My Apologies to MDawg and coach belly

[redietz]

I didn't follow all of the posts, but I never thought that Kim Lee and kewlJ were the same person or were sharing posts and writing and all that. But, the more the posts get examined, well, there's a good chance I'm a real dumb-ass.

I find it hard to believe the lack of substance/details and reliance on declarative statements without evidence are a simple coincidence. My naivete has, I must admit, embarrassed and surprised me. I guess when Kim Lee began making declarative statements that were dead wrong that I finally heard echoes of kewlJ. Academics, in general, don't go making declarative statements in public without some kind of evidence; they'd get ripped to shreds doing that in a paper or at a conference. But KewlJ does that all the time. No evidence for the rants; just a reliance on "I know how things work." And we should trust him.

How the hell did you two figure out there was some kind of forum cross-pollination between the two handles? I just didn't see it at all until "Kim Lee" started the dead wrong declarations. Did you run a program comparing content/style? No, don't tell me. I feel dumb enough as it is.

I need to restrict my responses to real people or people I've met. The weird resonance between the KewlJ and Kim Lee handles is at the far end of credibility. Why would an established semi-professional gambler declare things he has completely wrong? I have no answer. And why would an academic import my comment regarding Mike Lee and try to attach it to Billy Walters and Fezzik with no reason to do so?

Now KewlJ, similarly, does this kind of thing all the time. You debunk him six ways and he comes back with a response to your weakest of the six. He ignores the other five and hopes everyone else does. Kim Lee, when confronted with the fact he had completely wrong information regarding the Wise Guys, doesn't apologize for declaring things that he got utterly wrong (like, say, describing something as having 10 participants when it sometimes had 70 or 80 and usually had 40-some). Kim Lee just goes on to the next thing while ignoring what he got wrong. You can't really do that in academia.

Bizarre stuff. If you two have a moment and want to enlighten me as to what tipped you off to the possible kewlJ/Kim Lee posting incest, please do. Very rarely do academics declare things they really have zero idea regarding, but Kim Lee does that as if he knows his stuff. And he obviously does not.

That whole idea that Mr. Walters employed me as a runner is so out there. I saw runners in the Stardust all the time. Half of them looked like burly bikers with sidearms. What a strange theory. How does one come up with that? Are you misinformed or just making shit up?

Anyway, I bow to MDawg and coach. I can't believe you two saw this coming and I did not at all. I need to stay in my lane. Forensic online analysis is obviously not my thing.

[MDawg]

It didn't take long but I found the connection between KimLee's posts and UNKewlJ's that establishes that either they are the same person, or share the exact same lack of education. So far I see no one else on this site that shares the same precise grammatical ignorance.

[MDawg]

I PM'ed you (among a coterie of others) the forensic evidence. Best to keep it confidential because this is the same sort of evidence that outed UNKewlJ as his sock Magister, BeachedWhale as the dastard who was posting on Tater/Moses' memorial wall, etc.

You will also note that rather than simply saying that "it ain't so" UNKewlJ is trying to use his stand by of "it can't be so" as a defense, the same sort of approach he kept using to try to defend the backrooming fable until it became painfully obvious the whole thing was a lie.

Now in regards to Kim Lee. Kim Lee is talking about shit long ago from the world of sports betting / sports scamicapping. A time before I was even born.

And this sort of nonsense pops up occasionally, and not one of these players in the UNKewl fable has ever been identified:

Over the years, I have networked and communicated privately with a number blackjack advantage players, both professional and recreational.

There is a clear trend that has developed now. All of KewlJ's implied associates are turning out to be other invented characters in his years of lies. ...RIP

[jdaewoo]

Why isn't this retard out winning 80% of his tie bets?

[kewlJ]

Wait what now? MDOG is suggesting that I was the sockpuppet that went by beached Whale and posted on Moses memorial wall? Good lord. First, I had no, absolutely zero problem with Beachbumbabs. Never had any kind of issue with her, that I can recall, and no reason to make a nasty sock puppet of that name. I have a couple people in mind that I thought it might have been who did have issues with her. At the top of that list was our old friend Maxpen. If it wasn't him, it was right up his alley.

As for any post on Moses memorial, I only became aware of that when someone directed us to it. (maybe Tasha). I do some trolling, especially in response to people that troll me. But I would never do that kind of thing. His friends and family would have seen that. Just not something I would be comfortable doing.

On top of that, the day Moses came clean about some things on his death bed, like what he had made counting cards in Reno (about 10k a years), apologized to me for some things said, went a long way towards ending any issue I had/have with him. I mean he did troll me for 10 years, with lies and threats on half dozen forums or so, so I haven't forgotten that, but I would say 80% forgiven. It is a process. But I would never write something on someone's memorial wall that their family and friends would see in regards to internet forum shit. Although before my time, Rob used his platform in that gambling rag to do that, trash someone after they had passed, knowing his family would read it. THAT is a special kind of nasty/evil.


Now is it any surprise Mdog just admitted to PMing people behind the scenes yet again? he has a long history of that, even caught here by Dan Druff PMing people how to vote on a silly poll, which is why polls here are meaningless. Also comes back to the point of what kind of narcistic, obsessed person does that shit? A millionaire, winning gambler? Please!!!!

And finally, Kim Lee again. Kim Lee is commenting, expressing his opinion as an expert, which Redietz invited him here to do, about things that are just way before my times. That we are the same person or even I am feeding him information is beyond bat crazy. But par for the bat crazy trolls on this forum.

[MDawg]

I don't whine like a fairy and have my panties in a bunch, like a repetitive whining UNKOOL poster.

[pinchingyourballs]

Kewl, as I have often asked Tasha, why do you care so much about the reputation of your anonymous online forum persona? You two seem to have a similar kind of internet addiction where you feel the need to protect these personae like your children or pets and are constantly getting offended on behalf of these fictional constructs. "kewlJ" isn't real. Maybe you should get a cat or something.

[MDawg]

I really don't care what people think about me.

[coach belly]

what tipped you off to the possible kewlJ/Kim Lee posting incest

The sudden flurry of posting after 5 years of inactivity was suspicious.

I applied the "why would a successful so-and-so get involved with VCT?" paradox to the stochastic model.

Maybe he's one of tewlj's johns, and tewlj is blackmailing him.

[kewlJ]

Kewl, as I have often asked Tasha, why do you care so much about the reputation of your anonymous online forum persona?

Because I am NOT an anonymous online persona. I am a real person, real advantage player, that happens to use a handle instead of my name which many in the AP community actually know. And many APs actually know me, or who I am, even though I have only met and introduced myself to a few.

You are confusing trying to remain anonymous, vs being real.

[MDawg]

The real problem FraudJ is you're a verified fraud. It's not a witch hunt. It's truth exposed....RIP

[redietz]

what tipped you off to the possible kewlJ/Kim Lee posting incest

The sudden flurry of posting after 5 years of inactivity was suspicious.

I applied the "why would a successful so-and-so get involved with VCT?" paradox to the stochastic model.

Maybe he's one of tewlj's johns, and tewlj is blackmailing him.

Well, whatever the situation, I was dead wrong. Yeah, sudden flurrying -- oh man, I am a true idiot. It's amazing how fucking stupid I can be. God, how I cross the street is a wonder of nature.

And now that I think about it, the "new" intro kewlJ provided for Kim Lee was amazingly like an updated version of KewlJ's recent play, too. What a coincidence.

Boy, I need to seriously wake up and smell some coffee. Hats off to you and MDawg, coach. Sometimes I am blind as a bat sans radar.

[pinchingyourballs]

Kewl, as I have often asked Tasha, why do you care so much about the reputation of your anonymous online forum persona?

Because I am NOT an anonymous online persona. I am a real person, real advantage player, that happens to use a handle instead of my name which many in the AP community actually know. And many APs actually know me, or who I am, even though I have only met and introduced myself to a few.

You are confusing trying to remain anonymous, vs being real.

None of your online activity is ancillary to your supposed professional gambling career. You can do whatever it is you do in the real world without having to write all these paragraphs all the time. And no, your anonymous kewlJ persona is not real. Log off and set yourself free, dude.

[MDawg]

The reason he posts so much is because he never feels as if his lies are getting across to anyone, and that bothers him. Someone who lives such a concocted virtual life on internet gaming forums just CANNOT have that.

When you get to the point of creating sock puppets to get your concocted point across, you have really gone off the deep end.

[kewlJ]

What are you talking about?

Do you even know the history of Kim Lee and myself. We had a bit of a feud for a short time. A little bad blood, back at BJ21. I don't even remember what it was about. I think some of the 'experienced' guys thought I was coming on like some young whippersnapper know it all and didn't appreciate it. One guy even called me young whippersnapper for several years.

But then Kim Lee and I spoke privately (PM or email) and I learned who he was and learned some things he had done from both he and others, some thinking out side the box type shit and we became friends. Not great friend, as I hadn't communicated with him in 7 years prior to last week, but internet friend.

I didn't even know of any of Kim Lee's history or interests involving sports betting until last week.

What I do know is he is a real AP, an expert AP, who can figure out who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking. I am not surprised what he concluded about you Red. It is the exact same thing all of the real APs on this forum have concluded.

[MDawg]

You will also note that rather than simply saying that "it ain't so" UNKewlJ is trying to use his stand by of "it can't be so" as a defense, the same sort of approach he kept using to try to defend the backrooming fable until it became painfully obvious the whole thing was a lie.

With sociopaths it's all about what they need at the moment. It is now evidently clear that this is what we are dealing with when it comes to this fraud.

[MDawg]

What I do know is he is a real AP, an expert AP, who can figure out who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking.

Dan Druff simply shares his expert opinion of what the truth is. he has been on these forums for a very long time and knows how to read people.

the king of lying

has been

making his life about lying on forums.

[kewlJ]

MDOG can you name one advantage player on either this forum or WoV, that believes your silly stories and claims?

yeah, you can name Tasha, and coach belly and singer, and now I guess redietz has joined the club. None of which are real APs. So just one non troll that believes your claims and is willing to say so.

remember Dog stared out this wealthy, sophisticated guy, big player, big winning player, big tipper (even in countries where tipping isn't a thing).

And look at you now Dog. You have proven to be as big a troll, telling gambling bullshit stories as Rob Singer. Who even though that possible? But that is your legacy, despite the delusional alternative reality you live in.

[MDawg]

Unfortunately, you change/insert major details, and then end up claiming things which sound unlikely/impossible, which then leads to people putting in the work to disprove it, which then leads to you first acting outraged for being questioned, and then ultimately admitting you fibbed.

It's been the same song for years. Nobody else seems to have this issue on these gambling/AP forums. Ever wonder why?

[kewlJ]

Ok, we are taking Mom out to an early Mother's day dinner. I am sure you will be discussing the same shit when I return in 4-5 hours. Looking forward to the name of just one real advantage player, that believes your stories/claims Dog.