made for decades.

    And isn't it funny, this pretending to be nasty group, is the same group of people that have told ridiculous gambling stories for decades. AND they are oddly enough the same people that if you look them up by their real name, you find all sorts of information that not only don't fit with their 'I won millions of dollars claim", but also doesn't fit for their "I'm really a nice guy' claim. And then really weird is some of these people like Singer and Redietz are actually posting their real information on an anonymous forum, knowing what people will find when they look them up.

    So every step of the way they aren't who they claim, from the millions won using hocus-pokus gambling techniques, to everything else about them. It is like they want to be found out just so they can fight with people. Redietz once said Singer and another guy on this forum who I won't mention where just fictional characters. I believe that. And I NOW believe Redietz is one too with all his little weird stories.

    But most of the APs on this forum are not fictional characters. For the most part they are people who are pretty much who we claim, doing what we claim, whether we meet and hang out with other APs or are more the solo type player, sticking to ourselves. Whatever we chose to share about what we do is real, the math works and it is also the way the casino industry works. Axelwolf, mickeycrimm, myself, even Zenking, which I am not sure why so many here don't like, jbjb back when he posted, (probably forgetting some) but everything these real players share is real and exactly how things work, including the math. There is NEVER any "how the fuck did you do that" when something defies the math, because the claims don't defy the math.

    There are other real APs on this forum that I didn't mention, because they don't share many claims. And that is fine too. But if a person shares some claim of winning, it should "work", mathematically and reality-wise. It shouldn't be some fantasy-fiction thing, that you immediately spot, like progression Systems and special plays and "betting into hot streaks" and casinos love me so no countermeasures for winning millions of dollars. These things are some kind of fantasy fiction. They don't belong here or on any gambling forum. They belong on a forum for fantasy fiction writers, which interestingly enough....at least one of these people came from.

    If I am the bad guy for calling out these bullshit stories, then so be it. I make my living gambling, and I just don't find this kind of complete fiction amusing.

    It is just really funny that the same 3 or 4 people who have claims that are complete bullshit, defying everything and the same 3 or 4 really nasty people and now some are saying "yeah but I am really a nice guy in real life".
    Yea, pretty sure you're not a nice guy in real life. I'm fairly certain you wouldn't fit in either. The above just reinforces this belief.

    Being a nice guy - I'm not sure if that is your wording or not but I just meant relatively socially normal. Like a guy you could sit there with and LOL about it all. For you ? This is life and death. You'd be some nervous nancy trying to convince other "fellow APs" of something another. People would be rolling their eyes inside and tired of it. Trying to give you physical cues to tell you to stop yabberin' on about something where the "math works".

    How do you see it working out?

  11. #351
    Originally Posted by DGenBen View Post
    I think that for some people posting online is escapism & for others it’s real life.

    I also think that something many of the people that think it’s escapism really enjoy doing is needling the ones that take it very seriously.

    I may be wrong though.
    Definitely a lot of truth in this. There are some guys on here so looney they're one step from thinking the slender man told them to do it.

  12. #352
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Maybe i do get too carried away with calling out the frauds. Probably do. But I just don't like what they do.

    To me there is very little difference between someone on this forum like a Rob Singer and all the scammers on youtube channels and such. Some will say the difference is money. Youtube scammer solicit money. Well, anybody that "buys" (believes) some of the crap that is pushed here for years, goes out and tries to emulate these ridiculous claims and loses money just as if they handed it over to the scammers. And there are some members even on this little forum that have done so. And even more so at a bigger forum like WoV. These people aren't going to post about how they tried to emulate and lost money. But they did.

    I just don't think it is wrong to shine a light on these little cockroaches.
    You go after Redietz as hard as anything. Just as mean as anyone is to anyone else. And Redietz hasn't been shown to lie about anything really. He had some covid treatment confused at one point but I've been on here for many years now and I've yet to see that guy come across as an intentional liar. HE doesn't post picks to sell. He may stand on weird hills and defend them and start shit with sharp people on this forum but who or what is he hurting? He's never been shown to be trying to get investement money on this forum contrary to what Singer claims. And who believes Singer? lol

    How is anyone hurt by believing him? You're so full of shit. You're no better than anyone else with your bullshit motives.

    get help

  13. #353
    And for fucks sake - EV can be an opinion when not defined by a repeatable/randomized process. Of course it is an opinion what someone's EV is on a bet. That opinion may be directed by a methodology but it is completely fair to call it an opinion. He isn't wrong about that. Opinions aren't some necessarily bad thing.

    Yet you don't even get that. Here you are lecturing people because you've heard me argue with him about EV. You don't even understand the nuances of our discussion but here you are Mr Math.

    For fucks sake - get help !

  14. #354
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I just don't think it is wrong
    Stop with your nonsense about the imaginary effect that this forum may have on unknown random visitors.

    Other members also just don't think what they post is wrong, and they don't care what you think.

    Will you ever wise up?

  15. #355
    Goddamn Kewl triggered me. This is a 5 poster in a row. Yabbering to myself like a man of madness equal to Kewl.

    AIQ, get help.

  16. #356
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post

    You go after Redietz as hard as anything. Just as mean as anyone is to anyone else. And Redietz hasn't been shown to lie about anything really.
    HE Hasn't? Dude he told everyone or if he didn't actually say I am a professional sports Bettor, which I believe he did, he at the very least lead everyone to believe he was a sports bettor, the likes of a Billy Walters, (who he name drops), who made his money from betting sports, not from selling picks. THAT is a big difference. And he did this for 15 years on this forum. And he has been on many other forums doing the same thing.

    Rob claims Dietz solicited him, his services. I don't believe much of what Rob says, but I believe this. I believe it because AAI see with my own eyes, redietz trying in every way he can to collect information on forum members. Plus all the linking to his own site, where if you visit, he can solicit you.

    Come on Dude, even YOU said something to the effect redietz was trying to collect information on people.
    Expected Value is NOT an opinion.

  17. #357
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post

    You go after Redietz as hard as anything. Just as mean as anyone is to anyone else. And Redietz hasn't been shown to lie about anything really.
    HE Hasn't? Dude he told everyone or if he didn't actually say I am a professional sports Bettor, which I believe he did, he at the very least lead everyone to believe he was a sports bettor, the likes of a Billy Walters, (who he name drops), who made his money from betting sports, not from selling picks. THAT is a big difference. And he did this for 15 years on this forum. And he has been on many other forums doing the same thing.

    Rob claims Dietz solicited him, his services. I don't believe much of what Rob says, but I believe this. I believe it because AAI see with my own eyes, redietz trying in every way he can to collect information on forum members. Plus all the linking to his own site, where if you visit, he can solicit you.

    Come on Dude, even YOU said something to the effect redietz was trying to collect information on people.
    Who cares? He doesn't really lie, particularly exagerate or have any of the behaviors you claim to want to be protecting people from.

    He may try to collect info on forum members. Yes, he's kinda creepy in that way but thats something irrrelevant. You of all people don't need to be worried about that. You've spent just as long on these forums hiding from every fucking shadow you can. THe guy puts himself out there far more publicly than you do. I respect him far more than I respect you. I've todl the guy he should tell more stories. I don't even want to hear your strories because they're the same as the stories from your black sister. (Tasha).

    God Bless her for putting up with you as a brother ...

    You go on and on about Rob lying but now when it fits you, you all at once want to believe him when no one else can point to Redietz soliciting them? fuck off loser. jesus

  18. #358
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post

    Some of us come off as real assholes at times when we post (myself included) but it seems to me that is just our "false face," our internet personae which we adopt in order to have a bit of fun and find some temporary relief from the pressures of modern living.
    MrV, I don't see where you do this?
    I've mocked Karen and treated her shabbily in a quasi-racist manner.

    No regrets at that assholery though: going down the rabbit hole with "mammie" and "shittin' de flo'" was a blast.
    What, Me Worry?

  19. #359
    Isn't me that changed AcctinQ. It is you. Take 20 minutes and go back 5-6 years and read what you were writing and what I was writing. I am the same guy. You, 180 degrees different.

    Of all the stupid shit you haters have come up with the absolute stupidest is that I have spent 22 years learning everything I have learned, moved 2500 miles across country, learned what I need to learn about Las Vegas and card counting in Vegas, so that I can fool 10 people on a nearly dead internet forum. Do you know how ridiculous that is. Hard to take anything you say seriously when you repeat THAT.
    Expected Value is NOT an opinion.

  20. #360
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post

    Some of us come off as real assholes at times when we post (myself included) but it seems to me that is just our "false face," our internet personae which we adopt in order to have a bit of fun and find some temporary relief from the pressures of modern living.
    MrV, I don't see where you do this?
    I've mocked Karen and treated her shabbily in a quasi-racist manner.

    No regrets at that assholery though: going down the rabbit hole with "mammie" and "shittin' de flo'" was a blast.
    It is a free country (still I think). and a semi free speech forum. Not totally free speech as Boz and others that say something about Druff find out.
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