Quick Note for Todd

[AxelWolf]

The 5K profit is a combined figure of the Boyd properties and the Palms. It includes free play turned into cash but does not assign any value to comps. The number of free rooms garnered per year at Boyd varied from 12 to 24, available on multiple properties. Few weekend dates. The 5K figure is ballpark within a hundred dollars.

Sorry if you think I don't play optimally. I simply park my ass at the machine and follow the third panel of the LVA strategy cards, which I keep right there on the machine as I play. I don't worry about the fourth panel precision. And I do play just 500 hands per hour, as I try to enjoy myself.

At 60 hours of play per year, I'm dropping maybe $300 per year not counting cash back. I was getting between 12 and 24 nights comped while also receiving offers for the occasional video poker tournament or strange promo. Plus I did the majority of play on senior days, so was picking up a free meal on most of the days played. Playing three hours a day for 14 days would yield about 14 free meals, a value of roughly an additional $150.

LOL. Yeah, I'm a real sucker. Do you really think I don't know this stuff? I've been reading the LVA since its inception. I started going to LV when the LVA started printing, more or less. I read Dancer's book three times and have had strategy cards since they were first printed. And, as I said, I'm half a step above civilian and a step above retard, because all of this stuff is basic and simple. Why would I need to know strategy when I can sit there and read off an LVA card and never make more than one or two inconsequential errors per session?

Yep, that reading strategy cards. What a concept!

And sorry, man. My Boyd plus Palms figure is roughly +5K. Not counting comps but counting cash back. I apologize for playing close to optimally, but it ain't hard to read.

Again, why would you assume I can't read a strategy card? That would be like...assuming some guy blathering about sports betting had never read a published monitor report. You'd have to be a real brain-dead moron to think you knew about ATS records without having read published reports.

Mickey brought back some fond memories. I remember the FPDW progressive bank at the Palms, right around the corner from the sports book at the entrance. I recall the 9/6 progressive at the Westward Ho next to the Stardust. Get my seat at the Stardust sports book on a Saturday early AM, get a coffee, play a half hour at the Ho if I could get a seat. Then there was the FPDW at the old Frontier, with a progressive as I recall. And Stations also had FPDW, eventually having it available on nickels only before vetoing it. Stations had some good video poker tournaments, like Boyd did. I placed in a couple. Sometimes I was even me when I did so. Sometimes not.

But, as I said, I'm strictly a 50-hour-a-year amateur. I know nothing. Now sports betting, that I know something about.

Redietz, Im sure the Frontier didn't have a FPDW prog. I guess it's possible they had one prior to me being 21. They did have $1 and .50 FPDW non progs. What year's were you frequenting LV for sports betting? When did you start playing machines?

I don't recall WWH having a 9/6 prog. Are you sure it wasn't an 8/5?

If you seen and played Circus Flush attack why not Stardusts Flush attack? They were also right next to the sports book and much better than CC SB FA's. CC actually had 3 banks of FA at one time. At its peak CC was probably worth about $65 an hour on the FA's.

Not bad for a 22-23. ish year old kid who was making only $8 just prior to going full time gambling for a living.

I'm certain the Ho had the 9/6 progressive. Right in front as you walked in.

Circus-Circus, I knew they had multiple flush attacks. One in front just inside the coffee shop area; another in the back towards the sports book. I did not remember them having three. I don't recall where the third bank was. Did the front area have two separate banks in the same room? Are you counting that as the third?

I could be wrong on progressives attached to the FPDW at the Frontier. I didn't play there that often, but I thought they had progressives attached. Could be dead wrong on that.

I started staying a hundred days a year in LV either the year Lefty Rosenthal's car was blown up or the year before. Off the top of my head, I honestly don't remember which; they tend to blend. The LV Advisor began publishing the second or third year I was in LV, so I was aware of the machines, but didn't actually play them at all until a few years later when sports comps began to deteriorate and lost their equivalency with race comps. Discretionary comps also began to tighten up dramatically; slot cards had just begun. I remember the Gold Coast using punch cards as their first slot cards. When you bought in for coins, your card was punched. A full card got you a meal. I pulled a Dancer, wore a trench coat, ran each roll of coins through once, cashed out and put the money in the trench coat pockets. Went to my room, dumped the coins, then went back and got more. Picked up something like 24 meals in a couple of days. LOL. Terrible stuff -- used Dancer as an inspiration. He was doing even worse, niggardly type stuff like this back then.

CC had 3 separate banks of Flush Attack. One outside the Pizza place (slant tops). One bank of uprights near the elevators down a little past the steakhouse.

Of course the one in the sports book Area.

If you were playing Flush attacks in CC there's s significant chance I was taking money out of your pocket since I was practically living in CC when they had Flush Attack. You sound like you were a Flush attack Ploppy(dont take offense). They eventually took the sports book FA and the elevator banks out leaving the Pizza Bank intact much longer..


I wouldn't know when leftys car blew up, I wasn't even a teenager then. I barely knew LV or the MOB even existed.

Jackets to hide coins? LOL.that seems very silly, just crack them open then put them in buckets or racks.and walk to another cashier and cash them in.

Most places had win/looss log books they used to track your play and comp accordingly. I did this often but not as much as i should have and only got the tail end of it.
I'll post a scene from movie Hard Eight that shows the prosses.