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This guy acctinQ has pretty much followed in redietz footsteps thinking he is smarter and has higher IQ than everyone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
Actually my net worth is in excess of 200,000,000 cents.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Do you seriously think that a lightweight such as yourself has more cents than me?
Bwa ha ha ha...dream on.
The guys that think they are the smartest in the room, NEVER are. :rolleyes:
How cute, coach belly STILL trying with his "gottch ya moments". :DQuote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyHow many trials are significant such that it would demonstrate a rigged shuffle?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
How can you track a significant number of trials, if you are exiting the casino after showing your max bet?
I tracked over 200 shoes at El cortez that I wasn't playing in. I don't know if shoes is the right word since we are talking double deck but EC DD is dealt from a shoe, so it works. But to be more specific over 200 times through the 2 decks until the shuffle.
I actually wasn't counting blackjacks like I mentioned earlier. That would be the easiest way to detect if the cards were arranged in anon-random way, but I was specifically looking for un-natural clumping, so what I did was count using hi-lo, every card just as if I was playing. I wanted to see how many of the "shoes" or times through the 2 decks went to either an unusually high or unusually low count. Depending on where the clump of 10 value cards were it could be either. (again read Dan Druffs excellent explanation as to this).
I then presented my findings to Don Schlesinger, who knows a thing or two about blackjack math. I believe 92% of shoes (maybe 94%, I forget) or times through the 2 decks reach a true count of either + or - 4. I knew that was way more than normal. Schlesinger confirmed as much. I think the normal range was 60 some percent.
Again read through Dan Druffs comments above to see just how clumping of 10 value can harm the player in a number of different ways. And that is before you get into the reduced blackjack from the section where there are fewer 10 value cards because of the clumping.
I really don't have a desire to go over this all again. I have moved on from it, although I still try to be vigilant when playing ASM.
In the end, what do I think I accomplished with exposing this. Well the 2 newer ASM (at the time) at El Cortez disappeared shortly after I made the post at Norms forum and someone else took the discussion to WoV. there were also a few other discussion and accusations of the same machines at around that same time, although not as detailed as the discussion I am responsible or linked to. And not to strain a muscle patting myself on the back, but together I think it may have slowed the spread of this activity. The small number of casinos that may have been willing to attempt to cheat in this manner, may have concluded it wouldn't be as easy to pull it off as they might have initially though.
Anyway, it is what it is. The next time some casinos have the opportunity to cheat blackjack or otherwise, (which has probably already occurred) probably at least some will do so. THAT is the nature of the business and who we are dealing with. All we as APs can hope for is to stay up to date and educated on the possibilities and be vigilant.
Can you explain the logistics of this tracking process?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Did you back-count over 200 shoes? How long did that take?
Wasn't it suspicious, for a frequent non-rated player to behave that way without drawing attention?
Took weeks. probably was suspicious, but so what? By the time I had decided to engage in this I was invested and determined to see it through. Either prove myself right or wrong. I would have been just as happy to have proven myself wrong as I did at South Point several years later when I though they were cheating in a different manner. If you begin to suspect you may have a dishonest game, you have to find out for sure. Either that or stop playing altogether.
That's too ambiguous to evaluate the viability of the process.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Did you keep track in a notebook?
You see how nervous kew got V. That's how I know he knows that I know who he is etc. And how I learned about him isn't illegal. There was a warrant issued after he threatened to kill me (it would have been fun to see him try :) ). Can't say much more. When kew has to write multiple longass posts after being shaken like this, it ought to tell you why.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterVYou too?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
My inquiry to you is the same as to AIQ: HOW did you "learn" the salient details to establish his identity?
I don't really care what his name is; my interest is in learning how a man so intent on maintaining anonymity as KJ is somehow left enough bread crumbs that both you and AIQ followed him through the scary forest to the witch's hovel.
BTW, which one is Hansel and which is Gretel?
Kew is and has always been a phony, who lives his virtual life out on the internet. I had him pegged from the very beginning, which threw him sideways. Then he made the mistake of publicly threatening me. Why else do you think he just wants everybody to believe his lies about me.
Oh PLEASE! :D Freaking nut job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
What name was on the warrant and where was it served (what address) You have my permission to say. goofball.
One more. Can you post a picture of said warrant, so we can see if the signature is in the same handwriting as all 3 signatures on the Newell bill of sale. You know the one with no letterhead. :D
Is this warrant on a blank piece of paper too?
Those machines are regulated by gaming and highly proprietary. I saw the stuff on wired some timeQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJQuote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Nobody has to disassemble, and reverse engineer anything. Where do you get this shit from?
I'll tell you what. As a starting point, watch some of the videos mickeycrimm posted right after the latest poker scandal broke involving these machines. With access to the machines the re-programing or altering can occur within minutes. the hard part is access to the machines. And in the case of altering being done by a casino or casino emplyee, that access is unfettered.
Ago and no they got the thing to talk to them and acknowledge a usb connection or some shit. They never controlled it. I went to a very solid university and have EE and CS both in my degree. I understand this shit and you have but a foggy idea of the concepts. I had a job as a software architect for a fintech startup as last real job where I was paid by a sallary or hourly. And they fucked with it for weeks. It is likely the code is signed or requires physical access at the board level. Previously you acted like it was some mode or code that was hacked. You really have no idea.
I was a hacker as a kid before I sorta bored of computers and wasted my life away as a mediocre gambler.
You simply don't know enough to know what you don't know.
I'm not going to brag much I feel a need to counter your bullshit about me being a phoney or not knowing quite well what I speak about. I know gambling and code and can keep up with almost all convos outside of newer techs.
You're not going to make yourself look better by arguing with me.
Get help.
I don't even know where to start with this 200 shoes business.
Sorry smurger, unless you have something really interesting to add, I am not that interested in re-hashing something for 7 years ago, that is irrelevant to me now.Quote:
Originally Posted by smurgerburger
Not when Rob dropped a bombshell about a warrent for my arrest I am dying to hear about. :D (but of course won't)
You're a good bullshitter but you get too much into details. This is the kinda well written bullshit thst had me repeating your nonsense. Even if you contacted schesslinger- your made up nonsense would have been believable to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJHow cute, coach belly STILL trying with his "gottch ya moments". :DQuote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyHow many trials are significant such that it would demonstrate a rigged shuffle?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
How can you track a significant number of trials, if you are exiting the casino after showing your max bet?
I tracked over 200 shoes at El cortez that I wasn't playing in. I don't know if shoes is the right word since we are talking double deck but EC DD is dealt from a shoe, so it works. But to be more specific over 200 times through the 2 decks until the shuffle.
I actually wasn't counting blackjacks like I mentioned earlier. That would be the easiest way to detect if the cards were arranged in anon-random way, but I was specifically looking for un-natural clumping, so what I did was count using hi-lo, every card just as if I was playing. I wanted to see how many of the "shoes" or times through the 2 decks went to either an unusually high or unusually low count. Depending on where the clump of 10 value cards were it could be either. (again read Dan Druffs excellent explanation as to this).
I then presented my findings to Don Schlesinger, who knows a thing or two about blackjack math. I believe 92% of shoes (maybe 94%, I forget) or times through the 2 decks reach a true count of either + or - 4. I knew that was way more than normal. Schlesinger confirmed as much. I think the normal range was 60 some percent.
Again read through Dan Druffs comments above to see just how clumping of 10 value can harm the player in a number of different ways. And that is before you get into the reduced blackjack from the section where there are fewer 10 value cards because of the clumping.
I really don't have a desire to go over this all again. I have moved on from it, although I still try to be vigilant when playing ASM.
In the end, what do I think I accomplished with exposing this. Well the 2 newer ASM (at the time) at El Cortez disappeared shortly after I made the post at Norms forum and someone else took the discussion to WoV. there were also a few other discussion and accusations of the same machines at around that same time, although not as detailed as the discussion I am responsible or linked to. And not to strain a muscle patting myself on the back, but together I think it may have slowed the spread of this activity. The small number of casinos that may have been willing to attempt to cheat in this manner, may have concluded it wouldn't be as easy to pull it off as they might have initially though.
Anyway, it is what it is. The next time some casinos have the opportunity to cheat blackjack or otherwise, (which has probably already occurred) probably at least some will do so. THAT is the nature of the business and who we are dealing with. All we as APs can hope for is to stay up to date and educated on the possibilities and be vigilant.
See the big difference is these other guys tell tales and shoot for the moon. Your whole thing is to not have crazy tales and just be believable. There is a distinct differences in motivations if like you say Mdawg and Rob bs.
To this day no one had acknowledged meeting you who doesn't seem like another shit stirring troll like myself.
This is why I have a problem with it. I don't like to not knowing what I'm talking about. You were good enough to have me believing. You made me lose credibility. Those other guys IDGAF.
Get help.
I wish I had listened to you earlier on. I jad to figure it out mostly on my own. The hard way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerYou see how nervous kew got V. That's how I know he knows that I know who he is etc. And how I learned about him isn't illegal. There was a warrant issued after he threatened to kill me (it would have been fun to see him try :) ). Can't say much more. When kew has to write multiple longass posts after being shaken like this, it ought to tell you why.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterVYou too?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
My inquiry to you is the same as to AIQ: HOW did you "learn" the salient details to establish his identity?
I don't really care what his name is; my interest is in learning how a man so intent on maintaining anonymity as KJ is somehow left enough bread crumbs that both you and AIQ followed him through the scary forest to the witch's hovel.
BTW, which one is Hansel and which is Gretel?
Kew is and has always been a phony, who lives his virtual life out on the internet. I had him pegged from the very beginning, which threw him sideways. Then he made the mistake of publicly threatening me. Why else do you think he just wants everybody to believe his lies about me.
Lol
Good idea. Smurger is a very knowledgeable AP. He was smart enough to skip card counting.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJSorry smurger, unless you have something really interesting to add, I am not that interested in re-hashing something for 7 years ago, that is irrelevant to me now.Quote:
Originally Posted by smurgerburger
Not when Rob dropped a bombshell about a warrent for my arrest I am dying to hear about. :D (but of course won't)
Counting is a great weekend warrior AP thing. Especially if you like to gamble. Infinite books out there. I couldn't and can't do it but for specific reasons I'm not going to get into. But EVwise it blows and no one stays Iin action like Kewl. You gotta drive around but of course kewl doesn't really do that. Too hard to bullshit. He can basically walk around LV all day and spend nothing.
Just to be clear before Dawg or someone goes hounding Don S (<- see what I did there with "hound"). My conversation with Don that day was not specific to the ASM. I have no idea his feeling on that. The discussion was about the math. 'What percentage of shoes in a 2 deck, 60% pen game should reach TC +/- 4'? I did tell him what percentage of the games I tracked that I suspected clumping reached +/-4 and he confirmed that was way high.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
So I am a good writer now? A good writer of bullshit. Everyone knows I am NOT a good writer. I have a difficult time communicating what I want.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
The fact is there is nothing to really write than needs good 'copy'. I am just telling my story, which is real which is why they usually come off believable except when people have a bias like you do.
Your later post about you should have listened to Rob Singer really says everything anyone needs to know about you. Fool.
Seriously, I am really interested to know how this crossover from normal poster on the forum to drinking the kool-aid and getting in bed with Singer/dawg works. Dietz did it and now you have done so.
I don't know what you are going through in your older age AcctinQ, but for God sakes STOP drinking the kool-aid.
Still waiting Rob!!! tick tock.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJOh PLEASE! :D Freaking nut job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
What name was on the warrant and where was it served (what address) You have my permission to say. goofball.
One more. Can you post a picture of said warrant, so we can see if the signature is in the same handwriting as all 3 signatures on the Newell bill of sale. You know the one with no letterhead. :D
Is this warrant on a blank piece of paper too?
In this country, the 6th amendment guarantees the right to confront your accuser. Rob has made the claim that there was a warrent issued for my arrest. he should have to fill in some details. I have that right. dan Druff should force him to or retract the statement as a lie.
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Originally Posted by smurgerburger
Full disclosure: I have requested that Dan Druff Make Rob produce this warrant and my name and where it was served. As the accused, I think I have a right to that, even though we all know it is more Rob Singer Bullshit.
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Originally Posted by jdog
In the words if DJT... "Quiet piggy". ( or maybe sand niggy).
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Originally Posted by mcap
Yea I understood. Like I said that was quality bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJJust to be clear before Dawg or someone goes hounding Don S (<- see what I did there with "hound"). My conversation with Don that day was not specific to the ASM. I have no idea his feeling on that. The discussion was about the math. 'What percentage of shoes in a 2 deck, 60% pen game should reach TC +/- 4'? I did tell him what percentage of the games I tracked that I suspected clumping reached +/-4 and he confirmed that was way high.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Your problem is when you couldn't just live in your basic bj bullshit bubble. You left it behind.
Your skill is presenting yourself as having some mundane existence to further this con. You are far more about longterm. I'm not sure. It is interesting how your motivations differ. You want respect but your approach is just very different. You were happy to be believed as the mundane in the gambling world. Perhaps you are the same it is just a matter of your starting line. You just want to be part of some AP brotherhood. Anyway I'm drunk but had you not used the word when I was sober I wouldn't have spent the effort to dissect you. You are only interesting in the way a zoologist observes and studies the animals. I barely drink but giving you an excuse to play off. LolQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJSo I am a good writer now? A good writer of bullshit. Everyone knows I am NOT a good writer. I have a difficult time communicating what I want.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
The fact is there is nothing to really write than needs good 'copy'. I am just telling my story, which is real which is why they usually come off believable except when people have a bias like you do.
Your later post about you should have listened to Rob Singer really says everything anyone needs to know about you. Fool.
Seriously, I am really interested to know how this crossover from normal poster on the forum to drinking the kool-aid and getting in bed with Singer/dawg works. Dietz did it and now you have done so.
I don't know what you are going through in your older age AcctinQ, but for God sakes STOP drinking the kool-aid.
You need it.
Get help
Of course you are. Nothing new there.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
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Originally Posted by MaxPen
You know what is clown world-ish? Some camel fucker, turban head, claiming he has won 10's of millions of dollars playing table games in Las Vegas, for 7-8 years now, playing RATED, with absolutely no countermeasures and on the contrary the casinos comping him high end suites for weeks and months at a time.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
Alice in wonderland, Cinderella, Jack and the beanstalk. None of these fairytales have anything on this bullshit fairytale the sand nigger continues to push.
Dawg is a losing degen type gambler. He gambles. Loses. And is comped accordingly. And lives off not only his own comps that that of his higher rolling losing family and friends. And those over-priced, over-valued comps aren't freebies as he claims. He and his other losing gambling associates paid for everything he gets, with their losses totaling many, many times the value of those over-prced comps.
THAT is the way Las Vegas works and that is the real story of this Adventures of Mdawgs. End of fairytale!!
Nope. I haven't bothered drinking in weeks but went by bar and had 2 drinks. Not even really drunk.. but hey if people want to believe your lalaland bullshit then feel free. I'm not sure why you said I was drunk orignally but you had no out but to attack. . Flailing about and had to grab something.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJOf course you are. Nothing new there.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
I'm done picking on you. Go back to your Alice in Wonderland world.
And ..
get help
WTF?!? This guy says "I am drunk".
40 minutes later he says "I don't know why you think I am drunk. I haven't drank in weeks".
YOU get some help acctinQ! Try AA.
You are on ignore account. Bad enough I have to deal with these fucktard trolls all playing games. I am not going to deal with a drunk nutjob as well that can't remember what he said 40 minutes ago.
Happy Thanksgiving, Merry Christmas. Make yourself some super strong egg nog.
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Originally Posted by MDawgQuote:
Originally Posted by ZenKinG
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Originally Posted by MDawg
Start with this quote...Quote:
Originally Posted by smurgerburger
tewlj's description of his investigation defies and contradicts everything he has written about his measures to maintain a low profile, stay above suspicion, and protect his anonymity.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Instead he claims to have spent weeks back-counting the DD game at a sweatbox in order to prove something to himself.
This guy can't help digging himself into a hole, and then he jumps in and keeps digging.
The 6th amendment applies to criminal defendants.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
There is nothing illegal about standing behind a game watching. It doesn't become "back counting" until you attempt to jump into that game, which I never did while I was gathering information.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly
If there is/was a warrant for my arrest, then I would be a defendant. And if that warrant was a result of a complaint filed by Rob, then he would be the accuser, idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyThe 6th amendment applies to criminal defendants.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Now I know there was no warrant. I was never served. You know there was no warrant. Everyone knows there was no warrant. But if Rob is claiming there was, then he should be able to provide the name on the warrant and where it was served or attempted to be served.
belly, I recognized you were playing your typical coach belly "gottch ya" games hours ago. You were attempting to be somewhat respectful, when you could barely contain yourself. Everyone knew what you were doing. I allowed you to do it.
But let me ask you this. You play these "gottch ya" games with every AP on this forum. Ask question searching for something you perceive as an inconstancy so you can pounce.
Just wondering why you have never questioned Dawgs claim that he has won all this money for years now, 7-8 years, playing rated, with no heat or countermeasures and received all the comps he claims on top. Seems a mighty big inconsistency for you to have never raised a single question about that. :rolleyes:
Dont bother making up an answer. We all get who you are and what you are about.
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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Kew, there you go making more things up again. Who said a warrant was issued "for your arrest"? Has to be that lack of education once again.
You are the joke. And the laughing stock of all gaming forums because of your propensity to have to lie to continue your concoction.
Whatever your mindset goal was when you started all this, just like everything else in your fractured life, you have failed.
And I LIKE IT!!!
You completely misquoted me. I am not going to explain but it shows how little concern you have with truth or reality. Just read the fucking posts side by side and see hoe you changed verb tenses. Lol so now it is on.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Why post when no one believes you anymore except misterV? Who is the only one on here who is no sort of AP? Ismt that odd to you? You want to be part of the AP boys club but they all laugh at you. Then one random guy who likes playing $5 slots every now and then believes you. Why not just message him directly and save the abuse?
Your role here is the forum clown.
Help.
Get it.
Even Mdawg and Rob are actual APs unless you completely don't buy their stories! But Rob and I BOTH have evidence Kewl is lying.
This is the generation after mime that fucked things up. Mine made this country great again then it has been downhill solidly since. Witness Kewl with his sashay and lisp - hey misterv - look at meeeeeee!
Incredible
The act of issuing a warrant does not make someone a defendant; rather, it is a mechanism used to bring an already charged or accused person into court custody.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
An accused person becomes a defendant after being formally charged with a crime, which typically happens after an arrest or when a grand jury issues an indictment. At this point, the individual is officially notified of the charges and the case can proceed to court for an arraignment, where they are formally addressed as the "defendant".
The accuser in a criminal case is the prosecutor, who represents the government (such as the state or the United States) and files the charges. The prosecutor's role is to argue that the defendant committed a crime, while the victim is the individual who reports the crime and may provide testimony but is not the formal accuser.
I've never heard of a warrant being available after the fact. Like I guess maybe you can call and find out about an existing warrant (MAYBE) but I never recall there being "he had a warrant out from x/y/z to a/b/c". Records just aren't kept for that. It might show up in a case as a pertinent fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
There is nothing illegal about standing behind a game watching. It doesn't become "back counting" until you attempt to jump into that game, which I never did while I was gathering information.
If there is/was a warrant for my arrest, then I would be a defendant. And if that warrant was a result of a complaint filed by Rob, then he would be the accuser, idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyThe 6th amendment applies to criminal defendants.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Now I know there was no warrant. I was never served. You know there was no warrant. Everyone knows there was no warrant. But if Rob is claiming there was, then he should be able to provide the name on the warrant and where it was served or attempted to be served.
Kewl is asking Rob to prove something that can't be proved when Rob doesn't have to prove anything.
Kewl, log off and get help.
Put yourself on ignore so you don't respond to yourself.
Nobody claimed that it is illegal.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
But it's suspicious, and draws attention to yourself.
So what?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
You've spent years, desperately trying to justify various measures and deceptions used to protect your anonymity.
Now suddenly you admit to standing in surveillance's view, back-counting a sweaty game, for weeks.
Wow, all the frustrated, elderly faggots are out in force this morning going after the same guy (yawn)
Another productive day in loserville….carry on
Also claims for the first time that she plays rated to the point of getting a high level player card. Next she'll claim that she never played blackjack at any Station casinos (because obviously, her identity would be known to them if she played any game at all including slots to the level of Chairman).Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyNobody claimed that it is illegal.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
But it's suspicious, and draws attention to yourself.
So what?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
You've spent years, desperately trying to justify various measures and deceptions used to protect your anonymity.
Now suddenly you admit to standing in surveillance's view, back-counting a sweaty game, for weeks.
https://i.imgur.com/06KD9NCm.jpg
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Originally Posted by MDawgI pointed out the contradictions in his story, more than once long ago:
Part of where the UNKewl one keeps tripping himself up is in contradictions. He talks about how he barely wins $50. average in a session. At other times talks about how he buys in for so little chips - in the region of $150. - $250. - that he draws no attention to himself. Then he talks about how he declined to start another session because he was $3000. short of the "mandatory" $7000. he needs to play. Very contradictory.
I also pointed out that his entire fictionalized blackjack story fit too neatly into a "I won exactly what was expected" - someone else, I believe it was AccountInQuestion, mentioned that someone playing like that, unrated, no consistent play, couldn't even know exactly what his handle (amount passed over the circle) was, to begin to figure out what was "expected" over a period of many years.
UNKewlJ has also consistently contradicted himself – unable to keep to the same story. One day he’s never ever played rated, next day he talks about all the comps he racked up at table games. Not too different from how sheTater/Moses once described it as a nervous poodle barking at a glass of water.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
This retard is a closeted homosexual.
Reading this thread reminded me I think someone was trying to organize a get together meet & greet for Vegas Casino Talk members to meet in person in Las Vegas.
Anyone know if that is still being worked on?
Good morning. Glad to have you involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keystone
Singer DMed me asking if I could get a 2 bedroom room because he doesn't have the money. Ugh. I'm still considering it.. what would you do?Quote:
Originally Posted by DGenBen
Thanks, I do what I canQuote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionGood morning. Glad to have you involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keystone
I’d get him the room.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionSinger DMed me asking if I could get a 2 bedroom room because he doesn't have the money. Ugh. I'm still considering it.. what would you do?Quote:
Originally Posted by DGenBen
He’s a dog lover so he’s alright in my book.
Ahh I meant 2 bed room not "2 bedroom room". Singer wants to stay in my room so he can afford this shindig.. like.. Singer definitely adds a lot of color to this place. He warned me he snores and farts a lot. Said they're real stinky but he'll double-up on the beano.Quote:
Originally Posted by DGenBenI’d get him the room.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionSinger DMed me asking if I could get a 2 bedroom room because he doesn't have the money. Ugh. I'm still considering it.. what would you do?Quote:
Originally Posted by DGenBen
He’s a dog lover so he’s alright in my book.
And he has made me laugh a few times but i still don't know if I want him sharing a room.. I'm hoping Mickey comes through with the comped room elsewhere and I'll just cover the resort fee for Singer. Meh. If you want to though, I'm happy to have you cover it.
Us APs have to stick together.
Still waiting to see when Redietz has time freed up from college football.
It is going to be a fun one.
I showed Redietz Vegasslots.com so hopefully he can grind out a free room on there.
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Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Whoa, someone seems to have a case of the D.T.'s.
You earlier wrote: ". Anyway I'm drunk but had you not used the word when I was sober I wouldn't have spent the effort to dissect you."
You claimed you were drunk: how were you "misquoted" by KJ?
Now you tap dance, saying you were "not even really drunk."
What a freakin' Clown Show, Bozo...
But don't get any needed help: you're entertaining just as you are.
Hello, schadenfreude.
Nope. Kewl changed around the verb tenses in his quote yet put it in quotes. A couple days ago I called him out on his nonsense in a completely reasonable manner and all he had to do was fall back on calling me a drunk randomly. Last night was only drink I've had in weeks and just admitted to it. Hey, it gives you something quasi-based on reality. I was in a bar and had a double while responding on my phone. Whether drunk or not - hard to say but I was intoxicated.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterVQuote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Whoa, someone seems to have a case of the D.T.'s.
You earlier wrote: ". Anyway I'm drunk but had you not used the word when I was sober I wouldn't have spent the effort to dissect you."
You claimed you were drunk.
Now you tap dance, saying you were "not even really drunk."
What a freakin' Clown Show, Bozo...
But don't get any needed help: you're entertaining just as you are.
Hello, schadenfreude.
I get it. He is frustrated. This place is very important to him. He had to come up with something. Keystone kinda battles for him but sees him for what he is.
You don't because you're a fool. You seem to miss quite a bit going on here.
I had a double. Whether drinking/drunk whatever. I was just loling. Keep trying. I said I'd give you something to work with because you're kinda sad so have at it.
Why don't you help Kewl get help instead of egging him on?
Giving him hope that people might believe him is really no better than just flat out telling him to move on in life.
You're a dope. I remember the last time we got into it. You're like, "Ohhh, so you want to dance?" like you're in some movie scene. You people. lol. kill me. just kill me.
I believe I mentioned that and no, so far as I know it is not being worked on.Quote:
Originally Posted by DGenBen
Were it to happen I suggest all attendees come heavily disguised and tranquilized in order to avoid a riot and a blood bath.
Then again it might be fun for all attendees to meet up together in the octagon and engage in a bit of ground and pound.
"What Happens In Vegas..." is just a bunch of bullshit.
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Funny stuff. A 2-bedroom so I could mooch off of AQ? Hahaha! A lonely old man like that wouldn't know how to react to a superior being--let alone a WOMAN!--in a flat with him :)
Meet 3-1/2 month old Twinkle....our new high-value prima dona!Quote:
Originally Posted by DGenBenI’d get him the room.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionSinger DMed me asking if I could get a 2 bedroom room because he doesn't have the money. Ugh. I'm still considering it.. what would you do?Quote:
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He’s a dog lover so he’s alright in my book.
Nothing unusual here coach. Kew NEVER thinks about what lies hes already spewed before trying to push off more lies on everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyNobody claimed that it is illegal.Quote:
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But it's suspicious, and draws attention to yourself.
So what?Quote:
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You've spent years, desperately trying to justify various measures and deceptions used to protect your anonymity.
Now suddenly you admit to standing in surveillance's view, back-counting a sweaty game, for weeks.
What a cutie!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerMeet 3-1/2 month old Twinkle....our new high-value prima dona!Quote:
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He’s a dog lover so he’s alright in my book.
:) They're the best living things on earth.Quote:
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How about I let you make up an answer for me...Quote:
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It is quite telling that it didn't register with him how bad of an idea this would have been .. He just digs himself deeper and deeper with his holes. Once he starts digging he doesn't stop.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyNobody claimed that it is illegal.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
But it's suspicious, and draws attention to yourself.
So what?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
You've spent years, desperately trying to justify various measures and deceptions used to protect your anonymity.
Now suddenly you admit to standing in surveillance's view, back-counting a sweaty game, for weeks.
Ooooh I knew something was up because I watched 200 shoes by just standing there then bought a shuffler on ebay (which I immediately sold to someone else) blah blah blah.
Just standing there.. for weeks. I don't even think it registered with him how ludricous this would have been.
Insane.
He needs help.
Seriously, you are going to continue to lie about Ebay, when I have told you that you are lying multiple time? Do you need me to prove that you are lying, because I can.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
At the time I purchased the machine I purchased, Shufflemaster only leased these machines and only to registered casinos. They would not service or help in any way a machine processed by someone not a casino. And if someone outside a casino possessed a machine it was proof that they had obtained it illegally since only shufflemaster owned the machines. And depending on the countries involved shufflemaster would take whatever legal action necessary to retrieve their machines, of which because they maintained ownership, it was not legally possible for anyone else to own.
This is why players had such a hard time getting these machines and there is no way ebay would be involved in selling one. You should apologize for repeating this lie, but I am quite sure you are not man enough to do so.
I was able to buy a machine on a site far different than ebay. (that is all I am going to say). The machine has actually been in use in a casino in a foreign country not long before I purchased it. Purchasing was only half the problem. It was illegal to have this machine, which could not be owned by anyone other than shufflemaster into the United States at the time I purchased. So we had to work around that too.
And that is precisely why once I had the machines, there was another high end AP willing and wanting to buy it after I had seen what I wanted to see. And why he actually put me in touch with someone that could help me see what I wanted to see. Someone VERY familiar with the machines if you get my drift.
So you see you continuing to repeat this proven lie exposes you for the low life troll that you have become. :cool:
Full disclosure: Since the time I purchased the machine, I believe shufflemaster will now sell machines directly to the public for about $15,000. I haven't looked into that, but you can bet your ass the feature of interest has been stripped out or isn't available in these machines sold to the public.
But you continue to lie and troll and do what you gotta do, Mr haven't drank in 2 weeks.
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Claiming that you can prove he is lying is not proof that he is lying.
Standing behind a table watching a game for 6-8 minutes is not that unusual. That is all it takes for once through a 2 deck shoe of cards. 2 decks @ 60-62% penetration is about 65 cards that will be played before the shuffle. depending on number of players that is just a few minutes per shoe.Quote:
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So I could watch a couple times through the cards and then walk away and do something else for a couple minutes and then come back and watch a couple more. I could also sit down and play, flat betting while I did my tracking research. And there were VP machines about 6 feet away that I could play as well if I felt I was drawing attention. Tracking the cards was NOT a problem.
I think throughout the couple weeks I was doing so maybe 3 times a pit person asked if I wanted to play. twice I said "no, just watching". Once I said, "I don't think I trust those machines" just wanting to see if I got any reaction.
Thiese comments by you and belly make me think neither has ever sat down or is familiar with a blackjack table. People watch the game all the time.
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Here you go again, changing the story....Quote:
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So when you originally wrote that it took weeks, you meant 2 weeks?Quote:
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LOL..you're so full of shit. Get help.Quote:
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I know you are math challenged Belly, BUT JUST explained the math to you.Quote:
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Nobody back-counts 200 shoes over a period of weeks without being noticed, especially those who otherwise take extraordinary measures not to be noticed.
Here you go again, changing the story....
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A "shoe" or once through a 60% double deck game, which is what we are talking about takes, 6 minutes or less. So we are talking 1200 minutes total over 2 weeks. I didn't do it every day, but maybe 10 days. That is 120 minutes a day. 2 hours a day. I am didn't show up at 11am and stay til 1pm. I moved it around a bit, even showing up night shift a couple times. A couple days I watched for an hour or 90 minutes, then went and ate lunch then watched another hour.
All you are doing is embarrassing yourself, proving once again, you are arguing something you have no clue about. Which is what you always do.
Sorry, but no...you are embarrassing yourself with your ever-changing bullshit stories.Quote:
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This is not about the math.
You see, when you tell the truth, you simply cling to the truth when examined, and your story doesn't change.
Somebody who is lying cannot cling to the truth....their story changes with each retelling.
Your story changed from "took weeks" to took 10 days.
Your story changed from doing everything to avoid suspicion to, "suspicious but who cares."
Your story changed from in and out of a casino, to hanging around the casino for 3 hours.
You are a liar, you are lying again.
Good luck thriving here with your crew...psychotic Dung Woo, on-probation Keystone, and kicked-to-the-curb Bozo.
Everybody else here has abandoned you...for good cause.
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Originally Posted by kewlJ
This is not about the math.
You see, when you tell the truth, you simply cling to the truth when examined, and your story doesn't change.
Somebody who is lying cannot cling to the truth....their story changes with each retelling.
Your story changed from "took weeks" to took 10 days.
Your story changed from doing everything to avoid suspicion to, "suspicious but who cares."
Your story changed from in and out of a casino, to hanging around the casino for 3 hours.
You are a liar, you are lying again.
Good luck thriving here with your crew...psychotic Dung Woo, on-probation Keystone, and kicked-to-the-curb Bozo.
Everybody else here has abandoned you...for good cause.
You asked how long it took to track 200 times through a double deck game. I said "two weeks". That didn't mean it was 14 straight days or if it was actually 12 or 13 or 15 that I am lying, you crazy bastard.
I don't honestly know if it was 9 or 10 days over the two week. I was still out every day playing my regular rotation of games. I just made it a point to stop by EC at some point most days until I had accumulated enough information to satisfy myself that what I was seeing wasn't random.
Now YOU, you smelly bastard, had absolutely no idea what I was talking about, nor what my answer would be when you asked. You were no doubt thinking my answer would be months, not realizing it takes about 6 minutes depending on dealer and number of players to get through a double deck 60% game to the shuffle.
Now you want to make a federal case that I said 2 weeks, when maybe it was 9 or 10 days out of the two weeks. Maybe it was 11 days out of the two weeks.
All you did is prove yet again what a nut you are with this coach belly "gottch ya" shit which I and everyone else saw coming a mile away.
This is why very few people even respond to you. You are a cockroach. Absolutely no value
Remember how I taught you and V about the function of the blue arrows? It's a direct link to a post...a quote.Quote:
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Here is your quoted post...
You didn't write two weeks, you wrote "took weeks".Quote:
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That can't be a typo because everybody (even Villanova grads) knows how to spell "two"....there's only one "o" and no "k".
And now your story has changed to include the claim that you took 3 hours, on most days, out of your regular rotation, to back-count DD at a sweat joint.
Keep digging.Quote:
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Took a couple weeks. What the fuck is your point?
What exactly do you think "took weeks" meant. 10 weeks? 12 weeks? 20 weeks? If that was the case I would have said took months.
I said took weeks. And I don't even know if it took two weeks or maybe 2.5 weeks, or even 3 weeks. I know I would stop at EC most days for an hour or so, maybe 90 minutes. Maybe more if I was going to grab something to eat there. And back then I played 5-6 days a week, so I am guessing I stopped at EC 4-5 days a week, which would have..... taken 2 weeks. :rolleyes:
Fucking troll.
But it really isn't even your fault. It is my fault for engaging with you in any way. Some day I will learn.
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My point is that if telling the truth, when examined you need only to cling to the truth, and your story will not change.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
But if you are lying, then that will be exposed when your story changes under examination.
No you did not say "two weeks"Quote:
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Here your timeline changes, from "maybe 10 days" to "I don't know"Quote:
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The truth does not change. You are obviously lying about all of this.Quote:
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You are a NUT belly. A real Nut job!
I am more than confident that any normal person, a MrV, mickeycrimm, anyone else outside your little troll club, will see NO inconsistency in what I said, remembering that it is an incident from 7 years ago or more and I am NOT on trial where I need to remember exactly how many days I tracked the tables to get enough information to be comfortable making my accusation.
You are really a loon! and prove it day after day.
Well you brought it up, and then fucked it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Now you're speaking for others (just like that Trump fella), but we haven't heard from anyone on this subject that believes your story, and we may not.
And what good will your guarantee be if those 2 don't weigh in on this in your favor?
Either way, it's only a small part of your never-ending stream of bullshit stories.
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You must be very disappointed since your epiphany.Quote:
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But don't surrender to your desires regarding tewlj...let the truth set you free.
Hahahahahahahaha!....caught in a lie yet AGAIN!!Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Watching this loser go down time and again is worth the time and price!!!
If I was to bother to go back and see what you said - how would it change the outcome? You would continue to ignore it. It is possible I have ebay wrong but pretty sure I'm right about 15 mins. Maybe it was 2 hours. Whatever. Everyone knows it is allQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJSeriously, you are going to continue to lie about Ebay, when I have told you that you are lying multiple time? Do you need me to prove that you are lying, because I can.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
At the time I purchased the machine I purchased, Shufflemaster only leased these machines and only to registered casinos. They would not service or help in any way a machine processed by someone not a casino. And if someone outside a casino possessed a machine it was proof that they had obtained it illegally since only shufflemaster owned the machines. And depending on the countries involved shufflemaster would take whatever legal action necessary to retrieve their machines, of which because they maintained ownership, it was not legally possible for anyone else to own.
This is why players had such a hard time getting these machines and there is no way ebay would be involved in selling one. You should apologize for repeating this lie, but I am quite sure you are not man enough to do so.
I was able to buy a machine on a site far different than ebay. (that is all I am going to say). The machine has actually been in use in a casino in a foreign country not long before I purchased it. Purchasing was only half the problem. It was illegal to have this machine, which could not be owned by anyone other than shufflemaster into the United States at the time I purchased. So we had to work around that too.
And that is precisely why once I had the machines, there was another high end AP willing and wanting to buy it after I had seen what I wanted to see. And why he actually put me in touch with someone that could help me see what I wanted to see. Someone VERY familiar with the machines if you get my drift.
So you see you continuing to repeat this proven lie exposes you for the low life troll that you have become. :cool:
Full disclosure: Since the time I purchased the machine, I believe shufflemaster will now sell machines directly to the public for about $15,000. I haven't looked into that, but you can bet your ass the feature of interest has been stripped out or isn't available in these machines sold to the public.
But you continue to lie and troll and do what you gotta do, Mr haven't drank in 2 weeks.
concocted fantasy outside of likely some playing of bj. Who knows maybe you dom count and win but there are layers of proven lies.
Glad to have told you I was having a double at a bar while flaming you. Gave you something to gain mileage off.
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This retard is a closeted homosexual.