Bob Dietz' Coming Appeararance On PokerFraudAlert Radio

[mickeycrimm]

Well, it's nice to just invent stories, which is what Axelwolf is now doing. Let's try, rather than speculation-without-facts, an actual true event.

Who do you think was the first to take USA Today to task in 1982 (the first year it began publishing) when they ran a full page of ad blocks devoted to services with claims of 82-9 ATS and 108-13 ATS and so on? The ads were running every Friday in every edition.

That would be me, the inimitable founder of something called Integrity Sports, which is corny, of course, but that was kind of the point. That name, attached to my face, made me the most obvious target if I fudged one number, which I never, ever did. I called USA Today directly (no internet in those days) and wrote to them to let them know they were off the factual wagon with what they were allowing as ads. I told them what real numbers would look like, and that what they were allowing was asinine.

Now what will the all-knowing Axelwolf's response be to this pithy history lesson? Axelwolf has no actual information, just surmises based on a lifetime of hanging out with scumbags and gambling addicts. Why speculate when you actually know nothing?

If anyone is an expert on competing against liars and cheats and bullshitters, it would probably be the guy who never fudged a number and ran something called Integrity Sports. I got so much grief for that name (because it is kind of stupid), but people quickly understood what I was about and how I did things. It's why I was invited into the Wise Guys and why I was invited to be in Who's Who in Sports Gambling in 1984. It's probably why magazines like The Humanist vetted me and published me and why I was vetted to present a paper at the National Conference on Gambling and Risk-Taking. My reputation in this business has always been absolutely pristine. Otherwise I wouldn't have lived up to the stupid-or-not name.

P.S. My superior half loved the name, by the way. I think she may have been the only one.

So, since you are the, ahem, honest tout, I'm sure you wouldn't mind providing corroborating evidence that you took USA to task on their sports betting advertising. Or are we supposed to just take a tout for his word?

As I said in the first ad I ran in GamePlan magazine (which I still have the ad mock-up for -- found it today in a box), I'll take a polygraph on any of this. Just bet me the cost of the polygraph operator and have the balls to be in the room with me and the operator so I can film it.

There's a reason polygraph results are not allowed as evidence in courts of law.

[kewlJ]

Does anyone on this forum know Billy Walters? Even as just a very casual acquaintance? I would love to hear someone ask Walters if he knows of Bob Dietz and what he thinks of him?

And redietz: I am sorry this has come to this. I almost feel bad for you. And remember, I didn't (and still don't really) have a problem with you, until you started all the Leonardo de AP shit about me and other AP's simply because we were doing something at an advantage involving sports betting.

[mickeycrimm]

What I’m pointing out is that, in this configuration, the tout has to hit 55% for the investor to break even.

And when old investors wash out from losing….the continuous advertising brings in new investors. Rinse and repeat. And keep rinsing and repeating.

Would Integrity Sports survive by offering investors a configuration whereby their profitable total wager results in break even, or a net loss, due to commissions paid to the advisor?

Surely his tenured group of MENSA investors would not continue to participate in that sort of arrangement...right?

The tout preys on the ignorance of new investors. One would think that sooner or later the tout would run out of suckers....but as P.T. Barnum said, there's a sucker born every minute.

[coach belly]

I merely know of Redietz from studying old handicapper records.

redietz mentioned you so that you could share Typsters or Gypsters pages from your collection.

He just did belly.

No he didn't...what is wrong with you?

Red brought his name up so that he could share pages from his Typsters & Gypsters collection on this forum, like mickey did.

Kim's multiple assumptions, assertions, fabrications, etc don't qualify...now he can just show us the pages if he has them.

If not, then he can go back to the sock-puppet purgatory that you conjured him up from.

[kewlJ]

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If not, then he can go back to the sock-puppet purgatory that you conjured him up from.

Yeah, I figured the play would be to try to discredit Kim Lee. Good luck with that. He is a well rounded advantage player that has been around way longer than I have. I am sure some of these guys that have been around a while know and can vouch for him.

I simply made him aware of this discussion and that redietz had mentioned him, twice. It was good to catch up with him a little bit privately and see him post his expertise here again though. I guess I should thank redietz for that.

[coach belly]

So he should lead by example and show proof.

red has shown some corroborating evidence...he's the forum leader in that regard.

Now you are asking for more proof, without showing any proof of your own.

What's up with that?

[coach belly]

He is a well rounded advantage player

He's a sock puppet until proven otherwise.

Posting up some pages from his collection would be a start.

But if he can't be bothered, then his legacy around here is a bunch of nonsense posts from 2018, and 2 nonsense posts today....nothing to take seriously.

[kewlJ]

He is a well rounded advantage player

He's a sock puppet until proven otherwise.

Posting up some pages from his collection would be a start.

But if he can't be bothered, then his legacy around here is a bunch of nonsense posts from 2018, and 2 nonsense posts today....nothing to take seriously.

He DID prove otherwise, you fucking retard. Kim Lee has a collection of tipsters/gyspsters dating back to the 80's. So he was interested in this shit back then. Depending on just what year in the 80's we are talking, I might not have even been born yet.

I know him from Wong's BJ21. I think he was there a decade before I ever showed up. Like when I was still in high school.

So how the fuck can he be a sock puppet of me, you fucking imbecilic?

[coach belly]

He DID prove otherwise, you fucking retard. Kim Lee has a collection of tipsters/gyspsters dating back to the 80's.

What did he prove?

He hasn't shown evidence of of any collection, hasn't posted any pages, and he hasn't even claimed that he has any collection from what I've read.

I went back through his entire posting history, and he never mentions Typsters or Gypsters, so what are you talking about?

Post a quote if I'm mistaken.

But if you/he are claiming that he has a collection, then what....should he post photos like mickey did, or should we just take your/his word for it?

He doesn't have much of a posting history here, and you conjured him up this week after a long absence, and minimal erratic posts since he joined.

That's a sock-puppet red flag right there.

[MisterV]

He doesn't have much of a posting history here, and you conjured him up this week after a long absence, and minimal erratic posts since he joined. That's a sock-puppet red flag right there.

Oh ye of little faith.

You want to know if he's KJ's sock, do ya?

Ask Dan Druff...he can sniff this shit out.

[AxelWolf]

it does seem strange you cant just answer some simple questions

Yes...strange, isn't he?

He either ignores simple questions, or his answer requires a ditz-English dictionary to decipher.

[mickeycrimm]

So he should lead by example and show proof.

red has shown some corroborating evidence...he's the forum leader in that regard.

Now you are asking for more proof, without showing any proof of your own.

What's up with that?

Red has seriously and continually demanded proof on everything. I have demanded proof a few times as a spoof of redietz. But I did get a big laugh out of redietz’, first, offering a polygraph as evidence, second, with the condition that I take time out of my life to travel to some unknown location to watch him take it. Still laughing at how redietz throws up roadblocks on everything. He’ll put up proof if someone travels 2000 miles to watch it. ROTFLMAO!

[mickeycrimm]

He is a well rounded advantage player

He's a sock puppet until proven otherwise.

Posting up some pages from his collection would be a start.

But if he can't be bothered, then his legacy around here is a bunch of nonsense posts from 2018, and 2 nonsense posts today....nothing to take seriously.

Redietz can also post pics of everything he sent to Alan.

[MDawg]

the lying queer J

It never ends with this guy.
He posts one thing today and a week later tells everyone he was lying.
And does it how many times now?
GTFOH... Spiderman!

kewlJ has also been caught in a lot of lies over time, both on this forum and elsewhere. Therefore, it is unclear if he really makes much (or anything) playing blackjack these days.

kewlJ is basically the Boy Who Cried Wolf of these AP forums. He has lied so many times that it's impossible to believe any stories he tells.

[MDawg]

He's a sock puppet until proven otherwise.

Always the same UNKewl pattern:

1. Post some nonsense.

2. Is challenged.

3. Fictionalizes about someone or other who
-wrote to him about it
-consulted with him about it
-did the same play
-is aware that UNKewlJ did whatever it is UNKewlJ is claiming he did
-was seen doing the same play.

It's never enough that he did something, he has to also create some lies surrounding corroboration (that always center around unnamed, unknown, never to be revealed players in his fable).

There is a clear trend that has developed now. All of KewlJ's implied associates are turning out to be other invented characters in his years of lies. ...RIP

[jdaewoo]

Why isn't this retard out winning 80% of his tie bets?

[kewlJ]

Why isn't this retard out winning 80% of his tie bets?

Dawgs latest claim is even better. He claims to bets the 6 at odds of 22-1 or 50-1 and hit at between 20-40% of the time.

The more this person posts, the more he sounds like a ploppie/deg gambler. And the more the royal treatment from casinos makes sense. Casinos love a losing ploppie/deg gambler type.

[MisterV]

If a man wants to piss away his and his family's money in a casino then so be it, who are we to judge?

I mean we've all done stupid shit with money, in fact a lot of the things people use their money for can be as stupid as blowing huge sums in a casino over a life time.

Hey, if he likes it, and can afford to lose massive sums then bravo, but just one thing, hound: don't try to lie about it: don't try to convince us that your tales of casino derring-do are true.

Just tell the truth: it will elicit a mix of commiseration and schadenfreude from we, the little people.

The truth might even set you free.

[MDawg]

KJ and others here are going to their graves muttering unintelligibly about the Dawg.

[jdaewoo]

Why isn't this retard out hitting 80% of his tie bets?