Is Sports Betting AP Play?

[OneHitWonder]

What you and Argentino don't know is I could easily set you up in such a bet and do it in less than an hour.

What we don't know is how stupid you are.

[kewlJ]

You'd have to figure too, that Grosjean, Jacobson and the other gambling authors would be millionaires by now with backers. But, they aren't. Where ARE THEY now?

Grosjean is most definitely a millionaire from advantage play, I am quite sure a multi-millionaire. Jacobson is a failed AP, so it goes without saying that he is not a millionaire from AP.

I have no idea concerning Mike's finances concerning AP and backers, nor "other authors" who you aren't even naming, so I am not going to speculate.

I don't know what you are driving at here....what your point is, but I have made over a million dollars in my 14 years as an AP. I first hit that mark in late 2016 and then fell back and again went over that milestone early this year (for good I hope). I don't have a million dollars, nor would call myself a millionaire, but I have made a million dollars APing. My particular numbers are about 80% from blackjack card counting and 20% from other supplemental AP stuff. A million dollars isn't that high of a threshold (over many years). If I can do it, employing the most elementary (and most feel outdated) method of AP and at low to mid level stakes, anyone could achieve this goal that had a mind to.

In my own case, earlier in my career, when I was underfunded and still building my bankroll, I had several offers of joining a well known team, and had an offer of a financial backing for my solo play, that would have allowed me to play higher stakes and probably achieve greater results much quicker. I declined on all occasions. I didn't want to be "beholden" to anyone else, team members or investors. I wanted to answer to and be responsible for only myself.

I am sure you don't care about any of that, but my point is that investors backing AP's is a very common thing. If the investor has vetted the player through friends, associates and other mutual players, and the player is sound, it is a good investment with high returns of 50-100% (sometimes more). An investor, investing in sound AP's will do quite well, even if one occasionally goes bad or rouge.

You are getting to be like Alan. Just because YOU are not familiar with something does not mean it does not exist.

[redietz]

OneHit, if you're anti-gambling, say so. People can try to discredit you. If you're a recreational, lose-my-ass dude, say so and let people come after you. If you're a failed AP, say so. All you're doing is pontificating from some safe place, and it's not even data-driven pontificating. Why not tell everybody what you did yesterday, so maybe someone can say, "Well, that was a truly pitiful way to spend 24 hours?"

Red, if you want to argue about something specific, then please do so. What I am not is a mind reader. Point out my mistakes, and I will be glad to correct them.


P.S. Maybe you would like to make a bet from the safety of your weird sort of "anonymity" of importance in some hitherto unknown world. I bet that the girlfriend has more balls.

What's your point, OneHit? That your daily grind is somehow better, or less pitiful, than mickey's? State your point.

I'm not anonymous, as I've said gazillion times. R.E. Dietz is my name. State your wager. Unlike some other ventures, whether handicappers win is pretty much in black and white. It's possible, I suppose, to publicly have a great record and lose your ass because you're a degenerate betting other things, but if you find someone who knows I've "bet other things," I'll write you a check and an apology. That's why my video poker playing (roughly 40 hours per year) is about 80% quarters on senior days. That's why I've bet zero college basketball games and zero NBA games in the last 20 years, not counting futures hedges. More than ninety percent of my wagering volume takes place in the 100 days of the college football regular season.

State your wager.

[kewlJ]

OneHit, if you're anti-gambling, say so.

I'll say so. OneHit, like Alan and several others are anti-AP or anti-gambling or however you want to phrase it. I don't know what "bug" these people have up their ass, but this is like the twilight zone, with all these deniers.

I'm not anonymous, as I've said gazillion times. R.E. Dietz is my name.

Yeah, but you didn't provide, ID, birth certificate, DNA test, yearbook photos, so these goofy 'twi-light zone' conspirators, keep going. These kind will never be satisfied.

[jbjb]

People the caliber of Grosjean are working on new ways to beat games or are out in casinos playing and crushing them. They don't give a shit about what some two bit idiot(s) thinks he's doing.

[OneHitWonder]

People the caliber of Grosjean are working on new ways to beat games or are out in casinos playing and crushing them.

Ya, sure he is. Blackjack is how many decades old? With all that "dollar to cents" countermeasures? And Jacobson volunteers with looking after elephants. At least, he claims that is what he is doing, these days.

And you have another important game to fleece, at this very moment, yourself, instead of actually backing up what you say?

They don't give a shit about what some two bit idiot(s) thinks he's doing.

Of course they don't. Did I say that I am concerned about that, or shaking in my boots? Ooh, the big bad counters will get me!

[OneHitWonder]

OneHit, if you're anti-gambling, say so.

I'll say so. OneHit, like Alan and several others are anti-AP or anti-gambling or however you want to phrase it. I don't know what "bug" these people have up their ass, but this is like the twilight zone, with all these deniers.

I'm not anonymous, as I've said gazillion times. R.E. Dietz is my name.

Yeah, but you didn't provide, ID, birth certificate, DNA test, yearbook photos, so these goofy 'twi-light zone' conspirators, keep going. These kind will never be satisfied.

Who cares what you say? You blew any respect I might have had for you with the beat everyone here up stuff. Just another "shit shooter cum cry baby". (Hey, perhaps V will enlighten us with the Latin version of that.)

[OneHitWonder]

People the caliber of Grosjean...

That's actually pretty funny. Lol.

[OneHitWonder]

OneHit, if you're anti-gambling, say so. People can try to discredit you. If you're a recreational, lose-my-ass dude, say so and let people come after you. If you're a failed AP, say so. All you're doing is pontificating from some safe place, and it's not even data-driven pontificating. Why not tell everybody what you did yesterday, so maybe someone can say, "Well, that was a truly pitiful way to spend 24 hours?"

Red, if you want to argue about something specific, then please do so. What I am not is a mind reader. Point out my mistakes, and I will be glad to correct them.


P.S. Maybe you would like to make a bet from the safety of your weird sort of "anonymity" of importance in some hitherto unknown world. I bet that the girlfriend has more balls.

What's your point, OneHit? That your daily grind is somehow better, or less pitiful, than mickey's? State your point.

I'm not anonymous, as I've said gazillion times. R.E. Dietz is my name. State your wager. Unlike some other ventures, whether handicappers win is pretty much in black and white. It's possible, I suppose, to publicly have a great record and lose your ass because you're a degenerate betting other things, but if you find someone who knows I've "bet other things," I'll write you a check and an apology. That's why my video poker playing (roughly 40 hours per year) is about 80% quarters on senior days. That's why I've bet zero college basketball games and zero NBA games in the last 20 years, not counting futures hedges. More than ninety percent of my wagering volume takes place in the 100 days of the college football regular season.

State your wager.

I bet that you can't post something without an ad or speech in it. Nothing burgers?

[OneHitWonder]

You are getting to be like Alan. Just because YOU are not familiar with something does not mean it does not exist.

Perhaps, but what does that have to do with keeping your cool on a message board, and looking like you have a clue about what YOU speak?

[kewlJ]

You blew any respect I might have had for you with the beat everyone here up stuff.

I think I will survive without your respect.

Just another "shit shooter cum cry baby".

Classy! One thing most of you "trollers" have in common is a complete lack of class. I suspect that is not how your parents brought you up. You disrespect them by acting like this.

For all his faults...and there are MANY, I give Alan credit in that he doesn't take that low road that the rest of you "trollers" do.

[coach belly]

One thing most of you "trollers" have in common is a complete lack of class.

What a piece of shit you are. Rot in hell, asshole.

Fuck you asshole. Die already!

Fuck you. Get back to the 10 year old boy you are molesting, you fucking asshole.

I give Alan credit in that he doesn't take that low road that the rest of you "trollers" do.

[redietz]

See, we give OneHit a little room (on another thread), and he reveals himself. He had been trying to figure out what the casinos would do to him next and was also learning Spanish from a beautiful woman in South America. So we have a someone who has had casinos do things to him. Naturally, OneHit, being a very bright individual (hey, just read his posts, they ooze bright) has come to the conclusion that the people who were able to do things to casinos, as opposed to have casinos do things to them, were either (A) making stuff up or (B) wasting their hours and energy on something beneath the purview of useful human beings.

Not an uncommon theme. So common, it deserves its own slang -- maybe "Philosopher Loser" or "Philo-Sore-Loser" or "Winner in Life," the latter taken from the recently fired coach of the Tennessee Volunteers.

[jbjb]

People the caliber of Grosjean are working on new ways to beat games or are out in casinos playing and crushing them.

Ya, sure he is. Blackjack is how many decades old? With all that "dollar to cents" countermeasures? And Jacobson volunteers with looking after elephants. At least, he claims that is what he is doing, these days.

And you have another important game to fleece, at this very moment, yourself, instead of actually backing up what you say?

They don't give a shit about what some two bit idiot(s) thinks he's doing.

Of course they don't. Did I say that I am concerned about that, or shaking in my boots? Ooh, the big bad counters will get me!

You really think he's out there card counting blackjack??? Excuse me while I LMMFAO!!!!!!!

[kewlJ]

You are such a douche bag, coach belly. You really are! Yeah you live for these "gotch ya" moments. I guess that is the extent of your participation here, because you never post anything useful or beneficial to anyone. Just play your games.

For the record, I never said that I was without blame. One of my big weaknesses is that I allow you trolls to provoke me and sometimes respond in ways that I am not later, proud of.

[coach belly]

you never post anything useful or beneficial to anyone.

It's useful to point out your hypocrisy, it serves to invalidate everything else that you post.

can't engage in civil discussion or more than 5 minutes without name calling. What a classy guy and such an asset to this forum.

you fucktard.

You are such a douche bag

[coach belly]

I allow you trolls to provoke me and sometimes respond in ways that I am not later, proud of.

Sometimes?

You've posted more insults than any other member here...by far.

I'll bet you top the VCT leader board in name-calling both by volume and by percentage.

There can't be too much left after that to be proud of...and you call for others to be banned?

[Biloxi Bill]

It's useful to point out your hypocrisy, it serves to invalidate everything else that you post.

you fucktard.

You are such a douche bag

Here we have the perfect example of a pussy with no life and way too much time on her hands

[mickeycrimm]

What we don't know is how stupid you are.

If I'm stupid I'm just run of the mill stupid. You are extroardinarily stupid. Here's the equation:

Stupid X 29 = onehitwonder.

[OneHitWonder]

You blew any respect I might have had for you with the beat everyone here up stuff.

I think I will survive without your respect.

Just another "shit shooter cum cry baby".

Classy! One thing most of you "trollers" have in common is a complete lack of class. I suspect that is not how your parents brought you up. You disrespect them by acting like this.

For all his faults...and there are MANY, I give Alan credit in that he doesn't take that low road that the rest of you "trollers" do.

The classic AP maneuver: dig yourself in deeper.

Why would I care that you survive, let alone thrive?

You were going to beat everyone up, remember, and then said you made it all up? Some crazed lunatic with a heart by-pass. I've never seen anyone do that on any forum, gambling or other. What is that if not a shit shooter cum cry baby? Do you tell others to shoot the shit, like Axel in the thread with the newcomer?