kewlJ

[Dan Druff]

Ok, I accept. These are my terms.

Todd Witteles (Dan Druff) is who I choose to be the arbitrator, although there will be written conditions, agreed to in writing by Wittless, enforceable by legal action, if necessary.

Since I can't say an exact amount by legal settlement agreement, Mdawg will need to deposit $500,000 with Todd Witteles.

I will meet with Todd, take him to my bank and request a print out of my account transactions for the period. This will insure that I am not using some doctored document. I will also allow him to speak with bank personnel, and authorize bank personnél to speak to him about my account, if he desires. These documents will not remain with Witteles after verification, nor be turned over to Mdawg to view at any time, as he has proven he will use whatever information he can to harm my career.

Upon completion of verification, Todd Witteles will disburse to me a matching amount of my recent settlement, from the escrow and return the balance less any agree fee for his participation to Mdawg.

These are my terms. They are non-negotiatable. And I will not spend days and weeks going back and forth as these challenges always do, turning into nothing. If and when Todd agrees to participate, money must be deposited within 24 hours or by the next business day if he agrees this weekend.

I agree to do this, provided I'm in Vegas. Though I'm 5 days behind reading the thread, so maybe this is moot?

I don't know why you called me "Wittless" in the first 3 lines of the above, followed by spelling my name correctly the rest of the time?

[Dan Druff]

Ok, I accept. These are my terms.

Todd Witteles (Dan Druff) is who I choose to be the arbitrator, although there will be written conditions, agreed to in writing by Wittless, enforceable by legal action, if necessary.

Since I can't say an exact amount by legal settlement agreement, Mdawg will need to deposit $500,000 with Todd Witteles.

I will meet with Todd, take him to my bank and request a print out of my account transactions for the period. This will insure that I am not using some doctored document. I will also allow him to speak with bank personnel, and authorize bank personnél to speak to him about my account, if he desires. These documents will not remain with Witteles after verification, nor be turned over to Mdawg to view at any time, as he has proven he will use whatever information he can to harm my career.

Upon completion of verification, Todd Witteles will disburse to me a matching amount of my recent settlement, from the escrow and return the balance less any agree fee for his participation to Mdawg.

These are my terms. They are non-negotiatable. And I will not spend days and weeks going back and forth as these challenges always do, turning into nothing. If and when Todd agrees to participate, money must be deposited within 24 hours or by the next business day if he agrees this weekend.

You are creating a lot of extra noise obviously in the hopes that the whole thing will fall through.

Todd isn't in Vegas. And I'm not paying him or anyone else to do what may be done with a simple login to your banking account. If you want Todd to be the one who logs into your banking, that's fine with me. All he has to do is attest that there is an ACH which may be attributed to this backrooming incident landing on 6/24/2023, a Saturday.

What are you putting up, if you want me to put up $500,000. you will need to do the same. I can do it. Can you?

I will be in Vegas at various times in October. I'm sure an in person version of this can be arranged.

[MDawg]

Dan the Man Druff, if you want to take the time, these posts pretty much summarize the changing versions of the ACH story of how UNKewlJ claims he received the settlement from his fictional backrooming incident.

https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post163680

https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post163723

https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post163742

such that, yeah, any sort of wager over this is more than moot.

His story went from claiming that it was an ACH that landed (posted) in his account after midnight Friday June 23rd, to claiming eventually that there was no ACH at all it was an inter bank transfer that came from some account his attorney set up specially just for him at UNKewlJ’s bank. You will get a headache following the twists and turns in his ever changing story on that one.

Even if he hadn’t changed his story about how he received the funds, my proposal was that we both put up equal amounts of money and then if he can’t prove that he received the ACH "backrooming" settlement funds on a SATURDAY (June 24, 2023) as he claimed (he claimed it “posted” sometime after midnight Friday), he would lose what he put up (or if he could prove it, I would lose what I put up).

https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...535#post163535

When UNKewlJ realized that he was looking bad for not accepting my wager he came back with an absurd counter proposal that I put up $500,000. up front and that he put up nothing and even endure no penalty if he failed to come up with the proof of the ACH settlement deposit.


P.S. This post gets into some more lies that UNKewlJ laid down as far as the backrooming incident

https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post163695

Ultimately, what you said Dan Druff is the story of the scene here.

I don't think there was any incident which was lawsuit-worthy, which is why we got so many changing and bizarre versions of the same story.

or, as I put it

What happened here, is that something happened to someone - to more than one person, and UNKewlJ took it upon himself to put together a composite story about a series of events.

[MDawg]

When it comes to these sorts of things, the more ever changing and bizarre the story gets, the less likely that it is true. If something like this had actually happened, given that it's the most money in one place UNKewlJ has ever seen in his LIFE, you may bet that he would have been posting a consistent and clear tale about what happened, versus playing "catch up" to the issues I and others raised with his story, after the fact.

And no, he can't claim that he lied "to protect his privacy" because he was obviously more than willing to say what happened, and definitely posted it for the reason of having everyone believe it, just that he couldn't get his story straight, and the more he changed it, the less believable it became.

Admitting that you lied after the fact doesn't jibe with having lied to "protect your privacy" either, makes zero sense.

In fact, even this story doesn't make sense. He's insisting the backrooming really happened, but just the lawsuit part of it was fake. He said he told that lie in order to protect his privacy. Huh?? How does adding a fake postscript to the story protect your privacy?

[MDawg]

If UNkewlJ can read all of the above and NOT return from the grave the way he did after claiming he was dead,

Hand on his hip, shrill whiny voice,

Not on my watch, Mister.

I will be more than impressed. He'd practically have to be dead, actually deceased, to not step back in now, with some of his long-winded, rambling drama-laced "I NEED TO set the record straight or I'll go OUT OF MY MIND!" paragraphs that never seem to satisfy, as he then repeats the same things over and over again.

One thing you can tell, when UNKewlJ makes with the all bold sentences one after another something has really gotten to him. You can practically see the hand cocked onto his side, the bent elbow and the high pitched whiny voice complaining, "Now wayyyyt a minute, Misterrrrr."

[kewlJ]

Ok, I accept. These are my terms.

Todd Witteles (Dan Druff) is who I choose to be the arbitrator, although there will be written conditions, agreed to in writing by Wittless, enforceable by legal action, if necessary.

Since I can't say an exact amount by legal settlement agreement, Mdawg will need to deposit $500,000 with Todd Witteles.

I will meet with Todd, take him to my bank and request a print out of my account transactions for the period. This will insure that I am not using some doctored document. I will also allow him to speak with bank personnel, and authorize bank personnél to speak to him about my account, if he desires. These documents will not remain with Witteles after verification, nor be turned over to Mdawg to view at any time, as he has proven he will use whatever information he can to harm my career.

Upon completion of verification, Todd Witteles will disburse to me a matching amount of my recent settlement, from the escrow and return the balance less any agree fee for his participation to Mdawg.

These are my terms. They are non-negotiatable. And I will not spend days and weeks going back and forth as these challenges always do, turning into nothing. If and when Todd agrees to participate, money must be deposited within 24 hours or by the next business day if he agrees this weekend.

I agree to do this, provided I'm in Vegas. Though I'm 5 days behind reading the thread, so maybe this is moot?

I don't know why you called me "Wittless" in the first 3 lines of the above, followed by spelling my name correctly the rest of the time?

I will be in Vegas at various times in October. I'm sure an in person version of this can be arranged

First, I apologize for the Wittless spelling, Dan Druff. I was an honest mistake. Kind of funny though.

Second, although I have decided to not participate here any longer, as it just isn't worth it, I will participate in this challenge, now that Dan Druff has agreed to arbitrate. My terms remain the same. It is NOT a wager. This was Mdawg insisting that there was no settlement and saying he would double the amount if I prove there was. I am prepared to do that. So as soon as Mdawg escrows an amount above my settlement amount with Todd Witteles (Dan Druff) we can begin. I previously said he would need to escrow $500k. I will drop that to $300k, which will cover my portion of settlement and any fee that Todd may request for being involved.

Dan Druff let me know when you will be in Vegas and as soon as you have received the escrow money from Mdawg, we can begin.


As for the rest of Mdawgs trolling BS it is just that. I never said a word about ACH, and for good reason. I didn't at the time know anything about ACH. It was Mdawg who on another forum starting talking about ACH deposits. All I said was the money hit my bank account sometime after midnight.

here is a link to that post (#697) to prove that I never mentioned ACH.

https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...976#post158976

So Druff, let me know if and when you have received the escrow money and it has cleared, (just holding a check won't do it) and when you will be in Vegas and we can get this done.

[accountinquestion]

Kewl, why does he need to put up the full amount? What is to prevent you from just disappearing and never doing anything? That is the missing part. You want the full amount available but then don't want to put up anything for Mdawg's time and effort. You're the guy who said you will never prove anything blah blah.

Anyway glad to see you back buddy.

I was THIS CLOSE to begging you.. begging you.. to come back but true to Kewl being Kewl you came back for us.

Thank you ! This forum was on the brink of death.

[kewlJ]

Kewl, why does he need to put up the full amount? What is to prevent you from just disappearing and never doing anything? That is the missing part. You want the full amount available but then don't want to put up anything for Mdawg's time and effort. You're the guy who said you will never prove anything blah blah.

Anyway glad to see you back buddy.

I am not back AinQ. This proposal was made before I decided to leave this forum and I will honor it. It is a free Roll for me.

I am not following with the "me disappearing" scenario. I am not holding the money, Dan Druff (Todd Witteles) is holding the money. If I disappear without proving to Dan Druff, then the money is returned to Mdawg.

The reason I am unwilling to put up anything is because there would be the possibility of collusion in which I could lose whatever I put up despite proving I received the settlement. Let's say it was a straight 100k wager with each party putting up 100k for Todd to hold. I take Todd to the bank and prove with bank documents, nothing doctored or photoshop that I received the settlement. But Druff and Mdawg collude, with Druff saying I didn't prove anything and they spit the money. No offense to Druff for mentioning this possible scenario. Then I am left trying to take legal action for a wager that is illegal and unenforceable. That is why I don't get involved in these type of things.

You are correct AinQ, proving anything goes against my grain, what I believe an anonymous forum is about. So Mdawg made the offer to double my settlement amount if I proved it. THAT is what I have accepted, agreed to and am prepared to prove. But only under my terms which guarantee payment.

Mdawg is so sure of himself that he made this challenge and should be prepared to accept the risk. And money shouldn't be an issue. He keeps telling us and showing pictures of how much he has. Just yesterday he claimed to have won 97K in a session at the casino. Right there he is a third of the way there.

AinQ, I don't want to debate this for days or weeks. I am not interested in playing the troll games that this forum is about any longer. And this really doesn't involve you or anyone except Mdawg, myslf and Witteles now. Mdawg made this challenge, he assumes the risk. Next communication from me will be to Todd (Druff) after he informs me he has received escrow from Mdawg and we can discuss time arrangements for verification. This can be done publicly or privately.

[accountinquestion]

Kewl, why does he need to put up the full amount? What is to prevent you from just disappearing and never doing anything? That is the missing part. You want the full amount available but then don't want to put up anything for Mdawg's time and effort. You're the guy who said you will never prove anything blah blah.

Anyway glad to see you back buddy.

I am not back AinQ. This proposal was made before I decided to leave this forum and I will honor it. It is a free Roll for me.

I am not following with the "me disappearing" scenario. I am not holding the money, Dan Druff (Todd Witteles) is holding the money. If I disappear without proving to Dan Druff, then the money is returned to Mdawg.

The reason I am unwilling to put up anything is because there would be the possibility of collusion in which I could lose whatever I put up despite proving I received the settlement. Let's say it was a straight 100k wager with each party putting up 100k for Todd to hold. I take Todd to the bank and prove with bank documents, nothing doctored or photoshop that I received the settlement. But Druff and Mdawg collude, with Druff saying I didn't prove anything and they spit the money. No offense to Druff for mentioning this possible scenario. Then I am left trying to take legal action for a wager that is illegal and unenforceable. That is why I don't get involved in these type of things.

You are correct AinQ, proving anything goes against my grain, what I believe an anonymous forum is about. So Mdawg made the offer to double my settlement amount if I proved it. THAT is what I have accepted, agreed to and am prepared to prove. But only under my terms which guarantee payment.

Mdawg is so sure of himself that he made this challenge and should be prepared to accept the risk. And money shouldn't be an issue. He keeps telling us and showing pictures of how much he has. Just yesterday he claimed to have won 97K in a session at the casino. Right there he is a third of the way there.

AinQ, I don't want to debate this for days or weeks. I am not interested in playing the troll games that this forum is about any longer. And this really doesn't involve you or anyone except Mdawg, myslf and Witteles now. Mdawg made this challenge, he assumes the risk. Next communication from me will be to Todd (Druff) after he informs me he has received escrow from Mdawg and we can discuss time arrangements for verification. This can be done publicly or privately.

It is ok. You are a flakey pathological liar. You know Mdawg isn't going to put up the money.

You have nothing to lose here. You only gain by trying to make it look like a sincere offer on your side.

You don't even need to put up some money. You would just need ot request less money upfront on MDawg's side to continue forward. You won't.

Todd has been around for 20+ years in this world. To think he would abscond with your piddly few thousands you could scratch up is just more absurdity bullshit.

I didn't realize this was a 100k wager. Making up nonsensical strawmen?

Like others have said - if you were a professional gambler you'd work to make this happen but you're not anything like that.

[Rob.Singer]

Kew once again returning to post utter nonsense after claiming he was gone for good. What a disgusting, weak loser. And mdawg putting up an escrow with nothing from the broke little homo? Typical. He knows mdawg nor anybody else would ever do something so stupid. He's been sitting his tiny little dump nervously awake 24/7 trying to figure a way back to posting more lies about this phantom "settlement", and this is the bs he came up with.

I'll take some of this action kew. I know for a fact that you are broke and you know that I know that. Only with me you're gonna have to do this right; no weaseling your way around this. I'll escrow $500k with Dan IN CASH and so will you. Simultaneously. You prove you got that "settlement" delivered when and how you claimed, and the money's yours. Fail and it's mine.

You are the joke.

[kewlJ]

THE UNKEWL CHALLENGE

If this liar can produce evidence that he received a settlement from his made up backrooming incident on the date he claims I will match the amount he received in the ACH.

This is what I have agreed to. Nothing else. I will produce indisputable evidence, direct documentation from the bank requested and received in the presence of third party Dan Druff. And Mdawg will double my settlement amount just as he so brazenly offered.

[MDawg]

I didn't read any of what he wrote but he shorrrrre sounds upppset. (More like, upppity, but upset nonetheless.)

One thing you can tell, when UNKewlJ makes with the all bold sentences one after another something has really gotten to him. You can practically see the hand cocked onto his side, the bent elbow and the high pitched whiny voice complaining, "Now wayyyyt a minute, Misterrrrr."

It takes almost no beating the grass for the snake to return. Hissing, whining, complaining, all that!

[MDawg]

Anyway the way this is going to play out, is as always. UNKewlJ will reappear after this, what is it, about 60th solemn oath to quit the forums or quit interacting with so and so, respond to one question that someone appears to have posed to him, under the guise of, "Because that is a reasonable respectful question, I will respond."

Another version of his return from the grave involves showing up in some innocuous thread and posting as if nothing ever happened.

Then of course someone will laugh at him and point out that he couldn't even stay away more than a matter of hours or days, and he'll get into it with that person and try to qualify that he meant that he was leaving only because "everyone was trolling him" but he reserves the right to respond to legitimate queries, and then next thing you know - he's right back to the usual feuding with everyone, taking up good portions of entire days at a time - the way he likes it!

[MDawg]

Just yesterday he claimed to have won 97K in a session at the casino. Right there he is a third of the way there.

Just more proof that this imbecile could not possible be any kind of card counter,

Mdawg will need to deposit $500,000 with Todd Witteles.

or any kind of anything, other than a homeless loser.

How is $97,000 anywhere near 1/3 of $500,000?

Yes we know he's stupid, yes we know he's a liar, but 1/3 of 500K = 97K? No wonder he sticks to red to green action.

His chips:



My chips:



I kept a couple reds for yah, UNKewlJ, I'll drop them in your cup on my way out the door.

[Rob.Singer]

Anyway the way this is going to play out, is as always. UNKewlJ will reappear after this, what is it, about 60th solemn oath to quit the forums or quit interacting with so and so, respond to one question that someone appears to have posed to him, under the guise of, "Because that is a reasonable respectful question, I will respond."

Another version of his return from the grave involves showing up in some innocuous thread and posting as if nothing ever happened.

Then of course someone will laugh at him and point out that he couldn't even stay away more than a matter of hours or days, and he'll get into it with that person and try to qualify that he meant that he was leaving only because "everyone was trolling him" but he reserves the right to respond to legitimate queries, and then next thing you know - he's right back to the usual feuding with everyone, taking up good portions of entire days at a time - the way he likes it!

It's difficult to even begin to imagine the amount of anxiety kew experiences AFTER THE FIRST HALF HOUR! each and every time he claims to be gone for good. He worries himself to death that not a single person believes anything about him, other than he's just like the vast majority of LV residents: he loses on low limit video poker and blackjack.

[accountinquestion]

Just yesterday he claimed to have won 97K in a session at the casino. Right there he is a third of the way there.

Just more proof that this imbecile could not possible be any kind of card counter,

Mdawg will need to deposit $500,000 with Todd Witteles.

or any kind of anything, other than a homeless loser.

How is $97,000 anywhere near 1/3 of $500,000?

Yes we know he's stupid, yes we know he's a liar, but 1/3 of 500K = 97K? No wonder he sticks to red to green action.

His chips:



My chips:



I kept a couple reds for yah, UNKewlJ, I'll drop them in your cup on my way out the door.

Well.. 500k to 97k is the same ratio as a green chip to a red chip.

You know what you know and nothing more.

[accountinquestion]

Kewl won't even put up a token amount when the payout is so much greater. Kewl you put up 2k.. mdawg puts up whatever. I know you've learned a lot from singer over the years but it doesn't hide the fact that a professional gambler would be putting forth some effort to make this happen. Go get some btc then you don't even have to reveal your id and if druff takes your 2k in btc to split with mdawg then lol. I'll send you the 2k.

[AxelWolf]

Kewl won't even put up a token amount when the payout is so much greater. Kewl you put up 2k.. mdawg puts up whatever. I know you've learned a lot from singer over the years but it doesn't hide the fact that a professional gambler would be putting forth some effort to make this happen. Go get some btc then you don't even have to reveal your id and if druff takes your 2k in btc to split with mdawg then lol. I'll send you the 2k.

+1

[AxelWolf]

Dan, while you're at it can I get a 2 team parlay going on this stuff? MDawg claims some nonsense about being able to remember all cards that have been played from a shoe or some nonsense. I don't know his exact claim, but I remember it being ludicrous.

[MaxPen]

Kewl, why does he need to put up the full amount? What is to prevent you from just disappearing and never doing anything? That is the missing part. You want the full amount available but then don't want to put up anything for Mdawg's time and effort. You're the guy who said you will never prove anything blah blah.

Anyway glad to see you back buddy.

I am not back AinQ. This proposal was made before I decided to leave this forum and I will honor it. It is a free Roll for me.

I am not following with the "me disappearing" scenario. I am not holding the money, Dan Druff (Todd Witteles) is holding the money. If I disappear without proving to Dan Druff, then the money is returned to Mdawg.

The reason I am unwilling to put up anything is because there would be the possibility of collusion in which I could lose whatever I put up despite proving I received the settlement. Let's say it was a straight 100k wager with each party putting up 100k for Todd to hold. I take Todd to the bank and prove with bank documents, nothing doctored or photoshop that I received the settlement. But Druff and Mdawg collude, with Druff saying I didn't prove anything and they spit the money. No offense to Druff for mentioning this possible scenario. Then I am left trying to take legal action for a wager that is illegal and unenforceable. That is why I don't get involved in these type of things.

You are correct AinQ, proving anything goes against my grain, what I believe an anonymous forum is about. So Mdawg made the offer to double my settlement amount if I proved it. THAT is what I have accepted, agreed to and am prepared to prove. But only under my terms which guarantee payment.

Mdawg is so sure of himself that he made this challenge and should be prepared to accept the risk. And money shouldn't be an issue. He keeps telling us and showing pictures of how much he has. Just yesterday he claimed to have won 97K in a session at the casino. Right there he is a third of the way there.

AinQ, I don't want to debate this for days or weeks. I am not interested in playing the troll games that this forum is about any longer. And this really doesn't involve you or anyone except Mdawg, myslf and Witteles now. Mdawg made this challenge, he assumes the risk. Next communication from me will be to Todd (Druff) after he informs me he has received escrow from Mdawg and we can discuss time arrangements for verification. This can be done publicly or privately.

Just get gone already fraud....RIP