I think Rob is right about this. As I said before I initially thought that when you brought in $400 of coins they would give you $400 of cash plus $40 of free play.

But then I found out they gave you slot play for your initial $400 which put your own money at risk. And you still consider that a +EV play? I don't think it is.

Bringing in $400 of coin to get $400 of cash plus $40 of free play IS a +EV move and I'd do that all day if the bank was conveniently located. But letting a casino take your cash and giving you slot play is not +EV even with a $40 or $80 free play incentive. The casino has you APs outsmarted on this one. Sorry.

Oh, by the way, this has nothing to do with 18 yos in a row which is the only personal attack missing in this thread.