But if he’s bashing Trump, like you do, is he lying?Quote:
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Originally Posted by MDawg
Or is he telling the truth in this regard?
Yea, I know, you’ll ignore this comment.
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But if he’s bashing Trump, like you do, is he lying?Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawgQuote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
Or is he telling the truth in this regard?
Yea, I know, you’ll ignore this comment.
Check his wealth for the past ten years, not 1 year.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJWhat source are you using for this "half his wealth" comment? Both Forbes and Bloomberg has lists of billionaires worth each year and both have reported that Donald Trump's net worth has more than doubled in the last 12 months? And all of that has really occurred in the last 6 months since the election. Are Bloomberg and Forbes liberal rags not up to your standards?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
I had a great year last year mickeycrimm. My top 2 years ever. But guess what? I didn't come close to doubling my wealth. Maybe it increased 10%...haven't figured it out. :rolleyes: And I strongly doubt any other member of this forum has doubled their wealth in the last 12 months. :cool: I hope you had a great year as well, mickeycrimm. But if you did, it was due to mickeycrimm and his hard work, and had little to do with Donald Trump.
You can say whatever you want but this increase in Trumps wealth was due to the presidency. He is literally selling the presidency and access to the presidency. There is an argument to be made that all presidents have done this to some extend, but not like this guy!
You can admire Trump. Agree with his political positions, immigration and so forth. You can admire his business model (I don't because I know or knew people hurt by him when he didn't pay what was owed). But deep down you have to know that Donald J Trump does what is best for Donald J Trump. Not for anyone else. And always has!
I just checked. Forbes had Trumps wealth at 4.5 billion in 2016 and down to 2,5 billion in 2021.
Trumps businesses are in a blind trust. He has no business dealing. But easy enough for libtards to lie about it.
I am not going to, nor want to fight you mickeycrimm. If you think Trump is really good for the country and doing things that benefit everyone, rather than himself, good for you. I would like to know what he has done that has been beneficial to you, but really don't even answer that. It's not important. Peace to you my friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmCheck his wealth for the past ten years, not 1 year.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJWhat source are you using for this "half his wealth" comment? Both Forbes and Bloomberg has lists of billionaires worth each year and both have reported that Donald Trump's net worth has more than doubled in the last 12 months? And all of that has really occurred in the last 6 months since the election. Are Bloomberg and Forbes liberal rags not up to your standards?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
I had a great year last year mickeycrimm. My top 2 years ever. But guess what? I didn't come close to doubling my wealth. Maybe it increased 10%...haven't figured it out. :rolleyes: And I strongly doubt any other member of this forum has doubled their wealth in the last 12 months. :cool: I hope you had a great year as well, mickeycrimm. But if you did, it was due to mickeycrimm and his hard work, and had little to do with Donald Trump.
You can say whatever you want but this increase in Trumps wealth was due to the presidency. He is literally selling the presidency and access to the presidency. There is an argument to be made that all presidents have done this to some extend, but not like this guy!
You can admire Trump. Agree with his political positions, immigration and so forth. You can admire his business model (I don't because I know or knew people hurt by him when he didn't pay what was owed). But deep down you have to know that Donald J Trump does what is best for Donald J Trump. Not for anyone else. And always has!
GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE!!! You are a funny guy mickeycrimm. :D (there isn't an emoji laughing hard enough!!)Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Its not about me. Its about my family and extended family. They are just working class people and deserve good paying jobs with reasonable living expenses. The dems are now about the poor and the rich. They dont give a rats ass about the middle class. Trump is pushing no tax on tips, no tax on overtime pay, no tax on SS, car loan interest deductions. Thats huge for the working people of this country. The bill got thru the house without a single democrat vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJI am not going to, nor want to fight you mickeycrimm. If you think Trump is really good for the country and doing things that benefit everyone, rather than himself, good for you. I would like to know what he has done that has been beneficial to you, but really don't even answer that. It's not important. Peace to you my friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmCheck his wealth for the past ten years, not 1 year.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
So your talk that Trump is just for himself is bullshit.
Do you ever google anything, buttfuck? His blind trust was all over the national news for weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJGET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE!!! You are a funny guy mickeycrimm. :D (there isn't an emoji laughing hard enough!!)Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
No tax on tip, no tax on OT pay, no tax on SS. That is all great. No doubt a financial bump for the working class. And who is paying for that? If you take in less taxes, then you can't pay for everything without the deficit going way up. And that is on top of Trumps Big Beautiful bill.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
So who is paying for that. Well future generations for one. But there is another group more important to me. That is my mother. And you mickeycrimm and everyone else on Social security. Social security is projected to hit that point that they can't pay full benefits in 8 years. 8 YEARS! When my mother moved to Vegas in her late 50's she had a pension from decades of being a teacher. But it really isn't enough to live off of. Not until SS kicked in. My brother and I didn't want her to start to collect as soon as she was able. We wanted to wait until full benefit age, so we subsidized here for a few years. She has now hit that full benefit age, and just started getting here Social security. I want her to get what she is entitled to, not a 30% reduction because the SS fund has been exhausted.
Oh and these no tax things that your boy Trump has proposed. That means no social security tax either and the fund will run dry even earlier.
So, NO, I don't want my mother paying for a tax cut for working people. The deal has always been, you work....you pay taxes.
You had 4 years of Biden to complain about the deficit. You passed. Dont start now.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJNo tax on tip, no tax on OT pay, no tax on SS. That is all great. No doubt a financial bump for the working class. And who is paying for that? If you take in less taxes, then you can't pay for everything without the deficit going way up. And that is on top of Trumps Big Beautiful bill.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
So who is paying for that. Well future generations for one. But there is another group more important to me. That is my mother. And you mickeycrimm and everyone else on Social security. Social security is projected to hit that point that they can't pay full benefits in 8 years. 8 YEARS! When my mother moved to Vegas in her late 50's she had a pension from decades of being a teacher. But it really isn't enough to live off of. Not until SS kicked in. My brother and I didn't want her to start to collect as soon as she was able. We wanted to wait until full benefit age, so we subsidized here for a few years. She has now hit that full benefit age, and just started getting here Social security. I want her to get what she is entitled to, not a 30% reduction because the SS fund has been exhausted.
Oh and these no tax things that your boy Trump has proposed. That means no social security tax either and the fund will run dry even earlier.
So, NO, I don't want my mother paying for a tax cut for working people. The deal has always been, you work....you pay taxes.
The middle class has been ignored for decades. You want to continue to ignore them.
SS was supposed to go broke 40 years ago, then 30 years ago, then 20 years ago, then 10 years ago. Its didnt happen because adjustments were made when it became politically necessary. Adjustments will be made again when its politically necessry.
PS tax cuts cause revenue to go up.
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"Donald Trump's assets were placed in a revocable trust, not a blind trust, when he took office.
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Trustees of the Revocable Trust:
Donald Trump Jr.: Trump's eldest son.
Allen Weisselberg: The Trump Organization's chief financial officer.
Important Note: This arrangement differs from a blind trust, where the beneficiary has no knowledge or control over the assets. In Trump's case, the fact that the trust was revocable and managed by his son and a long-time employee of his organization raised concerns about potential conflicts of interest." ---per google AI
and see: https://www.commoncause.org/articles...ust-is-a-sham/
Kew, when you're trying to discuss your lack of knowledge about the tax bill, don't be relating it to how it will or will not affect your fucked up family; open up your little mind to what it means for the normal ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJNo tax on tip, no tax on OT pay, no tax on SS. That is all great. No doubt a financial bump for the working class. And who is paying for that? If you take in less taxes, then you can't pay for everything without the deficit going way up. And that is on top of Trumps Big Beautiful bill.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
So who is paying for that. Well future generations for one. But there is another group more important to me. That is my mother. And you mickeycrimm and everyone else on Social security. Social security is projected to hit that point that they can't pay full benefits in 8 years. 8 YEARS! When my mother moved to Vegas in her late 50's she had a pension from decades of being a teacher. But it really isn't enough to live off of. Not until SS kicked in. My brother and I didn't want her to start to collect as soon as she was able. We wanted to wait until full benefit age, so we subsidized here for a few years. She has now hit that full benefit age, and just started getting here Social security. I want her to get what she is entitled to, not a 30% reduction because the SS fund has been exhausted.
Oh and these no tax things that your boy Trump has proposed. That means no social security tax either and the fund will run dry even earlier.
So, NO, I don't want my mother paying for a tax cut for working people. The deal has always been, you work....you pay taxes.
History already has proven the effectiveness of Trump's tax bill during his first term for the middle class, which was very effective in correcting 8 years of Obama's mistakes. Then Biden--or whoever was directing the stiff--brought us a financial disaster. And now, we all should be thankful that Trump's bill will get things back on track.
Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
I guess then I got real lucky as my portfolio soared under Biden.
I can't say the same about Trump this term.
Trumps term is just starting.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterVReally?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
I guess then I got real lucky as my portfolio soared under Biden.
I can't say the same about Trump this term.
What is Trump doing that is beneficial to me? He just told pharma they have one month to bring US drug prices in line with what they charge the rest of the world or he will do it by executive order.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJI am not going to, nor want to fight you mickeycrimm. If you think Trump is really good for the country and doing things that benefit everyone, rather than himself, good for you. I would like to know what he has done that has been beneficial to you, but really don't even answer that. It's not important. Peace to you my friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmCheck his wealth for the past ten years, not 1 year.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
The biggest effect for me is two drugs i take, Eliquis which costs americans $7100 a year but in other countries they pay $700 a year, and Jardiance which costs 11K per year in US but only 1K per year in other countries.
You really need to keep up on current events.
Current events?
Another court ruled against him, saying he lacks the power to do what he's trying to do, i.e. usurp the power of Congress as well as the judiciary.
Of course the USSC will be the final aribiter.
Stay tuned...
Hmm. Anyone else think that 10 years prison sentence was incredibly lenient for a Robbery and a Murder? :confused: I feel the sentencing should have been the equivalent of at LEAST how old he was when he was tragically Murdered over money. He was 25. The prison sentence should have been at LEAST 25 years.
A Woman who accidentally killed someone in a DUI accident is serving a 50 year prison sentence and that was a PURE ACCIDENT. Surely purposely robbing someone and purposely Murdering someone should be a much harsher sentence than 10 years if a pure accident killing is worth 50 year prison sentence. What a complete injustice that his Robbers and Murderers only got 10 year prison sentence. :(
The left wing lost the election bigtime so is using the courts to stifle Trump. SCOTUS will nix all those lower court abuses. And that exactly what they are, abuse by by the left wing lower courts.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
I disagree Mickey: some of the judges ruling against him were appointed by republicans, in fact Trump his own self appointed a judge who basically said "You're full of shit, bozo, get the hell out of my courtroom."
Ain't lawfare, it's checks and balances...you know, like in the Constitution, that thing Trump uses as TP for his bung hole.
Trump may have a tough time keeping Roberts in line as he seems, dare I say it, willing to do what the law and not politics mandates.
"Sic semper tyrannis."
More or less agree with mickey on this. Will wonders never cease?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmThe left wing lost the election bigtime so is using the courts to stifle Trump. SCOTUS will nix all those lower court abuses. And that exactly what they are, abuse by by the left wing lower courts.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
Since "the power of Congress" and "the judiciary" are currently not opposed to Trump, all of this is just friction as opposed to a roadblock. I guess maybe they're hoping another shooter or two magically comes out of the woodwork and takes a whack. And then has their homes scrubbed clean.
Speaking of which, has it occurred to anyone (since this is ostensibly an LV forum) that the LV shooter from Mandalay and the Trump PA shooter had remarkably scrubbed residences? Must use the same cleaning service. I guess there's a strong psych eval correlation between going out in a public space amidst a gory splash of glory and wanting the home you leave behind spic and span.
And presumably this already come into effect?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmWhat is Trump doing that is beneficial to me? He just told pharma they have one month to bring US drug prices in line with what they charge the rest of the world or he will do it by executive order.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJI am not going to, nor want to fight you mickeycrimm. If you think Trump is really good for the country and doing things that benefit everyone, rather than himself, good for you. I would like to know what he has done that has been beneficial to you, but really don't even answer that. It's not important. Peace to you my friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
The biggest effect for me is two drugs i take, Eliquis which costs americans $7100 a year but in other countries they pay $700 a year, and Jardiance which costs 11K per year in US but only 1K per year in other countries.
You really need to keep up on current events.
Many examples of republican picks turning out to be flaming liberals. And most republicans are RINO’s. The dems go judge shopping.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
I just dontget where you lefties think its okay for them to tariff us but we cant reciprocate.
I googled eliquis price reduction and it was all from Aug 15 2024 before trump started? Hahaha please don't tell me this is something trump took credit for and mickey believed.
Wow. A thread that started about two gold diggers robbing and murdering someone who was only 25 got hijacked into being about Trump/Politics. :( Sad really. :(
My current cost for eliquis is $120 per month/20%. Medicare Part D Insurance pays $480 a month/80%, for a total cost of $600 per month. Thats $7200 per year.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
But, you don't seem to care when your fake friends (who are using you to further their own agenda) completely troll and hijack threads to attack other members, including threads they have no business being in. At least this is semi-productive hijacking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tasha
You need a clinic on how you the taxpayer are getting ripped off. I use a bi-pap. A medical supply store was charging $480 to replace the mask and hose. Medicare paid 80% of it and I paid 20%. But an individual can walk into any medical supply store and buy the mask and hose for about $150.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmMy current cost for eliquis is $120 per month/20%. Medicare Part D Insurance pays $480 a month/80%, for a total cost of $600 per month. Thats $7200 per year.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
In addition to Medicare being charged an exorbitant price there is frequency of purchase. They were shipping a new mask and hose to me every three months. So medicare was paying about $1600 a year and I was paying about $400 a year.
But after extensive use of the bi-pap i determined the mask really needed to be replaced only twice a year. And the hose only once a year. I cancelled the medicare approved company and started buying directly from the local medical supply store because it costs less.
This is just one example. What I’ve learned is there is the price the individual is charged but if medicare is paying the charge is about 4 times as much. Since the individual pays medicare the 20% deductible they are paying about the same price anyway. But the company selling the product is making a windfall off medicare.
It works the same way with prescription meds.
Your tax dollars at work. Long live Joe Biden.
I'm not questioning how it is broken but rather who has put more into fixing it. Which may not be the same story as what you hear in the fake news.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmYou need a clinic on how you the taxpayer are getting ripped off. I use a bi-pap. A medical supply store was charging $480 to replace the mask and hose. Medicare paid 80% of it and I paid 20%. But an individual can walk into any medical supply store and buy the mask and hose for about $150.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmMy current cost for eliquis is $120 per month/20%. Medicare Part D Insurance pays $480 a month/80%, for a total cost of $600 per month. Thats $7200 per year.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
In addition to Medicare being charged an exorbitant price there is frequency of purchase. They were shipping a new mask and hose to me every three months. So medicare was paying about $1600 a year and I was paying about $400 a year.
But after extensive use of the bi-pap i determined the mask really needed to be replaced only twice a year. And the hose only once a year. I cancelled the medicare approved company and started buying directly from the local medical supply store because it costs less.
This is just one example. What I’ve learned is there is the price the individual is charged but if medicare is paying the charge is about 4 times as much. Since the individual pays medicare the 20% deductible they are paying about the same price anyway. But the company selling the product is making a windfall off medicare.
It works the same way with prescription meds.
Your tax dollars at work. Long live Joe Biden.
Trump tried to cut medicaid but dems aint buying it.the diff between medicare and medicaid is there is no 20% deductible. The recipient gets everything free including the meds. Medicaid pays 4 times the price just like medicare.
We also pay around $175/mo. for Medicare each while Medicaid slugs get it for free.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Huh? The cuts of the One Big Beautiful Bill Act ARE for Medicaid, which is known as Medi-Cal in California. It imposes work requirements, more frequent eligibility checks, cutting federal funds to states that use Medicaid infrastructure to provide health care coverage to undocumented immigrants and banning Medicaid from covering gender transition services for children and adults.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
It also affects Medicare. The bill includes provisions that could potentially lead to cuts in Medicare spending, specifically through the Pay-As-You-Go Act and adjustments to eligibility requirements.
Why isn't this retard pretending to be a high roller?
Mickey, with all due respect, I think you and some of the other repubs are getting yourselves all worked up over Medicaid, thinking people are getting free coverage the same as the Medicare you worked for. I don't think it is. Not even close. My understanding is people on the medicaid program have to pick from a list of doctors that accept medicaid. That is generally the lower end type doctors. Clinics and small private practice doctor in poorer areas that don't speak good english. That sort of thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
They aren't getting the same coverage and quality care you or someone on Medicare gets. Do you really want to deny poor people even the basic lower end medical coverage? Come on we are America. Not some 3rd world country. We are better than that. We can afford to give everyone the very basic, lower standard medical coverage.
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Originally Posted by MDawgIt would take too long to find and post all the times he hasQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
)Quit forums
)Declared that he will no longer interact with MDawg
)Declared that he will no longer interact with R.Singer
only to return within a matter of days if not hours.
But I could probably find and post a dozen of those "never again vows" pretty quickly. Besides the fact that he is an indecisive twit, this sort of thing also ebs and flows with his manic depression.
Fuck the poor.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Let natural selection weed out the weak.
Survival of the fittest.
Yeah, I have a problem paying for their health care, housing, cell phones ... I worked for what I got, they should have to also.
Otherwise...it's the Soylent Green pit for them...
here is the problem MrV. In the world you describe, there will be more crime and murder and people taking what they want out of desperation. And they will have guns the same as you. You may find that YOU are not the fittest or the hungriest, when that time comes.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
Are you implying that we have this "social safety net" in place mainly to prevent the poor from running amuck?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
I'm sorry KJ but I've seen this country start sliding down the drain after we put a man on the moon, and the pace of failure seems to be increasing.
All the fucking homeless out there...good grief!
And there's no end in sight.
Junkies / fentany addicts, mentally ill people sleeping in tents in the 'burbs, busted out gamblers in the tunnels: bah, round them up and put them in work camps / secure facilities (yeah, like jails) where they can earn money and perhaps a skill so that when they 'graduate" they have a shot at self-sufficiency, and if they screw up and break the law ship them to El Salvador.
I'd prefer my tax dollars be used for that.
V, aren't you at least...curious about the psychological makeup of a person who keeps quitting internet forums only to return in a matter of hours or days. Would you not think that at a minimum, such a person by now would realize that he is incapable of any kind of resolve, and at least stop making such vows?
Or is it that the incapacity to adhere to a vow is part of the incapacity of refraining from making such empty declarations?
I won't go further in this particular post to belabor how it defies logic that someone like that could handle any kind of even simple task that requires dedication, I believe everyone observing (and commenting) on UNKewlJ already knows that.
His exploding with the n word when it's pretty clear that he's trying to control himself but simply cannot, constantly liable to the emotional excesses of a child or an adolescent, those things too....
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Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Kew has humiliated and made a fool of himself too many times to go on living.
Any issue with that, V?
People on medicaid go to the exact same doctors offices i go to. Trump is trying to get able bodied men up to age 45 off medicaid. There are plenty of exemptions for those that are not physically fit. Clinton did it with food stamps. He raised the age requirement for able bodied men to 51.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJMickey, with all due respect, I think you and some of the other repubs are getting yourselves all worked up over Medicaid, thinking people are getting free coverage the same as the Medicare you worked for. I don't think it is. Not even close. My understanding is people on the medicaid program have to pick from a list of doctors that accept medicaid. That is generally the lower end type doctors. Clinics and small private practice doctor in poorer areas that don't speak good english. That sort of thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
They aren't getting the same coverage and quality care you or someone on Medicare gets. Do you really want to deny poor people even the basic lower end medical coverage? Come on we are America. Not some 3rd world country. We are better than that. We can afford to give everyone the very basic, lower standard medical coverage.
I'm basically sort of neutral now when it comes to "judging" KJ ("Judge not, lest ye be judged"), but he doesn't require any help defending himself.
I think that beneath the veneer of quasi-manic intensity he's quietly laughing his ass off.
Whatever, many on these forums are not in fact what they claim to be: that's part of the attraction and the fun of it.
Me too?
Could be I'm just a middle aged black autistic woman with a gamblin' jones who likes to eat Church's Chicken and shit 'de flo': who knows, and better yet, who cares?
Don't mean nothin'.
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