Bob Dietz' Coming Appeararance On PokerFraudAlert Radio

[kewlJ]

My grinder friends like KewlJ moved to Vegas, accumulated significant bankrolls, and bought homes. You beat one sport in the 1980's, betting .7% of your meager bankroll.

I saw this comment yesterday and wasn't in a position to reply the way I wanted to. It really is amazing to me the number of grinder type APs, that have very similar stories. And i suspect most people/players find them pretty dull. Since I moved to Vegas, I have heard at least half dozen card counter types on GWAE that had very similar stories. Not sure if they all relocated to Vegas, but all started out very underfunded, with BR's in 4 figures, and built it up to a reasonable bankroll (with a little luck of not busting out).

Although Axelwolf wasn't exclusively card counting, I think his story is also similar. One does have to wonder though, for every one of us that was able to build a tiny bankroll into a decent BR and never look back, how many players busted out. 100 for each one of us? 1000?

You also used the word grinder, Kim Lee. I don't know if many people know what the real definition of grinder is. A player that plays lower to mid level stakes, and plays a lot. It is about volume of play, usually at lower or mid-level stakes, because in blackjack you can only grind at stakes that are tolerated. You can't be a grinder playing high stakes.

And if you are going to be a grinder, whether blackjack or machine play, you almost have to move to Vegas or spend a great deal of time here. There are a few like mickeycrimm that travel around "grinding", but most of us need to be where there are a lot of casinos in close proximity. And that ends up being Las Vegas. I tried my grinder act in Atlantic City but just couldn't do it for long. I guess Moses tried in Reno. You need a rotation of 30-40 or more casinos so you can really spread your play around.

[kewlJ]

Others may want verification that Munchkin's message to me is real.

Do they want verification that you received a message from Munchkin, or that the claim contained within that message is truthful?

redietz didn't call you a liar in so many words, or in any words. Harping on about this makes you look paranoid and defensive.

If we stipulate that your photo is proof of Munchkin's message, then there is claim by Munchkin, which has been refuted by redietz.

If there is no further comment from Munchkin, then there's no point in redietz continuing to comment either.

There is absolutely no reason to read anything this coach belly person posts. I have said this before and even placed him on ignore, only to undo it.

But this forum is getting more and more ridiculous. Belly, dawg and Singer should be ignored and really try not to read any of the nonsense they post because it is all 100% trolling.

[coach belly]

I asked Red what kind of money he made (average) per year and he didn't answer. I guess he could have lied

Of course your view on answering questions, as a serial liar yourself, is that he could lie, like you typically would.

Having not received an answer to your question, you just made up an answer that suits your narrative.

That's what you do.

[MDawg]

UNKewlJ being Asiatic himself, would create an Asian sock puppet.

kewlJ has also been caught in a lot of lies over time, both on this forum and elsewhere. Therefore, it is unclear if he really makes much (or anything) playing blackjack these days.

kewlJ is basically the Boy Who Cried Wolf of these AP forums. He has lied so many times that it's impossible to believe any stories he tells.

[smurgerburger]

Wait so KJ, who refuses under absolutely any circumstances to meet anyone from the forums, is now threatening to "get physical" (not in the Olivia Newton-John sense I presume) off the forums?

How would that work? It's a fight to the death so that anonymity will be preserved for the winning party? Or do we all just show up in luchador masks?

[accountinquestion]

https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post194903

Looks like it should happen.

[mickeycrimm]

My grinder friends like KewlJ moved to Vegas, accumulated significant bankrolls, and bought homes. You beat one sport in the 1980's, betting .7% of your meager bankroll.

I saw this comment yesterday and wasn't in a position to reply the way I wanted to. It really is amazing to me the number of grinder type APs, that have very similar stories. And i suspect most people/players find them pretty dull. Since I moved to Vegas, I have heard at least half dozen card counter types on GWAE that had very similar stories. Not sure if they all relocated to Vegas, but all started out very underfunded, with BR's in 4 figures, and built it up to a reasonable bankroll (with a little luck of not busting out).

Although Axelwolf wasn't exclusively card counting, I think his story is also similar. One does have to wonder though, for every one of us that was able to build a tiny bankroll into a decent BR and never look back, how many players busted out. 100 for each one of us? 1000?

You also used the word grinder, Kim Lee. I don't know if many people know what the real definition of grinder is. A player that plays lower to mid level stakes, and plays a lot. It is about volume of play, usually at lower or mid-level stakes, because in blackjack you can only grind at stakes that are tolerated. You can't be a grinder playing high stakes.

And if you are going to be a grinder, whether blackjack or machine play, you almost have to move to Vegas or spend a great deal of time here. There are a few like mickeycrimm that travel around "grinding", but most of us need to be where there are a lot of casinos in close proximity. And that ends up being Las Vegas. I tried my grinder act in Atlantic City but just couldn't do it for long. I guess Moses tried in Reno. You need a rotation of 30-40 or more casinos so you can really spread your play around.

Slot AP is not a grind. Its quick and easy. Video poker was a grind.

[redietz]

My grinder friends like KewlJ moved to Vegas, accumulated significant bankrolls, and bought homes. You beat one sport in the 1980's, betting .7% of your meager bankroll.

I saw this comment yesterday and wasn't in a position to reply the way I wanted to. It really is amazing to me the number of grinder type APs, that have very similar stories. And i suspect most people/players find them pretty dull. Since I moved to Vegas, I have heard at least half dozen card counter types on GWAE that had very similar stories. Not sure if they all relocated to Vegas, but all started out very underfunded, with BR's in 4 figures, and built it up to a reasonable bankroll (with a little luck of not busting out).

Although Axelwolf wasn't exclusively card counting, I think his story is also similar. One does have to wonder though, for every one of us that was able to build a tiny bankroll into a decent BR and never look back, how many players busted out. 100 for each one of us? 1000?

You also used the word grinder, Kim Lee. I don't know if many people know what the real definition of grinder is. A player that plays lower to mid level stakes, and plays a lot. It is about volume of play, usually at lower or mid-level stakes, because in blackjack you can only grind at stakes that are tolerated. You can't be a grinder playing high stakes.

And if you are going to be a grinder, whether blackjack or machine play, you almost have to move to Vegas or spend a great deal of time here. There are a few like mickeycrimm that travel around "grinding", but most of us need to be where there are a lot of casinos in close proximity. And that ends up being Las Vegas. I tried my grinder act in Atlantic City but just couldn't do it for long. I guess Moses tried in Reno. You need a rotation of 30-40 or more casinos so you can really spread your play around.

Slot AP is not a grind. Its quick and easy. Video poker was a grind.

It's been my life experience, as someone who spent 100 days a year in LV for decades, that most of the people who say "they are grinding" actually mean, well, you can guess.

For example, and I may be wrong, so video poker and LVA experts please correct me, I have never heard or read Bob Dancer referring to what he does as "grinding." I think the old, colloquial interpretation of the word "grinding" has very little to do with a correlation with "winning." People who are winning usually report that they are "winning," not "grinding."

Now my personal experience is, of course, extremely limited, but I pass along my life experience when it comes to gambling language interpretation. Not everyone is kewlJ, coasting along while grinding at everything.

[Rob.Singer]

There's no need to argue that red. And why bring up kew when it comes to anything worth discussing?

[jdaewoo]

Why isn't this retard pretending he can afford an RV?

[kewlJ]

I saw this comment yesterday and wasn't in a position to reply the way I wanted to. It really is amazing to me the number of grinder type APs, that have very similar stories. And i suspect most people/players find them pretty dull. Since I moved to Vegas, I have heard at least half dozen card counter types on GWAE that had very similar stories. Not sure if they all relocated to Vegas, but all started out very underfunded, with BR's in 4 figures, and built it up to a reasonable bankroll (with a little luck of not busting out).

Although Axelwolf wasn't exclusively card counting, I think his story is also similar. One does have to wonder though, for every one of us that was able to build a tiny bankroll into a decent BR and never look back, how many players busted out. 100 for each one of us? 1000?

You also used the word grinder, Kim Lee. I don't know if many people know what the real definition of grinder is. A player that plays lower to mid level stakes, and plays a lot. It is about volume of play, usually at lower or mid-level stakes, because in blackjack you can only grind at stakes that are tolerated. You can't be a grinder playing high stakes.

And if you are going to be a grinder, whether blackjack or machine play, you almost have to move to Vegas or spend a great deal of time here. There are a few like mickeycrimm that travel around "grinding", but most of us need to be where there are a lot of casinos in close proximity. And that ends up being Las Vegas. I tried my grinder act in Atlantic City but just couldn't do it for long. I guess Moses tried in Reno. You need a rotation of 30-40 or more casinos so you can really spread your play around.

Slot AP is not a grind. Its quick and easy. Video poker was a grind.

It's been my life experience, as someone who spent 100 days a year in LV for decades, that most of the people who say "they are grinding" actually mean, well, you can guess.

For example, and I may be wrong, so video poker and LVA experts please correct me, I have never heard or read Bob Dancer referring to what he does as "grinding." I think the old, colloquial interpretation of the word "grinding" has very little to do with a correlation with "winning." People who are winning usually report that they are "winning," not "grinding."

Now my personal experience is, of course, extremely limited, but I pass along my life experience when it comes to gambling language interpretation. Not everyone is kewlJ, coasting along while grinding at everything.

Every real AP knows and understands what the term "grinding" means. That Mr. Dietz doesn't says all you need to know.

[MDawg]

Please tell me that this entire routine of yours is a years-long troll job. At least that I could respect.

[redietz]

There's no need to argue that red. And why bring up kew when it comes to anything worth discussing?

True dat.

[mickeycrimm]

I saw this comment yesterday and wasn't in a position to reply the way I wanted to. It really is amazing to me the number of grinder type APs, that have very similar stories. And i suspect most people/players find them pretty dull. Since I moved to Vegas, I have heard at least half dozen card counter types on GWAE that had very similar stories. Not sure if they all relocated to Vegas, but all started out very underfunded, with BR's in 4 figures, and built it up to a reasonable bankroll (with a little luck of not busting out).

Although Axelwolf wasn't exclusively card counting, I think his story is also similar. One does have to wonder though, for every one of us that was able to build a tiny bankroll into a decent BR and never look back, how many players busted out. 100 for each one of us? 1000?

You also used the word grinder, Kim Lee. I don't know if many people know what the real definition of grinder is. A player that plays lower to mid level stakes, and plays a lot. It is about volume of play, usually at lower or mid-level stakes, because in blackjack you can only grind at stakes that are tolerated. You can't be a grinder playing high stakes.

And if you are going to be a grinder, whether blackjack or machine play, you almost have to move to Vegas or spend a great deal of time here. There are a few like mickeycrimm that travel around "grinding", but most of us need to be where there are a lot of casinos in close proximity. And that ends up being Las Vegas. I tried my grinder act in Atlantic City but just couldn't do it for long. I guess Moses tried in Reno. You need a rotation of 30-40 or more casinos so you can really spread your play around.

Slot AP is not a grind. Its quick and easy. Video poker was a grind.

It's been my life experience, as someone who spent 100 days a year in LV for decades, that most of the people who say "they are grinding" actually mean, well, you can guess.

For example, and I may be wrong, so video poker and LVA experts please correct me, I have never heard or read Bob Dancer referring to what he does as "grinding." I think the old, colloquial interpretation of the word "grinding" has very little to do with a correlation with "winning." People who are winning usually report that they are "winning," not "grinding."

Now my personal experience is, of course, extremely limited, but I pass along my life experience when it comes to gambling language interpretation. Not everyone is kewlJ, coasting along while grinding at everything.

Redietz used to live in the grind joints like the Gold Spike.

[redietz]

Slot AP is not a grind. Its quick and easy. Video poker was a grind.

It's been my life experience, as someone who spent 100 days a year in LV for decades, that most of the people who say "they are grinding" actually mean, well, you can guess.

For example, and I may be wrong, so video poker and LVA experts please correct me, I have never heard or read Bob Dancer referring to what he does as "grinding." I think the old, colloquial interpretation of the word "grinding" has very little to do with a correlation with "winning." People who are winning usually report that they are "winning," not "grinding."

Now my personal experience is, of course, extremely limited, but I pass along my life experience when it comes to gambling language interpretation. Not everyone is kewlJ, coasting along while grinding at everything.

Redietz used to live in the grind joints like the Gold Spike.

LOL. You say that like it's a bad thing. I know; I know. I love the Gold Spike. You got a phone at the desk you could take up to your room (can't have people wandering off with phones). Great place; 2-for-1 meals. Had good mashed and meat loaf.

I never took mickey for a snob. Tsk tsk. I thought we were proletariat brothers, mickey.

[MDawg]

Do whatever bullshit you do, KewlJ(s). Just leave threads regarding real people in Las Vegas alone. Especially when you have zero -- nada -- to contribute. You just have to make some banal, no-detail comment (as usual) because why? Probably because your complete lack of detail and experience regarding real people and events stand out like repetitive sore thumbs.

[AxelWolf]

I saw this comment yesterday and wasn't in a position to reply the way I wanted to. It really is amazing to me the number of grinder type APs, that have very similar stories. And i suspect most people/players find them pretty dull. Since I moved to Vegas, I have heard at least half dozen card counter types on GWAE that had very similar stories. Not sure if they all relocated to Vegas, but all started out very underfunded, with BR's in 4 figures, and built it up to a reasonable bankroll (with a little luck of not busting out).

Although Axelwolf wasn't exclusively card counting, I think his story is also similar. One does have to wonder though, for every one of us that was able to build a tiny bankroll into a decent BR and never look back, how many players busted out. 100 for each one of us? 1000?

You also used the word grinder, Kim Lee. I don't know if many people know what the real definition of grinder is. A player that plays lower to mid level stakes, and plays a lot. It is about volume of play, usually at lower or mid-level stakes, because in blackjack you can only grind at stakes that are tolerated. You can't be a grinder playing high stakes.

And if you are going to be a grinder, whether blackjack or machine play, you almost have to move to Vegas or spend a great deal of time here. There are a few like mickeycrimm that travel around "grinding", but most of us need to be where there are a lot of casinos in close proximity. And that ends up being Las Vegas. I tried my grinder act in Atlantic City but just couldn't do it for long. I guess Moses tried in Reno. You need a rotation of 30-40 or more casinos so you can really spread your play around.

Slot AP is not a grind. Its quick and easy. Video poker was a grind.

It's been my life experience, as someone who spent 100 days a year in LV for decades, that most of the people who say "they are grinding" actually mean, well, you can guess.

For example, and I may be wrong, so video poker and LVA experts please correct me, I have never heard or read Bob Dancer referring to what he does as "grinding." I think the old, colloquial interpretation of the word "grinding" has very little to do with a correlation with "winning." People who are winning usually report that they are "winning," not "grinding."

Now my personal experience is, of course, extremely limited, but I pass along my life experience when it comes to gambling language interpretation. Not everyone is kewlJ, coasting along while grinding at everything.

I think grinding refers to someone playing lower limits for medium to longer hours at a low to moderate hourly rate.

A guy putting in 5+ hours a day on .25 - .50 Full pay DW would be a grinder. A guy doing the same thing but on $5 and above denominations wouldn't be a grider.

A poker player playing 1-2 NL and 2-5 NL for 5+ hours a day would be a grinder. A guy playing $25 $50 wouldn't be a grinder

[AxelWolf]

Redietz

Someone asked>>> Dan Druff: What happened to this redietz interview with you on your podcast?

We can do it this month if he likes.

The ball is in your court, Redietz. What's that saying? SHIT OR GET OFF THE POT!

[Rob.Singer]

C'mon guys--he doesn't want to do it. If he did it would have been done long ago.

Druff should instead interview ME. It would get 12X the listeners, the subject matter would be like sticker shock to the regular Joe's out there, and just as was with my GT columns for 8 years, it would garner more interest than when Spock finally got laid.

[The Boz]

C'mon guys--he doesn't want to do it. If he did it would have been done long ago.

Druff should instead interview ME. It would get 12X the listeners, the subject matter would be like sticker shock to the regular Joe's out there, and just as was with my GT columns for 8 years, it would garner more interest than when Spock finally got laid.

On this I agree.

However you are now locked in with RED on the MDawg defense team. Strange bedfellows these forums make.