Quick Note for Todd

[Don Perignom]

Lol redietz dancing around. Nailed by Crimm again.

Is "dick rider" one word or two?

[accountinquestion]

Lol redietz dancing around. Nailed by Crimm again.

Is "dick rider" one word or two?

Eh? His "quick note to Todd" references something about Expected Value which is an explicit reference to an ongoing discussion we've had.

So I must not understand your point.

I was going to say something about it being a clownworld out there but meh it goes without saying.

[Don Perignom]

So I must not understand your point.

In the last little while, crimm has been widely wrong on the numbers at least twice while presenting himself as an expert. But you ignore that, and instead only care about testing red's decades-old memories.

If anyone tried to scrutinize my play history, I would look like the biggest liar ever because I just don't remember the details.

[accountinquestion]

So I must not understand your point.

In the last little while, crimm has been widely wrong on the numbers at least twice while presenting himself as an expert. But you ignore that, and instead only care about testing red's decades-old memories.

If anyone tried to scrutinize my play history, I would look like the biggest liar ever because I just don't remember the details.

Fair enough. TBH I don't care much whether Crimm is right/wrong so I didn't verify anything. It is redietz. I actually tell myself I'll lay off him. Infact I removed him from my signature. He of course didn't quit posting like he claimed. I'm not sure why the guy rubs me the wrong way so much.. that combo of arrogance and wrongness is special.

[Don Perignom]

I'm not sure why the guy rubs me the wrong way so much.. that combo of arrogance and wrongness is special.

We all have our kryptonite. I'm lazy and usually just block those people.

I've said before that I'm not usually on Red's wavelength, but he has unique perspectives and a rich vocabulary.

I pulled a Dancer, wore a trench coat, ran each roll of coins through once, cashed out and put the money in the trench coat pockets. Went to my room, dumped the coins, then went back and got more. Picked up something like 24 meals in a couple of days. LOL. Terrible stuff -- used Dancer as an inspiration. He was doing even worse, niggardly type stuff like this back then.

Can I just say, the black people in my neighborhood did not behave like that.

[mickeycrimm]

So I must not understand your point.

In the last little while, crimm has been widely wrong on the numbers at least twice while presenting himself as an expert. But you ignore that, and instead only care about testing red's decades-old memories.

If anyone tried to scrutinize my play history, I would look like the biggest liar ever because I just don't remember the details.

Don't recall ever referring to myself as an expert. I've made mistakes gillions of times doing gambling math. That's why I usually go over it 3 or four times. In this case I didn't do it. But I immediately admitted I made a mistake.

The 2nd one you referred to is not a mistake at all. I said NSUD was closer to Ugly Ducks and it is. The two strategies almost mirror each other. That's because the flush and full house pay the same with the straight flush being just one off.

But ditz was still running a big deficit. Ugly Ducks is under 99%. That's a big deficit. Jean Scott did not advise him to play that game.

BTW, using a Jacks or Better game like Double Bonus to try to calculate a Deuce game like Ugly Ducks is just downright funny. I kept my mouth shut about it. Didn't criticize. But since I'm being now being criticized by the person that did it, hey what the hell?

[Don Perignom]

The 2nd one you referred to is not a mistake at all.

This was the comment I felt was misleading:

Playing NSUD on Ugly Ducks is certainly closer but you are still giving up EV.

I may have interpreted harshly. In the spirit of Pride Month, I'll withdraw the complaint.

BTW, using a Jacks or Better game like Double Bonus to try to calculate a Deuce game like Ugly Ducks is just downright funny.

Thank you, I thought it was funny. I have a weird sense of humor.

[DGenBen]

This was the comment I felt was misleading:



I may have interpreted harshly. In the spirit of Pride Month, I'll withdraw the complaint.

BTW, using a Jacks or Better game like Double Bonus to try to calculate a Deuce game like Ugly Ducks is just downright funny.

Thank you, I thought it was funny. I have a weird sense of humor.

I think everyone that posts here has a weird sense of humor.

Why else would they be here, the quality & depth of the gambling information?

[Rob.Singer]

The craziest part of this nonsense is that a proven coward - who no-shows to his own proposed meet-up while simultaneously blaming the target's wife - is now begging for a meeting with a guy who claimed to "fall asleep" when shit got real....with the same target!

No doubt this Dr. Beck is paying for dinner. Red's running behind on solicitations, and he couldn't find any coupons for the place after dumpster-diving.

[jdog]

Why don't you put in a call to "Anthony Curtis" and ask what the detriment is for using FPDW strategy cards for NSUD. Or drop Dancer a line. If you don't, I will.

Hang on... did red say there that HE would actually research something for once, instead of just telling someone else to??

I'm stepping outside to see if the sky is falling...

[tableplay]

So I must not understand your point.

In the last little while, crimm has been widely wrong on the numbers at least twice while presenting himself as an expert. But you ignore that, and instead only care about testing red's decades-old memories.

If anyone tried to scrutinize my play history, I would look like the biggest liar ever because I just don't remember the details.

Don't recall ever referring to myself as an expert. I've made mistakes gillions of times doing gambling math. That's why I usually go over it 3 or four times. In this case I didn't do it. But I immediately admitted I made a mistake.

The 2nd one you referred to is not a mistake at all. I said NSUD was closer to Ugly Ducks and it is. The two strategies almost mirror each other. That's because the flush and full house pay the same with the straight flush being just one off.

But ditz was still running a big deficit. Ugly Ducks is under 99%. That's a big deficit. Jean Scott did not advise him to play that game.

BTW, using a Jacks or Better game like Double Bonus to try to calculate a Deuce game like Ugly Ducks is just downright funny. I kept my mouth shut about it. Didn't criticize. But since I'm being now being criticized by the person that did it, hey what the hell?

The analysis you posted on Wolf Run Eclipse recently was excellent and clearly shows you know exactly how to use math to make money at casinos. From the knowledge of what metrics to collect on the machine to how to crunch them shows expertise. Your analysis of Must Hit By's, other banked game slots, progressive Keno and some of the specialized VP games at Montana bars are also terrific. You worked out the correct strategy for Draw Til you Win with pencil and paper to make a lot of money on this game. Any poster calling your skill set into question is giving an utterly absurd take on your skills as an advantage player.

[accountinquestion]

The craziest part of this nonsense is that a proven coward - who no-shows to his own proposed meet-up while simultaneously blaming the target's wife - is now begging for a meeting with a guy who claimed to "fall asleep" when shit got real....with the same target!

No doubt this Dr. Beck is paying for dinner. Red's running behind on solicitations, and he couldn't find any coupons for the place after dumpster-diving.

A tear formed when I read this.

[redietz]

So I must not understand your point.

In the last little while, crimm has been widely wrong on the numbers at least twice while presenting himself as an expert. But you ignore that, and instead only care about testing red's decades-old memories.

If anyone tried to scrutinize my play history, I would look like the biggest liar ever because I just don't remember the details.

Don't recall ever referring to myself as an expert. I've made mistakes gillions of times doing gambling math. That's why I usually go over it 3 or four times. In this case I didn't do it. But I immediately admitted I made a mistake.

The 2nd one you referred to is not a mistake at all. I said NSUD was closer to Ugly Ducks and it is. The two strategies almost mirror each other. That's because the flush and full house pay the same with the straight flush being just one off.

But ditz was still running a big deficit. Ugly Ducks is under 99%. That's a big deficit. Jean Scott did not advise him to play that game.

BTW, using a Jacks or Better game like Double Bonus to try to calculate a Deuce game like Ugly Ducks is just downright funny. I kept my mouth shut about it. Didn't criticize. But since I'm being now being criticized by the person that did it, hey what the hell?

Don't be shy, mickey. If every one of the 40 hours I spent in a year was playing NSUD at the 25-cent level, exactly how big an annual deficit was I running at 500 hands an hour?

My Jed Clampett cypherin' puts it at roughly $300. Annually. Sadly, mickey crimm is on record as considering a $300 annual loss a "big deficit."

The result of that "loss" would be 12 to 24 comped rooms, a dozen meals, and cashback. And senior drawings and all that.

Mickey emphasizes the theoretical in every post. That's because he almost never reports his actual results. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[mickeycrimm]

In the last little while, crimm has been widely wrong on the numbers at least twice while presenting himself as an expert. But you ignore that, and instead only care about testing red's decades-old memories.

If anyone tried to scrutinize my play history, I would look like the biggest liar ever because I just don't remember the details.

Don't recall ever referring to myself as an expert. I've made mistakes gillions of times doing gambling math. That's why I usually go over it 3 or four times. In this case I didn't do it. But I immediately admitted I made a mistake.

The 2nd one you referred to is not a mistake at all. I said NSUD was closer to Ugly Ducks and it is. The two strategies almost mirror each other. That's because the flush and full house pay the same with the straight flush being just one off.

But ditz was still running a big deficit. Ugly Ducks is under 99%. That's a big deficit. Jean Scott did not advise him to play that game.

BTW, using a Jacks or Better game like Double Bonus to try to calculate a Deuce game like Ugly Ducks is just downright funny. I kept my mouth shut about it. Didn't criticize. But since I'm being now being criticized by the person that did it, hey what the hell?

The analysis you posted on Wolf Run Eclipse recently was excellent and clearly shows you know exactly how to use math to make money at casinos. From the knowledge of what metrics to collect on the machine to how to crunch them shows expertise. Your analysis of Must Hit By's, other banked game slots, progressive Keno and some of the specialized VP games at Montana bars are also terrific. You worked out the correct strategy for Draw Til you Win with pencil and paper to make a lot of money on this game. Any poster calling your skill set into question is giving an utterly absurd take on your skills as an advantage player.

Thanks for the compliment, Tableplay. But I must admit that my mental acuity isn't what it once was. I'm getting a little sloppy in my old age. Well, part of it is age. The other part is I somewhat don't care anymore.

[mickeycrimm]

In the last little while, crimm has been widely wrong on the numbers at least twice while presenting himself as an expert. But you ignore that, and instead only care about testing red's decades-old memories.

If anyone tried to scrutinize my play history, I would look like the biggest liar ever because I just don't remember the details.

Don't recall ever referring to myself as an expert. I've made mistakes gillions of times doing gambling math. That's why I usually go over it 3 or four times. In this case I didn't do it. But I immediately admitted I made a mistake.

The 2nd one you referred to is not a mistake at all. I said NSUD was closer to Ugly Ducks and it is. The two strategies almost mirror each other. That's because the flush and full house pay the same with the straight flush being just one off.

But ditz was still running a big deficit. Ugly Ducks is under 99%. That's a big deficit. Jean Scott did not advise him to play that game.

BTW, using a Jacks or Better game like Double Bonus to try to calculate a Deuce game like Ugly Ducks is just downright funny. I kept my mouth shut about it. Didn't criticize. But since I'm being now being criticized by the person that did it, hey what the hell?

Don't be shy, mickey. If every one of the 40 hours I spent in a year was playing NSUD at the 25-cent level, exactly how big an annual deficit was I running at 500 hands an hour?

My Jed Clampett cypherin' puts it at roughly $300. Annually. Sadly, mickey crimm is on record as considering a $300 annual loss a "big deficit."

The result of that "loss" would be 12 to 24 comped rooms, a dozen meals, and cashback. And senior drawings and all that.

Mickey emphasizes the theoretical in every post. That's because he almost never reports his actual results. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

You weren't playing NSUD, 99.7%. By your own admission you were playing Ugly Ducks, 98.9%. But sure, just a theoretical few hundred dollar loss at your speed and denom.

But we have an accounting anomaly. How does a $300 loss per year jive with "I finished $5000 winner."

[redietz]

Don't recall ever referring to myself as an expert. I've made mistakes gillions of times doing gambling math. That's why I usually go over it 3 or four times. In this case I didn't do it. But I immediately admitted I made a mistake.

The 2nd one you referred to is not a mistake at all. I said NSUD was closer to Ugly Ducks and it is. The two strategies almost mirror each other. That's because the flush and full house pay the same with the straight flush being just one off.

But ditz was still running a big deficit. Ugly Ducks is under 99%. That's a big deficit. Jean Scott did not advise him to play that game.

BTW, using a Jacks or Better game like Double Bonus to try to calculate a Deuce game like Ugly Ducks is just downright funny. I kept my mouth shut about it. Didn't criticize. But since I'm being now being criticized by the person that did it, hey what the hell?

Don't be shy, mickey. If every one of the 40 hours I spent in a year was playing NSUD at the 25-cent level, exactly how big an annual deficit was I running at 500 hands an hour?

My Jed Clampett cypherin' puts it at roughly $300. Annually. Sadly, mickey crimm is on record as considering a $300 annual loss a "big deficit."

The result of that "loss" would be 12 to 24 comped rooms, a dozen meals, and cashback. And senior drawings and all that.

Mickey emphasizes the theoretical in every post. That's because he almost never reports his actual results. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

You weren't playing NSUD, 99.7%. By your own admission you were playing Ugly Ducks, 98.9%. But sure, just a theoretical few hundred dollar loss at your speed and denom.

But we have an accounting anomaly. How does a $300 loss per year jive with "I finished $5000 winner."

That's a running tally of all video poker lifetime, the majority of which occurred at Palms and Boyd. It includes cashback (most of which was accumulated on 10X points and up days at Boyd) but places no value on comps. It includes Palms play, most of which was on the FPDW progressive bank near the front doors and sports book, which was there for years. I am ahead at Boyd, as I knew my play year-to-year and they cut me off when most others were cut off with the change in comps and ratings. Then I stopped playing at Boyd. The cashback at Boyd included things like my one-day 11K slot machine play ($100 loss), which was a one-shot deal and boosted my cashback but, surprisingly, had zero effect on offers.

In addition, and more importantly regarding reading comprehension, I didn't say that I lost $300 per year at Boyd. I said that IF I were theoretically playing the WORST game I played anywhere for the full number of hours I played each year, which would be Boyd, then that -$300 annually (not counting cashback, comps, or drawing results) would be the PROJECTED result.

And now, if you'll excuse the semi-ridiculous penny ante history lesson, I have some gambling to do of a somewhat serious sort. Schedule and personnel evaluations, seeing who will take how much on what, those kinds of things.

Notes for people who actually care: this is all penny ante trivia featuring counts and amounts in response to a man, mickey, who avoids counts-and-amounts of any verifiable nature in both his personal history tales and ongoing discussions. It is a curious gap in his self-presentation. Dancer has routinely given counts and amounts with locales over the years.

[Don Perignom]

The analysis you posted on Wolf Run Eclipse recently was excellent and clearly shows you know exactly how to use math to make money at casinos. From the knowledge of what metrics to collect on the machine to how to crunch them shows expertise. Your analysis of Must Hit By's, other banked game slots, progressive Keno and some of the specialized VP games at Montana bars are also terrific. You worked out the correct strategy for Draw Til you Win with pencil and paper to make a lot of money on this game. Any poster calling your skill set into question is giving an utterly absurd take on your skills as an advantage player.

Does anyone here have a Wikipedia page? Other than our administrator.

I couldn't find anything on you.



I'm told I have one, but it's misspelled .

[accountinquestion]

Don't recall ever referring to myself as an expert. I've made mistakes gillions of times doing gambling math. That's why I usually go over it 3 or four times. In this case I didn't do it. But I immediately admitted I made a mistake.

The 2nd one you referred to is not a mistake at all. I said NSUD was closer to Ugly Ducks and it is. The two strategies almost mirror each other. That's because the flush and full house pay the same with the straight flush being just one off.

But ditz was still running a big deficit. Ugly Ducks is under 99%. That's a big deficit. Jean Scott did not advise him to play that game.

BTW, using a Jacks or Better game like Double Bonus to try to calculate a Deuce game like Ugly Ducks is just downright funny. I kept my mouth shut about it. Didn't criticize. But since I'm being now being criticized by the person that did it, hey what the hell?

Don't be shy, mickey. If every one of the 40 hours I spent in a year was playing NSUD at the 25-cent level, exactly how big an annual deficit was I running at 500 hands an hour?

My Jed Clampett cypherin' puts it at roughly $300. Annually. Sadly, mickey crimm is on record as considering a $300 annual loss a "big deficit."

The result of that "loss" would be 12 to 24 comped rooms, a dozen meals, and cashback. And senior drawings and all that.

Mickey emphasizes the theoretical in every post. That's because he almost never reports his actual results. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

You weren't playing NSUD, 99.7%. By your own admission you were playing Ugly Ducks, 98.9%. But sure, just a theoretical few hundred dollar loss at your speed and denom.

But we have an accounting anomaly. How does a $300 loss per year jive with "I finished $5000 winner."

The deficit is quite sizeable. 99.7 is .3% house edge and 98.9 is 1.1% house edge. That is close to 4x the rate of loss.

That is a "big deficit" when you are voluntarily giving up 3x + the house edge you need to be giving.

That is ploppy shit. That is not sharp. Or whatever you want to call it.

[accountinquestion]

Regardless, Redietz made what is easily the best thread of the month.

This and Kewl coming back from his gambling trip are probably best 2 threads this year. I'm just some bully anti-social goof on here.

I am not quality like these guys.

[tableplay]

The analysis you posted on Wolf Run Eclipse recently was excellent and clearly shows you know exactly how to use math to make money at casinos. From the knowledge of what metrics to collect on the machine to how to crunch them shows expertise. Your analysis of Must Hit By's, other banked game slots, progressive Keno and some of the specialized VP games at Montana bars are also terrific. You worked out the correct strategy for Draw Til you Win with pencil and paper to make a lot of money on this game. Any poster calling your skill set into question is giving an utterly absurd take on your skills as an advantage player.

Does anyone here have a Wikipedia page? Other than our administrator.

I couldn't find anything on you.



I'm told I have one, but it's misspelled .

I formulated my opinion based on the fact that I have made a lot of money implementing Mickey's numbers on a variety of slot machines. If you want to formulate your opinion based on something else, like reasonably assuming that the FPDW strategy was used on Ugly Ducks based on a posted timeline and knowledge of when the FPDW cards were published, who's to stop you.