Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
I think Rob is right about this. As I said before I initially thought that when you brought in $400 of coins they would give you $400 of cash plus $40 of free play.

But then I found out they gave you slot play for your initial $400 which put your own money at risk. And you still consider that a +EV play? I don't think it is.

Bringing in $400 of coin to get $400 of cash plus $40 of free play IS a +EV move and I'd do that all day if the bank was conveniently located. But letting a casino take your cash and giving you slot play is not +EV even with a $40 or $80 free play incentive. The casino has you APs outsmarted on this one. Sorry.

Oh, by the way, this has nothing to do with 18 yos in a row which is the only personal attack missing in this thread.
As usual, Rob is 100% WRONG! I showed you the return yesterday. Wise up! Wait, don't do that. We need people losing their money!
Jbjb all you show is "expected return." If you want to live your life with expected returns go ahead and do that and more power to you. But don't tell me Rob is wrong. Yes, Rob is taking a different point of view just as I am. But Rob isn't wrong just as I'm not wrong. Your EV is not cut into stone, it's not forged in steel, it is not insured or guaranteed. Just please concede that much.